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February 2024



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source ↗. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources ↗ and take this opportunity to add references to the article. ''Please stop. You need to find sources.''<!-- Template:uw-unsourced2 --> <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 15:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:of all the people who create pages with wars in Kazakhstan, I know only one person. We don't have any more people. All we can do is quote. Please stop. Онеми (talk) 15:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

::I am happy to help you create properly sourced articles. Do not restore unsourced material per WP:BURDEN ↗ and WP:V ↗. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 15:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I am very grateful, know. I don't have time to do this. Онеми (talk) 15:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
::::If you do not have time to learn how to and properly source material, then you do not have time to edit articles. This is not Russian wikipedia, sourcing requirements on English Wikipedia are different and you need to follow these guidelines and policy. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 16:29, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::хорошо, я успокоюсь. Онеми (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Okay, I'll calm down. Онеми (talk) 16:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Here are some resources every editor on Wikipedia should understand with regard to sourcing and adding content. Please read: WP:OR ↗, WP:SYNTH ↗, '''WP:V ↗''' (note this is a policy not a guideline), WP:CITE ↗, WP:IS ↗, WP:RS ↗, '''WP:BURDEN ↗'''. You can ask questions here or at the WP:TEAHOUSE ↗. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 16:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Your report on me has been rejected, what are you going to do next? If I don't restore it, someone else will. You don't know the history of Kazakhstan, but you're being smart Онеми (talk) 15:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::and yes, the third message about the battles and other clashes of the Kazakhs. Онеми (talk) 15:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::You need to read WP:LISTCRITERIA ↗. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 14:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024 (2)


25px|alt=|link= ↗ Please stop your disruptive editing ↗.
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at :List of wars involving Kazakhstan ↗, you may be blocked from editing ↗. ''As has been discussed before, you cannot add material that does not meet the article WP:LISTCRITERIA ↗. If you do not understand this guideline you can ask for help at the WP:TEAHOUSE ↗

Changes to the article title and lade need to be discussed and find WP:CONSENSUS ↗ '''BEFORE''' being made.''<!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 14:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

:if I rename the article to "wars and battles of Kazakhstan" will you stop interfering with the development of the Kazakh fandom? Онеми (talk) 14:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::Wikipedia requires you to find WP:CONSENSUS ↗ before making this change. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 14:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Of all the people who edit, it's me and you. Okay, one more person.
:::There are only three of us. That man is my friend. He will obviously agree with me. Then you can already change. I don't see the point in looking for all those who have ever edited an article. Онеми (talk) 14:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Getting your friends to support you is called WP:CANVASSING ↗. It is against Wikipedia guidelines. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 14:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::I'm not forcing him to support me. He will want it himself, by he started editing before me. I am sure that he will support me. Онеми (talk) 14:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Do you ever read any of the guidelines I post for you? <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 14:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Don't worry, I'm reading them. Онеми (talk) 15:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Problem continues



I will be as clear as possible: Information you add to English Wikipedia needs to:

The list criteria is very clear: "The following is a topical outline of '''English Wikipedia articles''' about '''Kazak''' military history." You need to provide verifiable ↗ reliable sources ↗ showing the content meets list criteria ↗. Being part of an empire '''does not''' mean the Kazaks were automatically involved in every conflict that empire was involved in. You need to provide sources showing Kazaks were involved and that information needs to be verifiable per WP:V ↗.

If you think I am wrong and intended to continue this problem, post to WP:ANI ↗ and explain the situation. Otherwise stop. <span style="font-family:Courier;"><b>&nbsp;//&nbsp;Timothy&nbsp;::&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</b></span> 05:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, it is not indicated where the Kazakhs are involved in conflicts, especially in early history. Онеми (talk) 05:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Vandal



Hy Mate, please don't Vandalize the Article of Siege of Moscow (1382) As A Source is Mentioned. Basically your Point is How Timur Participated If he was Enemy of Tokhtyamish. Thats not the Full Story, Timur was First Ally of Tokhtaymish & he even Supported him in the War of Succession, he even Helped & Participated in Siege of Moscow. Later A Dispute Happened which Cause Rivalry Between Golden Horde & Timur. This All is Stated in the Articles of Tokhtymish & Timur DeepstoneV (talk) 05:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

