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Thanks,<br/><span style="color: #4590ff; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #4590ff;"><i>AlainR345</i></span><span style="color: #ffb000;"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></span> ↗</span> 06:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)<br/><br/>
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'''Welcome!'''

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Tom Hardy (designer) ↗ footnotes



I put it on the talk page of the article, but maybe it's better I write this on yours. Please read section 4 of WP:CITE ↗ (4.1 in particular) and use <ref<i></i>></ref<i></i>> tags and {{<i></i>reflist}} to create proper footnotes. It will make navigation of article and editing of footnotes much easier by automatically linking and numbering them. Also, don't clutter text with multiple footnotes for a single statement. No statement needs more than 2 footnotes to be verified by reliable sources. Something like this:<sup>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10</sup> really breaks the flow of the text and draws undue attention to a particular fact. Finally, don't leave bare links in the text (like at the end of the intro), as it is a violation of WP:EL ↗, convert them to footnotes if need be, if you don't change them to a full reference, a bot like DumZiBot will eventually convert them to something following the manual of style, but only if it's within ref tags.--Boffob (talk) 12:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

:OK, doing references is not that complicated. You simply need to write the references inside ref tags where you want to put it. Like so: Statement.<ref<i></i>>Reference</ref<i></i>>. You don't need to number them there, in fact, it's better not to. This will create a numbered footnote, but to have the footnotes display at the bottom, you need to put {{<i></i>reflist}} in the References (Sources, whatever) section (no need to rewrite the footnote content). Here's a concrete example (just edit the page to see how it looks): all I'm citing is the guidelines.<ref>WP:CITE ↗</ref> You can also read the manual of style.<ref>WP:MOS ↗</ref>--Boffob (talk) 02:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

My sources


{{reflist}}

:You're welcome. The article looks much better now.--Boffob (talk) 19:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI: Minor edits


You're probably not even aware, but you've been tagging your edits as minor ↗. --Ronz (talk) 02:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

More FYI


I've restored the discussion in Talk:Tom Hardy (designer) ↗ In general, such discussions should be kept per WP:TALK ↗. Note also that much more latitude is given to you with your own talk page.

You should take a look at WP:COI ↗ as well. I don't think you need to disclose anything about yourself, nor do I think that you've violated WP:COI in any way that's evident. --Ronz (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Moving a page



The general instructions are located at WP:MOVE ↗. There should be a tab at the top of the article, and if the new name is not taken already, it shouldn't require request to an admin.--Boffob (talk) 01:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Pop Art ↗


I started a dialogue - on the talk page...Lets discuss there, that's the protocol. Click Here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pop_art#Lead_Image ↗ Modernist (talk) 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::I started another discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#Lead_Image ↗ please add your opinions there also for other editors to weigh in....thanks..Modernist (talk) 21:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Anatomy of a Murder.jpg)


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Links


25px ↗ Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia{{#if:|, as you did to :{{{1}}} ↗}}. Wikipedia is not a collection of links ↗, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline ↗ and spam guideline ↗ for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses the nofollow ↗ attribute value, its external links are disregarded by some search engines, including Google ↗. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}|{{PAGENAME}} ↗<!-- Template:uw-spam2 --> http://spam.verbal-visual.com ↗ --Ronz (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Max Bill 1989 Aus Portfolio Kinderstern.jpg


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WikiProject Industrial design and Design Portal



I recently posted the following text on Wikipedia regarding the creation of a new Visual arts/Technology-related project in Wikipedia:

<blockquote>
WikiProject '''Industrial design''' is a Wikipedian community that aims to better organize information in articles related to '''Industrial design ↗''' (also called Product design).
</blockquote>

Please ''' support ↗''' this initiative,<br/>-- <span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px; font-family:Times; color:#4590ff; font-size:small;"><u><i>&nbsp;Alain&nbsp; R 3 4 5&nbsp;</i></u><br/><sup style="color:#ffb000;">Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></span> 23:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)<br/><br/>


Hi Dezignr! I missed your March entry into our small gang... I just added your name to the list of participants on the project. As I take a look at your contribs, I understand you are mostly interested in improving existing (Industrial) Design articles. That's great! We need that a lot. I may refer you to this page ↗ for ideas. Also, you may be interested in getting fresh news by including these two lines somewhere. Thanks for your support, --<span style="color: #4590ff; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #4590ff;"><i>AlainR345</i></span><span style="color: #ffb000;"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></span> ↗</span> 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br/>
<nowiki>==WikiProject Industrial design (announcements)==</nowiki><br/>
<nowiki>{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Industrial design/Announcements}}<!----></nowiki>

Better source request for File:IBM PC 1981.jpg



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File source problem with File:Eduardo-Paolozzi.jpg


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File source problem with File:Max Bill-Junghans clock 1958.jpg


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File source problem with File:Max Bill Junghans clock detail 1958.jpg


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File source problem with File:Max Bill Junghans watch 1962.jpg


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File source problem with File:Henry Wolf.jpg


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Conflict of interest?


I vaguely recall discussing WP:COI ↗-related issues with you years ago, but I'm not sure if I recall correctly if you disclosed your identity in those discussions. A great deal has changed over the past few years in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines concerning conflicts of interest, so you might want to review them again, especially WP:DCOI ↗ and WP:FCOI ↗.

