User Talk: Davey2116

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Edits, minor and otherwise

I notice that you're a new editor here. If you don't mind, I'll call your attention to an inadvertent breach of Wikipedia etiquette that you've committed.

You've made a number of edits to articles in which you've added material, and you've marked these as minor edits. This is a mistake. The minor-edit box should never be checked when content is added or deleted; the only times when it's acceptable is when you're making an edit that no one could possibly disagree with, e.g. correcting an obvious spelling or formatting error. This is explained in more detail at WP:MINOR ↗. In fact, it doesn't hurt at all to leave the box unchecked.

The reason why this is a problem is that some editors have their watchlists set up to exclude minor edits. To such an editor, marking a non-minor edit as a minor one might look like an attempt to sneak an edit of substance past article-watchers.

Sorry to pile on you with this Wikipolicy, but I thought you'd like to know lest you unintentionally give offense. Good luck with your editing endeavors! Ammodramus (talk) 02:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't aware of this Wikipolicy. I'll be sure to check the box only for truly minor edits as you've described. Thanks for correcting my error! Davey2116 (talk) 02:51, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

::No problem. It can seem at times as though there's a whole tangle of Wikipolicies that have to be figured out, but you'll learn them quickly enough.
::If you've got questions on policy or on any other aspect of editing, I'd be glad to try to help answer them. I can't exactly call myself a grizzled old editor, but I've been at it for a few years, and would be happy to provide what help I can. Just leave a message at my talk page. Ammodramus (talk) 12:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Japanese general election, 2017 ↗

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Deletionists

I ask if you understand the logic of these deletionists? It seems like the are motivated by running up the scoreboard of how many articles they can delete. Its the same logic of shooting spree murderers, trying to top the most killed scoreboard. Its obviously not productive in trying to build a worldwide knowledge database. Certainly as an open edit encyclopedia, we will get the crackpots who will post utter garbage to satisfy their own ego, POV agenda or malicious intent. We need a means to rout out that garbage and that depends on responsible editors. When you see a high edit count, you would assume they've been here being productive for a long time; they know the rules of the road; they have an interest in protecting the (often maligned) integrity of wikipedia. I'm still flabbergasted that they don't. What should be the deciding factor? Of course, sources backing it up. That is why we have a policy of WP:BEFORE ↗, simply put; before you complain, look it up, or using the currently most popular search engine as a verb, "Google it." I've been pounding this for years, but I feel alone; a one armed paper hanger in a room of collapsing walls. I see articles that were created with good intent, perhaps by a less knowledgeable wiki editor than myself, but with knowledge about a missing subject on wikipedia. I try to help when I have the time. Why won't these nominating editors use their time and ability to help? Why won't the serial delete voters help? But they don't. When their one or two "me too" ivotes successfully convince an Admin to close, Wikipedia loses the content and a new editor gets their contributions wiped out, deflating their interest in contributing more content in a subject we obviously have not fully reported. Interesting when I write deletionist, my autocorrect replaces it with deflationist. Maybe it is correct. Why is it, whenever I do get involved, I am able to produce sources that they do not? Do I have a magic technique to find things in Google that nobody else can see? Or did they simply not try? Why is there no penalty against them for not trying, repeatedly?

Now we have the new technique of deliberately wrecking the content, deleting or vandalizing it before or during the AfD process. What motivates them to pull this crap? We need to get to the heart of that motivation, otherwise it will embolden these idiots. Each success they get, the bigger their body count, the more they will continue to destroy what I've spent over a decade trying to support (and what I believe you support); free knowledge. Trackinfo (talk) 07:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Everything you said here is completely right. I don't get it either; a new editor who tries to do what they do presumably gets banned, whereas because these deletionists have been around for a while, they face no consequences. Additionally, I noticed that these deletionists are never around to explain themselves. Twice now, I've seen JPL leave a delete !vote in an AfD, with at most a few words masquerading as a reasoning, in reality showing that he barely looked at the article at all; and then JPL never checked back in the discussion again, even when we pressed him for responses. We see the same thing with Bueller (the nominator for the Chariton article); after he nominated the article he never once answered to BrendonTheWizard's and my questions as to why he vandalized the article and removed sources that were already there. Bueller also left a message on the talk page ↗ discouraging people from improving the article by creating section headers; when BrendonTheWizard and I called him out on this, he was never there to respond. I feel like this sort of behavior definitely shows a lack of dedication, both to the article that he himself nominated for deletion and to the entire Wikipedia project in general.