An attempt at clarification of some points


:From reading the above messages, it seems that you have not understood a few essential points about editing Wikipedia, so here are a few pointers to help you understand.
# Your question "will you stop interfering with the development of the Kazakh fandom?" suggests a significant misunderstanding of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a fan site, and unlike fan sites requires content to be supported by reliable and verifiable evidence, not just by the fact that some "fan" wants it there.
# You have repeatedly posted material to articles without any sources indicating that it belongs there. For example, you have added into Outline of Kazak military history ↗ links to other articles, where neither do those other articles mention any Kazak involvement, nor have you provided any evidence of Kazak involvement. That is not how Wikipedia works: content of articles must be supported by references to verifiable sources. The unsubstantiated say-so of just someone who has chosen to create a Wikipedia account is not sufficient grounds for inclusion.
# You have said "Unfortunately, it is not indicated where the Kazakhs are involved in conflicts, especially in early history". In that case, very simply, we must not include statements that they were involved. Whatever may be suitable for fan sites, on Wikipedia if we don't know whether something happened or not then we don't say that it did, and we don't say that it didn't. We don't just post our guess that it did.
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# Almost all of us, when we start editing Wikipedia, know little or nothing about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so nobody can be blamed for starting out doing things that are contrary to policies and guidelines that they don't know about. However, continuing to do the same things '''after''' being told about the relevant policies and guidelines is a different matter. Editors who continue to edit contrary to Wikipedia's standards after warnings are likely to be blocked from editing by administrators. I have taken some time and trouble to write this message, in the hope that it will help you to avoid being blocked from editing. Please read it carefully, think carefully about what it says, and try to follow my advice. I would find it disappointing if it turned out that my time and efforts have been wasted, so that you continue in the same way and are blocked. Please make sure that doesn't happen. JBW (talk) 22:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve Battle of Talki



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Hi, can you avoid the date in the titles if there isn't another article of the same name and categorize with dates like this ↗? Thanks! ♦ <span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span> 13:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, yeah good. Онеми (talk) 13:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Battle beyond the Volga (1513) ↗ moved to draftspace



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Kalmyk campaign of Yesim Khan (1626–1627) ↗ moved to draftspace



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Where did the articles go?



Why were some of my articles deleted without my knowledge? Онеми (talk) 14:11, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :Battle of Tashkent (1603) ↗ for deletion


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Hello Onemi, you have recently vandalized my page Draft:Kazakh–Oirat Wars ↗, which you falsified it yourself with adding a topic from the Kazakh–Kalmyk wars, not a single time but multiple times leading to getting it drafted again — Which was in a normal state which the tiering was C, before you disrupted it. If you edit this falsely i will take proper actions and i will report it to Wikipedia. &#45; The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 07:50, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

