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Muthuraja



I am having to revert you edits at Muthuraja ↗. The quotes you provide do not seem to support the statements and, worse, it is clear that you are using very selective search phrases via Google Books etc. That practice leads to confirmation bias ↗ and is not acceptable, sorry. I also think you are actually misreading the article because it looks like what you are trying to prove is that the community are of Telugu origin rather than Tamil but in fact the article says they are mostly Tamil ''speaking'', which is not the same thing as a statement as to their origin. - Sitush (talk) 07:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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Muthuraja never called Valaiyar so please avoid Muthuraja page unwanted edit.Madraskalai (talk) 08:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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have seen the article and It says "communities in the Andhra-Telangana region, community in recent years has been influenced by Hindutva ideology and have been more assertive against Dalits". This statement is super personal and cannot be generalized into one community or class. There hasn't been been one particular statement proving this in the recent history and it should be the subject of high risk for other users who read this article. Hence I request you to please check and possibly edit/remove this and sorry to say this but do not make a personal obligation without knowing what it means to the society. Thank you. Vishalsanga99 (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you sir--Almighty34 (talk) 08:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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i'm sorry i will change--Almighty34 (talk) 07:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Shivappa Nayaka



Hello, I’ve noticed you have added Shivappa Nayaka as balija king, but the source youve referenced clearly states it was during Bhadrappa Nayaka’s time that power came to banajigas. Please remove Shivappa nayaka from list of Balija rulers in Balija page. Thank you. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.277202/page/n55/mode/2up

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thank you for your earlier correction of shivappa nayaka. In Balija page you have mentioned channapatna rayas “who ruled Bangalore”. Please remove this reference to bangalore. Channapatna raya ruled channapatna, and not Bangalore which was ruled by their contemporaries Yelahanka nadaprabhus. Thank you
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I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish at Gavara ↗, but in most cases, an article's reference section shouldn't be 4x longer than the article itself. <b>OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span> <sup>Talk</sup></b> 13:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I assure you that I will not repeat the mistake in the future. thank you sir for your guidance.--Almighty34 (talk) 14:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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I think I can agree what you said about Mukundadeva. I do not see anywhere in the referenced inscription where it says that Balijas have lived in Orugallu. You said, "Balija as a community is seen for the first time in a Panyam Inscription (AD.1319) of Kakatiya king Prataparudradeva." Panyam is in Kurnool and that is mentioned in the description of the inscription. My advise is to include that also in the article in the Medieval History section by creating a heading for Eastern Chalukyas or Gajapathis, which ever is appropriate. I think there must be a section for pre-medival history as Balijas origin can be traced from much earlier than 500AD and many earlier books on Balijas have referenced mauryan, satavahan, pallava and vishnukundin times as well.

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muthuraja is primarily tamil community and not telugu community and the sources are given below:



I also want to address the citations currently used in the article that classify the Muthuraja/Mutharaiyar community as ''primarily Telugu''. These include:

# Athreya, Venkatesh B.; Djurfeldt, Göran; Lindberg, Staffan (1990) — ''Barriers Broken''
# K. M. Venkataramaiah (1996) — ''A Handbook of Tamil Nadu''
# Eveline Masilamani-Meyer (2004) — ''Kattavarayan Katai''
# Sanghvi, Balakrishnan & Karve (1981) — ''Biology of the People of Tamil Nadu''

While these are academically published, there are '''two major concerns''' with relying on them as the ''primary basis'' for defining the community’s ethnolinguistic origin:
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1️⃣ They classify the community only from a 19th–20th century migration lens


These sources describe the Muthuraja as a Telugu caste based largely on:


However, these works do not address '''the earlier medieval period identity of the Mutharaiyar dynasty (600–900 CE)''', which predates all Telugu migration records mentioned above. This makes these sources useful for modern sociological context but '''not for defining ancient ethnic origin.'''
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2️⃣ More recent research and epigraphic evidence points to Tamil origin


Recent and better-aligned historical/archaeological materials show:


Supporting sources include:


These sources reflect the community’s historical origin '''more accurately''' than the 20th-century sociological works that examined them only in later migration context. &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 04:44, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