:I had been confident that the Hartson article would be kept. I saw how much effort you put into it, and I thought the article was in a passable shape for a stub, definitely better than some other articles. I thought surely the closing admin would take into account that JPL's strong delete !vote was basically discredited by his vandalism. So I considered it a bit strange that it got deleted in the end, considering its potential, and it's really saddening to see that the public will lose the opportunity to view the deleted content that should not have been deleted. But I'm confident that the Chariton article will stay. There are enough citations on it, and any objective observer should be able to see that the Keep votes come from those who actually bothered to try to find sources and improve the article, and the Delete votes come from those who just want to destroy content (and for what reason? did they not consider how they would feel if it were an article on a conservative figure that is unfairly deleted?). I'm just now seeing the two delete !votes that just got added; I immediately checked the article history, and, you guessed it, neither of them tried to improve the article at all! It's beyond ridiculous. The worst part is exactly what you said: these editors are usually really experienced, and they, more than most others, could use their time and effort for good, and they choose not to.
:I wish there were some way of addressing this besides just venting our frustration here. But you've been around for way longer than I have, and if as you say this has been going on for a while and nothing has been done, I really fear that it's going to be like moving a mountain. I'm hoping that an attentive admin will be the one to close the Chariton AfD, and he/she will notice the discussion about Bueller's and JPL's behavior and put a stop to this madness. The more I think about this issue, the more urgent I realize it is. I'm all in on combating these deletionists now; please, keep me posted on what you want to do. Davey2116 (talk) 08:14, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
::Here ↗ is step 1. Improve it, with new sources, maybe when she does something else noteworthy to pile on and resubmit the article. Now that they are calling precedence, we can't let them win on this one ↗ either. He has a new documentary coming out and some other old sources. We have to resubmit. If they successfully use precedence, they can wipe out a whole swath of related content. Keep fighting. Trackinfo (talk) 04:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you reverting my edit!

I really do apologize for making a mistake like that! I wasn't fully awake, so I got confused. I thought they passed the cloture motion already, and that they were doing the final vote on Kirstjen Nielsen. I should have double checked before updating the templates. Glad you were there to fix my mistake. I'll try to be more careful next time! Sucoleo (talk) 03:01, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem! It is clear that you made your edits in good faith, so everything is all right. Davey2116 (talk) 03:06, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dan Johnson (Kentucky politician) ↗

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Nice try.

It was California for Clinton 'vs' the rest of the country for Trump. Whether you like it or not :) GoodDay (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

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February 2018

{{unblock reviewed | 1=I'm not a sockpuppet. I have never used another account. Can someone please reconsider this case? Thanks. Davey2116 (talk) 03:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | accept = A checkuser ↗ has cleared your account, so please carry on. Apologies for the error here, your use of a few things caught my eye as someone we recently blocked, but it seems those were just coincidental. Once again, apologies I just got back online here and released the block as soon as I saw the notifications. I've made a note in your block log that the CU cleared the block, so no worries about that effecting how any admins treat you henceforth (as we don't count our own errors against you of course. Apologies for any inconveniences this may have caused. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— <big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big> // <span style="color:#009900;">have a</span> ☕️ ↗ // <span style="color:#4682b4;">beans</span> ↗ // </small> 15:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)}}

{{ping|Coffee}} This account is {{unrelated}} to Doc9871. —DoRD (talk) 12:17, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

DoRD, in which case I've removed those tags, and would request that somebody unblock Davey. Thank you, Mr rnddude (talk) 12:39, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

:: Seconded. They've been blocked nearly a day now; I assume we can act unilaterally, now that CU has spoken? <span style="color:black">''' >SerialNumber'''</span><span style="color:dark blue">'''54129'''</span> ↗<sup>...speculates</sup> 13:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
:::No, I'll give the blocking admin a chance first. —DoRD (talk) 13:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to all involved. I'm glad that the system corrects itself very quickly. I have one question: you noted that my "use of a few things" raised flags but it was coincidental; do I have to worry about using these things in the future? (If so, what are these things?) Thanks again, no need to apologize. Davey2116 (talk) 17:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

:*No, you shouldn't need to worry about this happening again. Anybody should have been able to work out that you and Doc were unrelated. As myself and SN54129 found out in five minutes, you had ''zero'' overlap with the banned editor. This is something that you're supposed to check when basing an action on behavioural evidence. Furthermore, your behaviour doesn't sync up with anything I know from Doc. Serious question, are you a conservative? cause your edits seem quite neutral to me. This was a case of egregious misjudgement and trigger happiness. It better not happen again. Cheers, Mr rnddude (talk) 03:19, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
::*Thank you. I read through (and gleaned Doc's political views from) the talk page exchanges he had with "Ihardlythinkso" here ↗. On Wiki, I make an effort to keep my political views from biasing my editing behavior too much, but I'm pretty strongly liberal and therefore disagree with Doc on the entirety of what he and IHTS talked about in that thread. Thanks for the reassurance that this sort of thing won't happen again. Davey2116 (talk) 04:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Ed Schultz ↗

