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Third opinion in the ongoing content dispute at the Foreign Policy of Bashar al-Assad ↗


Hello Bobfrombrockley can you provide your constructive views on an ongoing content dispute in the talk page of Foreign Policy of Bashar al-Assad ↗. I have pinged you for third opinion here ↗. Thanks!
Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 5:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Having fun?



I think you are demonstrating a great deal of patience on that Zionism talk page. I was going to comment that policies such as verifiability, original research, best sources, etc. seem to have fallen by the wayside in discussion on formulating an RfC. Don't want to torpedo what you are trying to do tho. Wanted to mention that i'm going to ask ↗ {{u|Theleekycauldron}} to either drop that "consensus required" restriction on the article or alter it in some way that WP:BURDEN ↗ still applies to content. Any thoughts? fiveby(zero) 15:35, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

:@Fiveby: To respond to that question, I don't think I'd be well-placed to assess whether the restriction is still needed, but consider this my waiver of any CTOP-level protections against any uninvolved admin lifting the restriction. theleekycauldron ↗ (talk • she/her) 15:41, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

Way forward



Hey, I know we're both reasonable editors and our dispute over what option F should say seems frustrating (at least to me). Would it be a reasonable compromise to say option F should be:
{{talkquote|'''F.''' The following text: "{{purple|Various proponents of Zionism have characterized it as colonial or settler-colonial. Joseph Massad wrote that, for political and ideological reasons, starting in the 1930s, some Zionist thinkers proposed that the Zionist movement should avoid using terms related to colonialism. Rashid Khalidi describes this move as an attempted rebranding of Zionism as an anticolonial movement.}}" should be replaced by "{{purple|Massad argues that, in the 1930s, some Zionists began to suggest a change in their ideological vocabulary away from the term “colonization”. Khalidi argues that Zionism sought to rebrand itself as anticolonial after 1939.}}"}}
That would make things crystal clear.
'''VR''' <sub>(Please ping ↗ on reply)</sub> 06:55, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
:Just saw thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zionism&diff=prev&oldid=1350666069#Break ↗. I guess your alternative proposal is:
:{{talkquote|'''F'''. Remove this paragraph entirely: "{{purple|Various proponents of Zionism have characterized it as colonial or settler-colonial. Joseph Massad wrote that, for political and ideological reasons, starting in the 1930s, some Zionist thinkers proposed that the Zionist movement should avoid using terms related to colonialism. Rashid Khalidi describes this move as an attempted rebranding of Zionism as an anticolonial movement.}}"}}
:Or for brevity,
:{{talkquote|'''F'''. Remove this paragraph entirely: "{{purple|Various proponents of Zionism have characterized...rebranding of Zionism as an anticolonial movement.}}"}}
:That is also a crystal clear proposal.'''VR''' <sub>(Please ping ↗ on reply)</sub> 07:06, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
::Sorry just saw this after commenting {{u|Vice_regent}}. Yes it’s frustrating and I totally understand your concern. For me what makes us even more frustrating is that as satisfactory solution could’ve been put in place several months ago if it was not for the battleground atmosphere in this topic area. The question of the second sentence should in fact be really easy to resolve based on a quick discussion between editors who read the source, but sadly that requires a level of maturity that not everybody seems to have. I don’t want the current second sentence to be deleted, but if there’s no way of getting a version of it, they’re actually reflects the source it sites then I guess where I’m moving to now is that we’re gonna have to deal with those two sentences separately after this RFC if any option other than A prevails, because they’re only fully compatible in their present form with A, but it wouldn’t be difficult to edit them to fit any of the other options. BobFromBrockley (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
Agreed. Coming back to specifics, then here's yet another version:
:{{talkquote|'''F'''. Remove this sentence entirely: "{{purple|Various proponents of Zionism have characterized...}}" while keeping the next two sentences as is, as seen in the current version of the article <insert link>.}}
I've now proposed 3 wordings of option F in this section, are any of them acceptable to you? '''VR''' <sub>(Please ping ↗ on reply)</sub> 07:57, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you {{u|Vice_regent}}. All of those are acceptable to me. I don't know which is best, and would be worried about multiplying options, so I won't object to any of these. BobFromBrockley (talk) 10:06, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
::Sounds good, I'll propose the last as a replacement for the current F.'''VR''' <sub>(Please ping ↗ on reply)</sub> 13:20, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

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A note



Hey I want to say that I really appreciate that you demonstrate it's ''possible'' for people to disagree collaboratively and without all the drama on the PIA CTOP. We may not agree all the time but I find your approach refreshing. Simonm223 (talk) 13:06, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you. That's very gratifying, as I realised this week I might've slipped into snippiness which I try to avoid. Same back to you! BobFromBrockley (talk) 17:16, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

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note



Hey Bobfrombrockley, just a note of appreciation and gratitude for the gesture of solidarity. That's class. إيان (talk) 01:55, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Requests for comment



Please don't make edits like these ↗. When you made them you were shown this notice ↗: note in particular the part about "your edits will be overwritten if you edit this page". The RfC listings are maintained by {{user|Legobot}}, and there is nothing in WP:RFC ↗ that says to edit the listings yourself. --<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:23, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

:I’m deeply embarrassed how badly I missed this up. And very grateful to you for clearing up after me. BobFromBrockley (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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Mis-formatting



Just as a note on this recent comment ↗ of yours at RSN, it looks like a stray 'enter' has been hit in the comment. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 15:23, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

:Thanks! Fixed BobFromBrockley (talk) 08:23, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

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Request for your comment



Hi Bob: There is a content dispute in Communist Party USA ↗. See discussion here ↗. Neutral TLDR: What membership number should we use? We can cite CPUSA, but that's primary, or we can cite ''The Guardian'', but the article might be mere citogenesis.

Asking for your input since you're a socialism expert and you're thoughtful even when you disagree with me. :) CopyleftEverything (talk) 02:30, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

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History of Zionism



I've started merging the articles here User:Cdjp1/sandbox/historic_spain_ranks#History_of_zionism, if you wanted to jump in and have a crack. The ETA for completion and push to the main article is ~27 June. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 16:21, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

:brilliant!! BobFromBrockley (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
::A note, as checking the "History of Zionism" article size as it presently stands, it is >13,000 words, and the transfer will only make it larger. So, I was wondering if you had any ideas on how to potentially split the article in time periods? Such as a "History of Zionism (pre-1949)" and "History of Zionism (post-1949)", though I have a feeling splitting into 3 articles would be the minimum necessary. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 16:38, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Israeli independence does seem to be the obvious watershed. perhaps either the first Zionist congress would be another.
:::in other words: forerunners and emergence of movement; movement itself; state? BobFromBrockley (talk) 23:53, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Seems good. We'll be able to crunch the numbers properly once I transfer the merge across. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 08:32, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

double post



Hey Bob thanks for your insight as always. Looks like you may have doubleposted by accident on the RSN thread. '''Andre'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 ↗</span> 19:59, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

:Thanks for noticing and for telling me. I lost connection and thought it didn’t post the first time. It looks like I changed it slightly. I don’t know if I have the brain space to work out which one’s the right one to keep.! BobFromBrockley (talk) 20:12, 9 July 2026 (UTC)