The Mutharaiyar community is a group of people with both Tamil and Telugu speaking sub-castes who were unified under a single official name by the Government of Tamil Nadu. The unification order (G.O. 15/22.02.1996) brought together 29 existing sub-castes for the purpose of government records and backward class reservations. <ref>{{cite book|editor1-last=N . Hari Bhaskar, Chief Secretary of Tamil Nadu Government|author2=|title=G.O.Ms.No :15 ( Backward Classes and Most Backward Classes Welfare Department ) dated 22-2-96|volume= |publisher=TAMIL NADU ELECTRICITY BOARD BULLETIN |date=July 1996 |quote=( PART - 2 ) GENERAL ADMINISTRATION & SERVICES ( Page 2 ) GOVERNMENT OF TAMILNADU ABSTRACT : WELFARE OF BACKWARD CLASSES - Mutharaiyar community and its Sub-sects calling the main community and its Sub-sects
as Mutharaiyar - Orders - Issused |url=http://tneb.tnebnet.org/test1/Gazette/YearWisePDF/1996/1996_July.pdf}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|editor1-last=எஸ்.சஞ்சய் ராமசாமி|author2=|title=மத்திய மண்டலம் அரசியல் பரபர முத்தரையர்கள் வாக்கு யாருக்கு?|volume= |publisher=விகடன் இதழ் |year=15 Sep 2010|page=|quote=96-ம் ஆண்டு 29 பிரிவுகளாக இருந்த எங்கள் சமுதாய மக்களை 'முத்தரையர்கள்' என்கிற பெயரில் ஒருங்கிணைத்து அரசாணை பிறப்பித்தார் ஜெயலலிதா| url=https://www.vikatan.com/government-and-politics/local-bodies/52920--2 }}</ref>

The Tamil-speaking members of the Mutharaiyar community are predominantly found in the central and southern districts of Tamil Nadu

The Telugu-speaking members, such as Muthuraja Naidu and Muthuraja Naicker, are found in northern Tamil Nadu districts--Almighty34 (talk) 12:06, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

:Muthuraja is tamil speaking community bro while Muthuraja naidu is telugu speaking so there is the difference. i request you to update the article. &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
::@Almighty34l please atleast update the origin of both tamil and telugu communities in the article. &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76 I have updated it.--Almighty34 (talk) 17:15, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for updating. One more thing I rquest you to update is both muthuraja and muthuraja naidu comes under mutharaiyer community so please update the first paragraph in this following words "Mutharaiyar consists of both tamil communities and as well telugu community,muthuraja comes under mutharaiyar is tamil speaking community while muthuraja naidu is telugu speaking community.muthuraja community is historically connected to tamil speaking mutharaiyar dynasty".@Almighty34l &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
:Final I beg you to please include Mutharaiyar dynasty origin also
:== 1. Origin of Mutharaiyar (Tamil) ==
:All early Mutharaiyar chiefs (7th–9th century) are known '''only from Tamil inscriptions''' found in Thanjavur–Pudukottai–Tiruchirappalli regions, and they used '''pure Tamil titles''' like ''Perumbidugu Mutharaiyar'', ''Valavarayar'', and ''Ayyan''. Modern historians (Karashima, Subbarayalu, Mahalingam) classify them as '''Tamil-speaking feudal chiefs of the Kaveri delta''', with no inscriptional or linguistic evidence for Telugu origin.
:----
:== 2. No proven link to Kalabhras ==
:The “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” theory is an '''early 1900s speculation''' by Gopinatha Rao, made '''before''' most Mutharaiyar inscriptions were discovered. Modern research rejects this link because Kalabhras belong to an '''earlier period (3rd–6th century)''', follow different religious traditions, and have '''no inscriptional continuity''' with the Mutharaiyars. Therefore it is considered a '''fringe, outdated hypothesis''' under WP:DUE. &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 18:03, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
:: 2. No proven link to Kalabhras ==
:: The “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” theory is an '''early 1900s speculation''' by Gopinatha Rao, made '''before''' most Mutharaiyar inscriptions were discovered. Modern research rejects this link because Kalabhras belong to an '''earlier period (3rd–6th century)''', follow different religious traditions, and have '''no inscriptional continuity''' with the Mutharaiyars. Therefore it is considered a '''fringe, outdated hypothesis''' under WP:DUE.@Almighty34l
:&#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 06:08, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76, The information about this should be written about in the Mutharaiyar dynasty ↗ article.--Almighty34 (talk) 06:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