:Hello. I am writing to you as someone well-versed in the subject matter. Your edits are unclear to me, as you seem to be operating with inaccurate or fabricated dates. Please explain what relation the scattered events between 1564 and 1604 have to the "Kazakh-Oirat War"?
:​I am trying to adhere to the established communication norms of Wikipedia. Firstly, I did not vandalize the article; I merely edited it. I do not understand your desire to artificially combine all Kazakh and Oirat conflicts from different centuries into a single "war." If they are to be considered collectively, the correct title would be "Kazakh-Oirat Wars," and then it would need to include the conflicts of the 17th century, for example, those of 1616–1628.
:Regarding terminology: I use the term "Kalmyks" following authoritative historians such as Atygayev, understanding that they are the same Oirats. To maintain the Authoritative Sources (AS), I write it this way, but for readers, I can provide an explanation or use the term "Oirats" in parallel—the essence does not change. All my edits are strictly based on authoritative sources, and for every disputed point, I am prepared to provide not just one, but several (3-4) references.
:Now, to the point:
:Your version of the article about the First Kazakh-Dzungar War contains factual errors. Modern historians distinguish a Second War in the period of 1643–1647. To confirm this, you can check my edits and the sources cited there in the corresponding Russian Wikipedia article (ru ↗).
:The information about the Erdeni Batur campaign (1640–1646) is also incorrect. No major military actions in this context were recorded in 1640. The campaign that you write about as the second one actually took place in 1645–1646. Yes, it resulted in an Oirat victory, but the chronology in the article is distorted.
:​I ask the administration (@AirshipJungleman29) to take note of your actions. It creates the impression that you do not possess a sufficient level of expertise on the topic and are making edits based on random and unverified data.
:Regarding your threats to file a complaint—you are welcome to do so. I am prepared to explain every single one of my edits in detail and provide authoritative sources for every one of my assertions. Онеми (talk) 11:25, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
::@AirshipJungleman29, I would be glad to hear your opinion. Онеми (talk) 11:35, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
::The conflict of "Kazakh Oirat wars" is not a single continuous but a series of raids and invasions primarily between the Oirats ↗ and Kazakhs ↗. According to E. Remileva's work of ""OIRAT-MONGOLS" REVIEW OF THE HISTORY OF THE EUROPEAN KALMYKS" and "Kazakh Khanate: Essays on Foreign Policy History of the 15th-17th Centuries" It's by the Kazakh Khanate ↗ and the Oirat Confederatio ↗<nowiki/>n, not the later successors such as the Dzungar Khanate ↗ and the Kalmyk Khanate ↗. From the later migration of Dorbets ↗ and Torghuts ↗ to Volga ↗ should be cosnidered by your edit on the page, which has the Kazakh-Kalmyk war.
::As well regarding your edit, your claim of merely editing is false, not only you have failed correctly use linking but most of the sentencing lacks any citations or any secondary sources whilst i also included secondary and other tertiary sources to support them — no wonder a C tier class suddenly got drafted.
::Now for First Kazakh-Dzungar War ↗, no there are sources that claim it was a campaign that occurred during 1640 to 1646 which is Audrey Burton's work, The Bukharans A Dynastic, Diplomatic and Commercial History 1550-1702. Russian and sources of other languages: "''Материалы по истории русско-монгольских отношений. 1636–1654. Том II'' [''Materials on the History of Russian-Mongolian Relations. 1636–1654. Volume II''] (in Russian). Москва: Издательство Академии наук СССР. 1959.", "Zlatkin, I. Ya. (1964). ''История Джунгарского ханства (1635–1758)'' [''History of the Dzungar Khanate (1635–1758)''] (in Russian). Москва: Наука.", "Левшин, А. И. (1832). ''Описание киргиз-казачьих или киргиз-кайсацких орд и степей. Том II'' [''Description of the Kirghiz-Kazakh or Kirghiz-Kaisak Hordes and Steppes. Volume II''] (in Russian). Санкт-Петербург.", "Чулошников, А. П. (1924). ''Очерки по истории казах-киргизского народа в связи с общими историческими судьбами других тюркских племен'' [''Essays on the History of the Kazakh-Kirghiz People in Connection with the General Historical Fate of Other Turkic Tribes''] (in Russian). Оренбург." and etc. It is not a distortion, but rather a fact from the sources i have found used. As well your own page on the Russian Wikipedia was recently created just to counter my article. It does not have any paragraphs or such, at least put some sentences with citations, i can see the view history of the page. If you have any inquiries, feel free to add me on telegram (@horseofwikipedia) or discord (mchemionus) if you would like any screenshots or any books. &#45; The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 11:55, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
:::Morever about your page, it only has headings and 2 citations of Байпаков, Козыбаев, Кумеков, Пищулина (1997) and Галиев (1998) twice, your claim of claim of “detailed sourced work” is not supported. &#45; The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 12:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
::::While i do see your points of Atygayev, please go further in depth as i did on the article and on other pages. Also as i said before, use secondary and/or tertiary sources to support it even further. I suggest you create a draft about the specific Kazakh-Kalmyk War, not the whole war. &#45; The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 12:04, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

