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The Slim Shady LP

There are '''two different''' "Just Don't Give a Fuck ↗" singles: one for the ''Slim Shady EP ↗'', and one for ''The Slim Shady LP ↗''.

The first single was released as a 12" by Web on December 10, 1997.https://www.discogs.com/release/465401-Eminem-Just-Dont-Give-A-Fck ↗ This features the original version of "Just Don't Give a Fuck" and includes "Low Down, Dirty" and "Just The Two of Us" as b-sides. This is the only single from the ''Slim Shady EP''.

The second single was released as a cassette, CD maxi, and 12" by Aftermath and Interscope on October 13, 1998.https://www.discogs.com/master/12021-Eminem-Just-Dont-Give-A-F ↗ This features an updated version of "Just Don't Give a Fuck" (with a different instrumental and the word "raped" censored) and includes "Brain Damage" as a b-side. This is the first single from ''The Slim Shady LP''.

Jericho735 (talk) 21:54, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

:It's still the same song though, just because there was an update doesn't mean that the overall song changed noteworthily enough to be considered the lead single from the latter release. It's like a remaster of an old song, it's still the same song just with slight differences that aren't noteworthy enough unless specificized otherwise. 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 22:18, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

::A single is not the same thing as a song; singles often include multiple tracks, and the 1998 "Just Don't Give a Fuck" single includes two tracks taken from ''The Slim Shady LP'' (neither of which appear on the ''Slim Shady EP''). They are different singles even if both include different versions of the same song. Jericho735 (talk) 22:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
:::B-sides don't constitute reason to classify them as different singles in the context of an overall album. 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 22:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

I love your username!

I love your username, great editing! 196.191.188.75 ↗ (talk) 16:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

:i appreciate
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Please stop with the dispersive edits and wrongly calling it "clean up". We use the credits to display the songwriters, most rappers don't go by their "rap" name, but by their real name on the credits.

Cheers, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

:every other page is formatted like "written by the artists and the producers" but alright man
:4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 16:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
::When they have the same name in the credits. On top of that, that isn't true at all. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:42, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
:::you deleted our convo to cover up your nonsense so i'm not taking anything you say seriously lol 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 01:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
::::You asked me to do so. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::no i didn't, i said i wouldn't be surprised if you did, because you don't want to look wrong in front of a bunch of people, but carry on 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 13:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::Again? Stick to credits please, you re-worded an article that just passed as a GA a day ago. Stick to the credits given on the liner notes. They are not credit as a duo on the songwriting, just on the performing and even on the sale they are credit as a duo and individually. Ok? Don't believe look the liner notes on google you will be able to find them on pitchfork.
::::::Regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:13, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
:::::::why are you picking and choosing with certain songs to address artists as their real names, EVERY OTHER SONG ON THIS SITE has the credits being simplified, by saying "Mars, Brandon Anderson, etc." it's like you're referring to Brandon Anderson and Anderson .Paak as two different people; they don't need their real name AND stage name stated in the summary section of the article
:::::::stop being a helicopter editor and be open to simplification for once 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 16:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
::::::::It's called credits. Nothing else MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:23, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::"iTs CAlLeD cReDiTS" k 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 17:26, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks. I initially thought it was vandalism, but then self-reverted, as I remembered that there are some very strange song names out there. Cheerio and happy editing!

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Music of the Spheres credits

I just saw the Grammy list and Kang Hyo-Won and Bart Schoudel are missing for the credits. Could you help me find which songs they produced? Thanks. '''GustavoCza''' (talk • contribs ↗) 01:18, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

:Kang Hyo-Won is credited as Pdogg and was the vocal producer on My Universe
:Bart Schoudel was a recording engineer on Let Somebody Go 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 03:07, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

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:the template says "Use dmy dates", but none of the dates are DMY, it is a very pointless template that does not need to be there 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 01:15, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

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I didn't see the number changes; I only saw the initial wording change. Normally I am more observant. '''<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">danny</span><small>music</small><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">editor</span>''' <sup> oops </sup> 21:47, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Stylizations

Don't stylize the artist's names, such as ASAP Rocky and Ty Dolla Sign, the stylized version is only used in their main article and not anywhere else (see MOS:TMSTYLE ↗). TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 15:20, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Rearranging categories

Please don't unnecessarily rearrange categories based on what you deem to be more important https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K-pop_(song)&diff=prev&oldid=1166522462 ↗. Some editors prefer alphabetical order of categories, and that is how I had them. Thank you. <b><span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span><small><span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span></small></b> 05:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Reverting something over thinking they have more of an occupation than anything.

Hi. I appreciate your rewording edits, but if you know that 6lack and Frank Ocean are more singers than rappers, they should say rappers for them, one for Raf and Stay Down. 2601:196:4A01:D770:9508:7C2:73EB:3AA0 ↗ (talk) 05:10, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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:Are you kidding me? I literally spelled it the correct Australian way when it was spelled the American way... I literally did the thing you're saying I didn't do... which is respect another form of English. 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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Do not remove parameters in the infobox just because they're empty

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Question regarding an article

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Because I don't wish to get into another argument with the main user that's been editing this page since 2016, I wanted to ask an admin to prevent further chaos from ensuing.

Previously, I had tried to edit Breanna Yde ↗, I attempted to update the fact that she's not just an American actress, but also an Australian musician. Although a lot of her work has been done in the USA, she's very much an Australian and a musician. Which, even though I sourced, it got removed regardless. I feel like leaving her designation as an "American actress" only is misleading and should be updated.


4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 01:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

:Hi,
:This is a content dispute/issue, which requires no administrative action. The way to handle that is to discuss the matter on the talk page of the article in question. Only if that results in an impasse, you may escalate the matter, but even then it shouldn't hopefully need admins to get involved.
:No one 'owns' or controls an article, and everyone has the same rights (and responsibilities) in editing it. That is true of the "main user" (as you put it), as much as it is of you, and anyone else including any admins.
:Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:12, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
::fair enough, my bad 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 10:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

808s & Heartbreak

Hi,

Can you please add to the genre list on :808s & Heartbreak ↗ *R&B ↗<ref>{{cite web|url=
https://www.uticaod.com/story/news/2008/11/24/album-review-808s-heartbreak-by/46077139007/|title=Album review: '808s & Heartbreak,' by Kanye West|publisher=Observer-Dispatch ↗|last=Varine|first=Patrick|date=November 24, 2008|accessdate=July 15, 2025|quote=An R&B record with almost no harmony? Even T-Pain knows better than that.}}</ref> Thanks in advance. 84.44.18.72 ↗ (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
: Done (kinda, I did Alternative R&B). 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 17:51, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
::You need to add it with a source according to TheAmazingPeanuts 2A00:1D34:8CC2:BF00:6DD9:AD2B:8D0B:D3D5 ↗ (talk) 06:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
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Positions

The Positions (album) ↗ article is not 'official". It's just another wiki page that cannot be used as a cited source for other wiki articles. It says that the main genres are R&B and pop, and goes onto say (also uncited) that it "expands on the trap infused R&B and pop of its predecessors". So it's not even describing Positions, but the albums prior to it. This does not justify the main Ariana Grande ↗ article completely dropping R&B from its description to become just "trap infused". Either way, a source that unequivocally describes the album as "trap infused" is needed. <span style="color: green;">Escape Orbit</span> <sup>(Talk) ↗</sup> 23:11, 14 April 2026 (UTC)