You can write in the Mutharaiyar dynasty ↗ article with Reliable sources.--Almighty34 (talk) 06:56, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

:can you please update this information in mutharaiyar (which is written in tamil) article .i cant update their because i am new to wikipedia .@Almighty34l &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 08:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76 I have updated it.--

/The origin of the Mutharaiyar is shrouded in mystery. Historian T. A. Gopinatha Rao equates them with the Kalabhras as Suvaran Maaran, a prominent 8th century Mutharaiyar king of Thanjavur is styled KalavaraKalvan in one of his inscriptions. Few historians like Rao read the epithet it as KalabhraKalvan interchanging the letter v with b.[3] '''This linguistic speculation has been rejected by later scholars due to lack of evidence. The idea originated from a misreading of an inscription, and there is no inscriptional or historical evidence to support a continuous link between the two groups.'''./--Almighty34 (talk) 09:15, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Please Update Muthuraja article



Bro please update atlease Muthuraja subcaste under mutharaiyar is tamil speaking while mudiraju is telugu. hence take telugu out of the muthuraja article &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76 I have updated it.--Almighty34 (talk) 17:15, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for updating. One more thing I rquest you to update is both muthuraja and muthuraja naidu comes under mutharaiyer community so please update the first paragraph in this following words "Mutharaiyar consists of both tamil communities and as well telugu community,muthuraja comes under mutharaiyar is tamil speaking community while muthuraja naidu is telugu speaking community.muthuraja community is historically connected to tamil speaking mutharaiyar dynasty".@Almighty34l &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 17:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
:: Final I beg you to please include Mutharaiyar dynasty origin also
:: == 1. Origin of Mutharaiyar (Tamil) ==
:: All early Mutharaiyar chiefs (7th–9th century) are known '''only from Tamil inscriptions''' found in Thanjavur–Pudukottai–Tiruchirappalli regions, and they used '''pure Tamil titles''' like ''Perumbidugu Mutharaiyar'', ''Valavarayar'', and ''Ayyan''. Modern historians (Karashima, Subbarayalu, Mahalingam) classify them as '''Tamil-speaking feudal chiefs of the Kaveri delta''', with no inscriptional or linguistic evidence for Telugu origin.
:: ----
:: == 2. No proven link to Kalabhras ==
:: The “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” theory is an '''early 1900s speculation''' by Gopinatha Rao, made '''before''' most Mutharaiyar inscriptions were discovered. Modern research rejects this link because Kalabhras belong to an '''earlier period (3rd–6th century)''', follow different religious traditions, and have '''no inscriptional continuity''' with the Mutharaiyars. Therefore it is considered a '''fringe, outdated hypothesis''' under WP:DUE.@Almighty34l
:&#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
:Please update from
:'''Muthuraja''' (also known as '''Mutharaiyar''') is a Tamil ↗ and Telugu ↗ speaking community found in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu ↗.
:to
:Muthuraja consists of both tamil and telugu speaking community's with different cultural roots &#126;2025-37146-15 ↗ (talk) 14:36, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
::@Almighty34l &#126;2025-37146-15 ↗ (talk) 14:36, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76 I have updated it.--Almighty34 (talk) 02:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

:please add this bro:
:: 2. No proven link to Kalabhras ==
:: The “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” theory is an '''early 1900s speculation''' by Gopinatha Rao, made '''before''' most Mutharaiyar inscriptions were discovered. Modern research rejects this link because Kalabhras belong to an '''earlier period (3rd–6th century)''', follow different religious traditions, and have '''no inscriptional continuity''' with the Mutharaiyars. Therefore it is considered a '''fringe, outdated hypothesis''' under WP:DUE.@Almighty34l
:&#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 05:17, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76, The information about this should be written in the Mutharaiyar dynasty ↗ article.--Almighty34 (talk) 06:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

:can you please update this information in mutharaiyar (which is written in tamil) article .i cant update their because i am new to wikipedia .@Almighty34l &#126;2025-35932-76 ↗ (talk) 08:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