"Vandalism" with an article about Mongolia



You've deleted a huge amount of information from the "List of Wars Involving Mongolia." Why did you do that?! Why did you delete so much information, which everyone worked so hard to add and keep adding more and more wars and battles? And you, without appreciating the effort, carelessly and brazenly deleted 75% of all the information. AbdyHistorLike (talk) 02:31, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

:I find the reasons for deleting 75% of all edits and additions completely strange and incorrect. You also deleted the wars between states associated with the Mongol states—the Oirats, Dzungars, Khoshuts, Kalmyks, Rouran, Khitans—and the general wars of the Genghis Khan Empire and its Uluses. AbdyHistorLike (talk) 02:36, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
::If any of you can do this, then the same can be done to you - by deleting everything connected with the Kazakh Khanate, for example (after all, 100% of all your articles are connected with the Kazakh Khanate) "also" "despite your efforts." AbdyHistorLike (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
::::Greetings, AbdyHistorLike.
::::That is a factually incorrect assertion, with an untenable premise.
::::Cordially, Augmented Seventh (talk) 07:11, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
:::But a normal person who respects the history of all nations would not have acted the way you did with this article. I consider this discrimination against Mongolia and its history. AbdyHistorLike (talk) 02:42, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
::::Hello! That is a good question. The issue is that this list included not only the history of the Khalkha Mongols (modern-day Mongolia) but also that of the Dzungars and Kalmyks (collectively Oirats), who are not Khalkha Mongols. The list also features other states and tribes from the years 1000–1200 that are similarly unrelated to the history of Mongolia; to confirm a connection, an authoritative source must be provided that identifies Mongolia as the successor to these entities. Furthermore, states such as the Golden Horde, the Ilkhanate, and the Timurid Empire have no relation to the Khalkha Mongols, and historians do not write about such succession at all (if I am wrong, please provide sources that name the Khalkha Mongols as a successor to these states). Regarding my removal of the Mongol Empire, the Yuan Dynasty, and the Northern Yuan: in those cases, every minor battle and event was stretched to the maximum; if a book contained even a single mention, it was immediately placed in a separate column, whereas the list of wars should only include actual wars. As for the suggestion that the list of Kazakhstan's wars would be treated differently: you might be surprised to see, if you scroll back through 200+ edits, that material on Kazakh battles, campaigns, and wars was also removed, including the Golden Horde, the Kipchaks, and the Turkic Khaganate. This occurred not only with the list of wars for Kazakhstan but also for Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. Онеми (talk) 05:48, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
:::::This article "could have been" concerning not only the Khalkha Mongols, but also other related to the Eastern Mongols; just as the Oirats are Western Mongols, while the Khalkha are Eastern Mongols; they could have at least been left in (also the history of the wars of the ancient ancestors of the nomadic peoples and the Rouran or Khitan); but otherwise, I agree with your answer to my question—"This is my opinion on your answer." AbdyHistorLike (talk) 06:01, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hello @AbdyHistorLike and @Augmented Seventh. I strongly oppose the addition of other pro-Mongol states, such as the Dzungar and Kalmyk Khanates, to the history of Mongolia's wars. If we follow the logic of their Mongol origin, we would also have to include the wars of the Kazakh, Bukhara, Kokand, Khiva, Crimean, and Astrakhan Khanates, as well as the Great Horde, since they were ruled by the descendants of Genghis Khan and included Turkicized Mongol tribes. Even in modern Kazakhstan, we are divided into three juzes (Senior, Middle, and Junior), each consisting of tribes with different origins (for example, I am a Kipchak); although Kipchaks are also part of the Nogai Horde and the Crimean Khanate, we do not add the conflicts of those states to the list of Kazakhstan’s wars. Furthermore, according to research by Zh. Sabitov, some tribes of the Budjak Horde and the Crimean Khanate moved into the Junior and Middle juzes, and according to A. Karataev, the Alshyn and Uisun tribes joined the Kazakhs from the Nogai Horde after the fall of the Great Horde, which proves that the migration of individual tribes is not a reason to merge the histories of different states. Онеми (talk) 07:24, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
:::::::At a cursory glance, this region would seem to require separate articles with which to differentiate between the historical peoples now grouped under the current geographic national boundaries.
:::::::Luckily, editors of goodwill can find a compromise. Augmented Seventh (talk) 07:34, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

