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Fix local description
Local description should be "1973-1975 concert tour by The Jackson 5" Thealt3786 (talk) 21:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: The Jackson 5 US Tour ↗ (August 29)
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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: The Jackson 5 Second National Tour ↗ (September 5)
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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: The Jackson 5 Second National Tour ↗ (September 10)
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Hello! I am wondering why you decided to revert my edit which involved the source for the book ''Michael Jackson, the King of Pop: The Big Picture: The Music! The Man! The Legend! The Interviews: An Anthology''. It is a legitimate source and can be used, as it provides valuable information that the article needs. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
:Despite it being a useful source, it is also important to fact check these books. Unfortunately, this book seems to have many errors with tour dates either they were planned and don't actually exist or cancelled overall. I've conducted a deep research on these tour dates a good handful were wrong with inaccurate venues & dates. It most likely they sourced these dates from old itineraries they have. Newspapers are far more reliable, they document the concerts in real time with concert reviews and announcing when it will happen and if it got cancelled. An itinerary is prewritten so it is likely not be always correct. So the book "Michael Jackson, the King of Pop: The Big Picture: The Music! The Man! The Legend! The Interviews: An Anthology." isn't accurate. Yes it may be an official source however you need to shift your focus on accuracy. This book is full of errors. You're better off doing research from newspapers. As for wikipedia standards, we need make sure we are filling articles with reliable sources and to avoid spreading misinformation. Justifying a book isn't gonna cut it and you need to stop harassing other users with it and using it as a defense mechanic for their rightfully sourced concerts they insert. Newspaper archives are helpful in finding more accurate information such as newspapers.com and genealogybank.com that's only to name a few.1Skywriter (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
::I assure you that I am not harassing any user about it, and have only reverted once about it. If you are going to discuss the legitimacy of a book, then WP:RSN ↗ would be the place for that. That was when I found out that a book like ''The Jacksons: Legacy'' was in fact, reliable for concert tours. HorrorLover555 (talk) 00:44, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
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