You can write in the Mutharaiyar dynasty ↗ article with Reliable sources.--Almighty34 (talk) 06:56, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-35932-76 I have updated it.--

/The origin of the Mutharaiyar is shrouded in mystery. Historian T. A. Gopinatha Rao equates them with the Kalabhras as Suvaran Maaran, a prominent 8th century Mutharaiyar king of Thanjavur is styled KalavaraKalvan in one of his inscriptions. Few historians like Rao read the epithet it as KalabhraKalvan interchanging the letter v with b.[3] '''This linguistic speculation has been rejected by later scholars due to lack of evidence. The idea originated from a misreading of an inscription, and there is no inscriptional or historical evidence to support a continuous link between the two groups'''/.--Almighty34 (talk) 09:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

I request you to update the mutharaiyar wiki article origin and religion section:



Please add this in mutharaiyar article under origin:
: No proven link to Kalabhras ==
: The “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” theory is an '''early 1900s speculation''' by Gopinatha Rao, made '''before''' most Mutharaiyar inscriptions were discovered. Modern research rejects this link because Kalabhras belong to an '''earlier period (3rd–6th century)''', follow different religious traditions, and have '''no inscriptional continuity''' with the Mutharaiyars. Therefore it is considered a '''fringe, outdated hypothesis''' under WP:DUE.@Almighty34l
Please add this in religion section:
Mutharaiyars are hindus
Historical inscriptions show that the Mutharaiyar chiefs of the 7th–9th centuries were predominantly Hindu, with grants recorded to both Shaivite and Vaishnavite temples across the Thanjavur–Pudukottai region. There is no inscriptional evidence linking them to Jainism, and the idea of a Jain affiliation appears only in outdated theories that attempted to connect the Mutharaiyars with the earlier Kalabhra dynasty. Modern scholarship rejects this link, and the Mutharaiyars are widely regarded as Tamil Hindu chiefs of the early medieval Kaveri delta &#126;2025-36805-03 ↗ (talk) 11:54, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-36805-03 Bro, you have to write from reliable sources, otherwise it may be reverted by other users.--Almighty34 (talk) 16:09, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

:<blockquote>While early-20th-century historian T. A. Gopinatha Rao proposed identifying the Mutharaiyars with the Kalabhras—based largely on interpreting the epithet “Kalavara-Kalvan” as ''Kalabhra-Kalvan''—this view is not accepted by modern scholars.<nowiki><ref>Rao, T. A. Gopinatha (1910). </nowiki>''Inscriptions of the Pudukkottai State''. Government Press.<nowiki></ref></nowiki>
:Contemporary research notes that the '''Mutharaiyars were a Tamil warrior-chief lineage''' flourishing in the 7th–9th centuries CE,<nowiki><ref>Subramanian, T. N. (1966). </nowiki>''The Cholas''. University of Madras.<nowiki></ref></nowiki> whereas the Kalabhras belong to an earlier period (3rd–6th centuries CE) and remain obscure in origin and identity.<nowiki><ref>Nilakanta Sastri, K. A. (1955). </nowiki>''A History of South India''. Oxford University Press.<nowiki></ref></nowiki>
:Because there is '''no epigraphic, genealogical, or cultural continuity''' linking the Kalabhras and the Mutharaiyars, and since Rao’s proposal relied on a speculative reading rather than inscriptional evidence, historians regard the “Mutharaiyar = Kalabhra” hypothesis as an '''outdated fringe theory'''.<nowiki><ref>University of MS (2023). </nowiki>''Tamil Nadu History to 1336 AD''. Manonmaniam Sundaranar University, pp. 44–46.<nowiki></ref></nowiki><nowiki><ref>“Mutharaiyar dynasty”, </nowiki>''Wikipedia'', summarizing mainstream scholarly consensus.<nowiki></ref></nowiki></blockquote>
:i pasted this in mutharaiyar article dont revert this bro @Almighty34l. &#126;2025-36805-03 ↗ (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