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Vandalism



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Please do not remove content or templates ↗ from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at :List of wars involving the Kazakhs ↗, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary ↗. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted ↗. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 --> — The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 01:21, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

:Are you out of line? To be honest, I feel ashamed to keep writing to @AirshipJungleman29 all the time about your activities. @Rosguill, do you see what his unblocking has led to? He is literally accusing me of vandalism when he is the one vandalizing: I provided sources and explicitly pointed out that on page 160 of his own source, it clearly states that the Kalmyks (Oirats) were under the authority of Tevekkul Khan. Furthermore, I have Russian primary sources where Tevekkul Khan is referred to as the "Kalmyk Khan" (meaning Oirat, as they were called Kalmyks in Russian sources). Next, he deletes the Kazakh-Oirat conflicts of 1530–1627, changing the dates to suit his needs. I have told him more than once that the historian Atygaev refers to Oirats as Kalmyks and that the conflicts of the 1620s, where the Kazakhs were victorious, are a continuation of those earlier conflicts. Do you understand what kind of editor he is? He is an outright vandal and a falsifier of history. @Rosguill, I’ll be honest: since my very first message, he has done nothing but ignore me. Nothing has changed: he has moved from inventing battles to inventing entire wars. Ask him personally why he mentioned the war of 1635–1658 as a Dzungar victory when the source he uses (Atygaev) states that the Kazakhs drove the Dzungars out of Zhetysu? At the same time, he cannot even provide sources for the chronology of this war. Note that two months have already passed, and during this time he hasn't been able to provide even a single author who writes about a "1635–1658" war. He ignores my texts regarding his "1681–1686" war. @Rosguill, ask him again why he ignores Tauke Khan’s 1688 campaign, which resulted in the Kazakhs driving out the Dzungars and defeating them, as well as the subsequent invasions of 1689? This is all documented. He cannot provide sources for his "1698–1703" and "1708–1718" wars, but he "understands and, as usual, promises not to let this happen again." Is this not just another serving of "noodles" he's trying to hang on our ears? Онеми (talk) 10:31, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
::I have given him a final warning for ownership and asked him to use talk pages. I have not had time to look at his recent contributions in detail, but it is clear he is edit warring to force his preferred narrative into mainspace. When I get time I will see if this needs an immediate ANI section. &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
::This is not about "falsification of history", it's your own behavior. Saying " Enough" and randomly removing a large sect is Vandalism. This is not edit warring, this is a mere revert of a huge disruptive edit. I will continue about my "falsification of history" later. — The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 11:47, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
:::{{u|Онеми}}, the prior block was for reasons totally orthogonal to the issues you are currently having with the editor in question (it was primarily for copyright violation), so it's not fair to hold that prior block and the unblock against them or anyone else in this process. That having been said, {{u|HorseBro the hemionus}}, I agree with the rebuke that AirshipJungleman29 already gave you, and would not hesitate to reblock you if you continue in this manner. Онеми's edits do not appear to be vandalism in the slightest, and accusing them of such without proper evidence is a personal attack ↗. You need to engage with their objections to your additions on the relevant article talk page. <sub>signed, </sub>'''''Rosguill''''' <sup>''talk''</sup> 14:55, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
::::I see, well I apologize about the personal attack and the vandal warning I have given to the user. — The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals. (talk) 15:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

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{{ping|Онеми}} The link to your own allegation of vandalism ↗ in your biography is incomplete and not very clear. Explain why the biographies of both Amanzholov and Artykbayev do not comply with the principles ↗ or open a new topic on the talk page ↗. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia ↗ and improving my article by adding a contribution to the Kazakh–Dzungar War (1739–1743) ↗ and helping me improve my critical thinking skills. Al-Rakhat, Ibn Abu Muhammad beg (talk) 18:51, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

:I already mentioned in the edit notes that you should read this work link ↗. Pages 60–78 cover everything about them. It specifically states that Amanzholov’s works are 'fantastical and mythical' in nature (page 77). Онеми (talk) 05:40, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

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