User Talk: CharlesTGillingham

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<div class="messagebox standard-talk">Having been contacted by the webmaster of countingcrows.com, I can confirm that this user is Charlie Gillingham ↗.<br/> —<tt class="plainlinks">'''freak ↗([{{fullurl:user talk:freakofnurture|action=edit&section=new}} talk])'''</tt> 12:12, Jun. 10, 2007 (UTC)</div>

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Variation of {{tl|sfn}}

I use {{tl|sfn}} constantly, so thank you for that. But, I wanted to solicit your help to create a very similar template (or perhaps modify {{tl|sfn}}, but for shortened citations that use work titles instead of publication dates. So "Smith, ''The Mango Daily'', p. 45" instead of "Smith 1996, p. 45". For an example of an article that uses this type of short citation format (albeit poorly and inconsistently), see Slavery in ancient Rome ↗. For the Wikipedia policy regarding this type of short citation, see WP:CITESHORT ↗. Alternatively--and perhaps preferably--we could modify {{tl|sfn}} to pull the second field from the date OR the work title. I placed a request for this at Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Short_formatting ↗ but nobody bit. I would really appreciate your help.-Esprit15d • <small>talk ↗</small> • <small>contribs ↗</small> 17:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:Sorry for taking a year and half to reply (I'm kind of retired from Wikipedia). The "author-date" system is pretty entrenched, but there are workarounds if this is really important to you. You can use sfn exactly the way you want, like so:
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{{fake heading|Notes}}
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{{fake heading|References}}

{{cite news| title=''Mango Daily''| date=June 2026 | ref = {{sfnref|The Mango Daily}}}}

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:Look at the source -- just set {{tl2|sfnref}} to whatever you put in {{tl2|sfn}}. Most reasonable things will work.----CharlesTGillingham (talk) 14:14, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
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Undefined harvnb reference in Philosophy of artificial intelligence

Hi, in this edit ↗ to Philosophy of artificial intelligence ↗ you used harvnb references to "Hearn 2007", but did not define the source. This means that nobody can look the reference up, and the article is added to :Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors ↗. If you could supply the missing source it would be appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 21:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi again, I've managed to fix it. You meant to type Fearn, not Hearn. DuncanHill (talk) 11:12, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

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Note to myself

The only guides that matter are {{tl|sfn}} and WP:SRF ↗

Redundant, obscure and poorly maintained documentation of short citations.
# Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples ↗. Posted on talk page. Redirect. {{tick}}
# Wikipedia:Verification methods ↗. Delete. (Redundant)
# Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example edits for different methods ↗. Posted on talk page. Delete.
# Wikipedia:Inline citation ↗ Edited down by half or so. Reworked the list of types of citations. {{tick}}
# Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations ↗. Remove section. {{tick}}

Needs a look-see
# WP:SRF ↗ Should introduce the top three implementation methods (and get out). Make sure all the examples are on the right level; are there problems that should be sfn#problems or features that should be at sfn#features? What else does this have?
# Wikipedia:Citation templates ↗. Check harv && sfn. {{tick}}
CharlesTGillingham (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Add MLA && "origdate" advice to {{tl|sfn/Features}}.
Go through talk pages of all short cite templates and collect more workarounds, if they exist.

Harv/doc/shared

:Hi. Why do we now have Template:Harv\doc\shared ↗ and Template:Harv/doc/shared ↗? They seem to cover similar areas. --<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64 🌹 (talk) 10:05, 4 July 2026 (UTC)

::{{ping|User:Redrose64}} It's was a typo when I created it. I Tagged it for speedy deletion. --- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 15:54, 4 July 2026 (UTC)