I Kindly request you to update mutharaiyar tamil article not the english version



முத்தரையர் - தமிழ் விக்கிப்பீடியா ↗
முத்தரையர்கள் களப்பிரர்களின் வழி வந்தவர்கள் என்றும், சேர, சோழ, பாண்டிய மன்னர்களை வென்றவர்கள் என்றும் சில அறிஞர்கள் குறிப்பிடுகின்றனர்.
this above information alone not enough extra should include then only it is correct
முத்தரையர்கள் களப்பிரர்களின் சந்ததியர் என்ற கருத்துக்கு கல்வெட்டு, வரலாறு, கலாசார ஆதாரங்கள் எதுவும் ஆதரவாக இல்லை.<nowiki><ref>K.A. Nilakanta Sastri, </nowiki>''The Cholas''.<nowiki></ref></nowiki> இவ்விரு சமூகங்களும் வேறு காலத்தில், வேறு அரசியல் சூழலில், வேறு கலாசார அடையாளத்துடன் செயல்பட்டவை.<nowiki><ref>T.V. Mahalingam, </nowiki>''South Indian Polity''.<nowiki></ref></nowiki> முத்தரையர்களைச் சார்ந்த கல்வெட்டுகள் அவர்களை பல்லவர் ஆட்சியின் உள்ளூர் அரசர்களாகவே வரையறுக்கின்றன; களப்பிர வம்சத்துடன் தொடர்பு கொண்டதாக எங்கும் பதிவில்லை.<nowiki><ref>Noboru Karashima, </nowiki>''A Concordance of the Names in the Chola Inscriptions''.<nowiki></ref></nowiki> ஆகவே முத்தரையர்கள் களப்பிர வம்சத்துடன் தொடர்புடையவர்கள் என்ற கருதி வரலாற்று ஆதாரமற்றது.<nowiki><ref>Burton Stein, </nowiki>''Peasant State and Society in Medieval South India''.<nowiki></ref></nowiki>''' &#126;2025-37146-15 ↗ (talk) 14:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

:I cannot update that article i dont know why so only i am asking you to update bro @Almighty34l. &#126;2025-37146-15 ↗ (talk) 14:29, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Edit request: Add sourced clarification under ‘முத்தரையரின் தோற்றம்’ section of the முத்தரையர் (Mutharaiyar)tamil article



முத்தரையர்கள் களப்பிரர்களின் கிளை அல்லர் என்பதே இன்றைய வரலாற்றாய்வாளர்களின் ஒருமித்த கருத்து. களப்பிரர்கள் 3-ஆம் நூற்றாண்டு முதல் 6-ஆம் நூற்றாண்டு வரையே செயல்பட்டவர்கள்; 6-ஆம் நூற்றாண்டுக்குப் பிறகு களப்பிரர் என்ற பெயர் ஒரு கல்வெட்டிலும் வரவில்லை. ஆனால் முத்தரையர்கள் 7-ஆம் நூற்றாண்டு முதல் 9-ஆம் நூற்றாண்டு வரை தஞ்சை-திருச்சி-புதுக்கோட்டை பகுதிகளில் பல்லவர் மற்றும் பாண்டியர் கீழ் உள்ளூர் தமிழ்ச் சிற்றரசர்களாகவே தோன்றுகின்றனர் (Karashima 2014, p. 92; Champakalakshmi 1996, p. 214). “களவர்க் கள்வன்” என்ற பட்டம் கள்ளர், மறவர் போன்ற தமிழ்ப் போர்க்க்குடிகளுக்கு வழங்கப்பட்ட பொதுப் பட்டமே தவிர களப்பிரரைக் குறிக்கவில்லை என்பதை நவீன ஆய்வுகள் உறுதிப்படுத்தியுள்ளன (Rajan 2008, p. 78; Karashima 2014, p. 93). எனவே முத்தரையர் = களப்பிரர் கிளை என்ற கருத்து இன்று கைவிடப்பட்ட பழைய கோட்பாடு (obsolete theory) ஆகும்.

References  

- Karashima, Noburu (2014). *A Concise History of South India*. New Delhi: Oxford University Press.  

- Champakalakshmi, R. (1996). *Trade, Ideology and Urbanization: South India 300 BC to AD 1300*. New Delhi: Oxford University Press.  

- Rajan, K. (2008). *Situating Early Historical Sites in Tamil Nadu*. Chennai: Department of Archaeology.

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