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Contents list

How and why is your contents list upside down?? Govvy (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

{{ping|Govvy}} I got the source code for it by stealing it from User:Only in death's talk page:

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As for why, I think the original purpose was that, even if my talk page has many sections, it's easy to click the most recent one in the contents list, since it's right at the top of the list. My talk page is not long, but I just thought it looked cool! Davey2116 (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:I don't know, I actually found it a bit disorienting, the one that gets me is people's obsessions with colour as I am partially colour-blind. I can't read red on black and vice-versa. Govvy (talk) 17:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:*I can see how it might look uncomfortable. Now I'm glad that I don't use color anywhere on Wiki; I hadn't considered readability issues before. Davey2116 (talk) 18:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::In the '60's, as a form of protest, I would stick an American Flag stamp up-side down on all letters I sent.―<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Buster7'''''</span> <span style="color:#AAA;">☎</span> 14:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
::*Simple but effective; I like it! Davey2116 (talk) 16:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Annual readership template

I saw you added the template on Alan Gilzean ↗'s article talk page, is it really needed there? Other than a spike of over 15,000 hits for the month when he died, it's going to look flat-lined, so is it really needed? Govvy (talk) 09:54, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I think you're right. You can remove it if you want. Davey2116 (talk) 17:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Rigby's Water World ↗

Hello Davey can you move this into article thanks <small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 49.145.244.119 ↗ (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)</small>

RfC: Social democracy

You might be interested in providing your insight at: Talk:Bernie Sanders#RfC: Social democracy ↗. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 19:42, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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User page

Very interesting. Sca (talk) 02:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

{{ping|Sca}} What's very interesting? Davey2116 (talk) 03:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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Davey2116

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ITN recognition for United States federal government shutdown of 2018–2019 ↗

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January 2019

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A sock or a phony sock?

Howdy. I'm gonna assume that It tolls not for thee isn't Therequiembellishere evading his block. But, rather a troll editor, seeking to get Therequiembellishere further blocked. Anyways, I'll leave it to you to decide. GoodDay (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

{{ping|GoodDay}} Thanks for letting me know. That account is not me, and I don't think it's Therequiembellishere either. Davey2116 (talk) 01:49, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Tell where where splitting every code into completely useless (and TRULY unreadable) spaces is an accepted practice and where other editors besides yourself use it to demonstrate who is actually the "one [with] personal preferences". Therequiembellishere (talk) 02:05, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

:I'm also going to bed. Would love to deal with this whole stupid and ridiculously slow-burning thing when I'm back. Therequiembellishere (talk) 02:07, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

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Just one example of my reasonable edit that was quickly removed.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Hong_Kong_protests&oldid=prev&diff=923607015 ↗ - STSC (talk) 16:57, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{reply to|STSC}} I do not agree that this edit was reasonable. "Aggressive actions" as a header is, in my opinion, a pretty clear violation of WP:NPOV ↗, which is why you never see this section title in any other article on Wiki. In case you are a new editor, I would recommend that you describe within that section some violent actions by protesters, and attribute the "aggressive actions" claim to a reliable source. To most closely follow WP:NPOV ↗ you should then include a properly-sourced rebuttal, but it is alright if you ask someone with a different point-of-view than you to do this. Also, try to use the talk page to discuss your edits; if you think that this edit was reasonable and should not have been reverted, you should discuss it with the other editors on that page. Remember to WP:AGF ↗; do not assume that they are "activists" without evidence.
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{{reply to|Robert McClenon}} Thanks for the review. Draft:Kenvue ↗ existed before Kenvue ↗ did, and I and a few other editors there had been patiently waiting for a review when someone created Kenvue ↗. Would it be possible to delete the less detailed one and accept the draft? I'd greatly appreciate that. Davey2116 (talk) 05:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

:I am aware that the draft existed before the article. The article is tagged to have the draft merged into it. The information that is in the draft should be merged into it. I have never heard of an article being deleted to allow a draft to take its place. If you think that should be permitted, you may discuss the idea at the Teahouse ↗ or Village Pump ↗. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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