User Talk: Ankylosaur Enthusiast

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You know who I am, no formal greeting needed, I'm working on the project page as of now, but expect delays cause of school (as you probably know already) Sauriazoicillus (talk) 02:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

TimTheDragonRider what should we name the project, also what are we doing again?? Are we going to pick an article and just focus on a singular article at a time? if so we need to create a name that encapulates that Sauriazoicillus (talk) 03:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

How do I talk properly?
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:well there are a lot of intricacies that you'll learn through just simply using Wikipedia and getting used to the UI for instance ":" shifts text back, that's how this was shifted back, i usually use it to show who im responding to and "~ ~ ~ ~"(without spaces) just adds your Wikipedia contacts, time and date in UTC, anymore questions? Sauriazoicillus (talk) 08:41, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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Trouble with ''Tarchia''?

Hi Ankylosaur Enthusiast.
I saw that you on 30th December 2021 removed my life restoration ↗ and size comparison diagram ↗ from the article on ''Tarchia ↗''. The problem is that you do not seem to provide any explanation to why. If you could do so, I think those of us who try to contribute with ankylosaur restorations would all be... "tank-ful" (pun intended).Conty~enwiki 07:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

:Hi Conty,
:Sorry that I didn't give an explanation earlier as to why I removed your reconstruction and size comparison diagram. The reason why I removed your reconstruction and diagram is because of a few inaccuracies: the osteoderm arrangement and morphology, the metacarpal configuration, the incorrect amount of digits in the pes, the musculature of the forelimbs and hindlimbs, the position of the spine, the absence of a beak, caputegulum on the sides of the skull and mandibular osteoderms, the amount of soft tissue on the skull, and the referral of "Tarchia" gigantea to the genus Tarchia. I hope this is helpful and "tank" you very much for bringing this to my attention (pun also intended). Ankylosaur Enthusiast (talk) 10:01, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Some of your objections (like the leg musculature) have been covered at the image review page ↗, so I will try to cover the rest here:

'''Osteoderms:''' on what basis do you find their arrangement and morphology inaccurate? I am not aware of any desribed ''Tarchia'' specimen showing what its armour looked like?

'''Metacarpals:''' how is the configuration inaccurate? Would you like them to be shorter?

'''toes:''' as far as I know, members of ankylosauridae had three toes on each foot (nodosauridae had four).

'''Position of the spine:''' have you interpreted my restoration correctly? Look at the the rows of osteoderms as they strecht from head towards the tail in my restoration, and notice that I have restored my ''Tarchia'' with three rows of osteoderms on each side of the body. I you look closely at the rows (starting from the right side of its body towards the left side), you might see that there is a somewhat larger "gap" between the third and fourth row of osteoderms: that is the body midline, i.e. where the spine is. Above the right hind leg you can also see a black line giving the impression of a small "hump": that is the right ilium, not the spine (in case you thought so).

'''Head:''' I agree that the head can be given more soft tissue and armour...

The large specimen ZPAL MgD I/113 is attributed to ''Tarchia gigantea'', even though Arbour ''et.al'' (2013) note ↗ that it differs from other specimens referred to this the genus (as I admit in the description of my images). Have I missed something (I have tried to read the "Discovery and naming" section on the article about ''Tarchia'' to get clarification)? Conty~enwiki 17:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Conference abstract citation

I noticed you added a citation to the 2019 abstract "The early Cretaceous ankylosaur ''Liaoningosaurus'' from Western Liaoning, China; Progress and problems." in your expansions of ''Chuanqilong ↗'' and ''Liaoningosaurus ↗''. The thing is, I couldn't find that abstract anywhere online; searching the title just returns Wikipedia and copies of Wikipedia. So how were you able to access it? 2001:4453:532:1900:6C:D436:EBF1:7F4C ↗ (talk) 07:33, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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