Any COI aside, the requirements of WP:BLP ↗ are very rigid, and some of your edits need to be rolled back or better referenced. My rule-of-thumb is that if there's no third-party source available, it probably doesn't belong in a BLP. --Ronz (talk) 15:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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Ronz - Thanks for the heads-up about policy/guideline requirements and third-party sources. I will review then assess the edits and roll back accordingly.

Dezignr (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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Ronz - Removed content without third party references and adjusted some references for clarity. As a result of fixing third party source problem, issue template was removed.

Dezignr (talk) 01:37, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for responding here and with the edits. I'm definitely confusing you with other editors that work on the same and similar articles. If you need to disclose your interests, especially with Tom Hardy (designer) ↗, please at minimum add {{tlb|connected contributor}} to the article talk page. --Ronz (talk) 18:02, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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I've retagged the article. First I'd like to get the COI concerns settled: I'm not finding any disclosure from you after a quick skim of your editing, so perhaps the COI tag is unwarranted. I expect you know by now that you don't have to disclose anything. Given your interest in Hardy and the geographical location of the ip address you sometimes use, some sort of explanation would be helpful. --Ronz (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Ronz - Firstly, my view is that postings I have made on Hardy's page meet the Wikipedia neutral point of view (NPOV) - "...fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, presenting significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic". The material is not subjective and is based on verifiable facts. Documented material and related reference sources cited can be found across numerous online websites, including Hardy's LinkedIn page and business website, as well as published articles and books. Secondly, regarding the COI concerns, the tag is unwarranted. The interest in Hardy's accomplishments is to document the chronology of a design professional who has made verifiable contributions to the field. Dezignr (talk) 11:44, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for addressing the COI concerns.
:I'm going to ask for outside review to see what others think of the content in general before we go into specifics. --Ronz (talk) 16:26, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
:Before seeking a review, we need a discussion on the talk page. I've started one, using the first paragraph of the article body as an example of the problems in the article. --Ronz (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ronz - I could not locate the talk page discussion you started. Please advise as to location. Meanwhile, I studied other Wikipedia pages of similar notable individuals in the design field, such as Jonathan Ive, Karim Rashid, David M. Kelley and Bill Moggridge, then reorganized the Hardy page to be what would appear to be more encyclopedic. Dezignr (talk) 21:25, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
::Please stop removing the improvement template. Even if you had found the discussion and responded to it, removal of the template is inappropriate. It's there to identify that there is a dispute requiring assistance.
::The discussion is here: Talk:Tom_Hardy_(designer)#Resume ↗.
::(Could you link the articles you reference in the future?) Jonathan Ive ↗ is a class C article, so probably not something that will help much if at all. Karim Rashid ↗ is stub-class, and looks to be a mess. David M. Kelley ↗ is unreviewed as of yet. Bill Moggridge ↗ is stub class.
::If you want to find articles as examples to follow, look through the lists linked from WP:GA ↗. --Ronz (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ronz - Thanks for the discussion link + guidance for benchmark articles as examples to follow. As a result of reviewing this material, I significantly revised the Hardy article for improvement in context of being more concise, neutral and encyclopedic, rather than resume-like. This revision should justify removal of the 'improvement template'. Dezignr (talk) 04:30, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'd like to quickly get some other editors involved that can help you understand what is and is not encyclopedic. Given the lack of accessible references, I don't know what progress we can make though. Most editors are going to look at the references and decide it's not worth their time. Whatever we do, we need to get the discussion happening on the article talk page rather than here, so others can see what's been going on. I'm going to copy the last few comments from this discussion to the talk page. --Ronz (talk) 17:21, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Edit-warring against the Biographies of living persons policy


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Tom Hardy (designer) - Encyclopedic Version



Ronz - It seems like the most prudent way to proceed in resolving the 'resume' editing issue of the Hardy article at this point is for me to: (1) spend time conducting further research into the referenced sources in the article, (2) study encyclopedic writing style / examples and then (3) compose an encyclopedic-style draft for review. When finished, I will not edit the article with draft text but will post it here on the Talk page for review and discussion. This approach seems reasonable given your earlier point that other editors will most likely not spend time to search out the reference sources and compose an encyclopedic version...whereas I have some time + knowledge of the design field + have access to a number of the reference source pubs and know people who have access to the others. Dezignr (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks. I think that could help a great deal. However, it looks more than a little odd that you're not participating in the article talk page discussions.
:Concerning the sources, I wrote Talk:Tom_Hardy_(designer)#Making_the_refs_accessible_for_verification ↗ to point out some things that could be done to improve the references in general and to specifically help make the information be easily verifiable.
:Let me know how I can help. I'll try to set aside some time to look for online versions of references. --Ronz (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hi Dezignr! I noticed that you recently made an edit and marked it as "minor", but it may not have been. On Wikipedia, "minor edit ↗" refers only to superficial edits that could never be disputed, such as fixing typo ↗s or reverting obvious vandalism ↗. Any edit that changes the <em>meaning</em> of an article is not minor, even if it only concerns a single word. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-minor --> &nbsp;<span style="color:Purple">'''''Sumanuil'''''</span><span style="color:Purple">'''. '''</span><sub><span style="color:Purple">(talk to me)</span> ↗</sub> 06:00, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

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'''Disclosure:''' I have a conflict of interest regarding this topic as I am the topic individual. Therefore, I am requesting a neutral editor review the following proposed changes and in context of supporting references.

'''Information to change:''' "Any current text in the article that needs updating to reflect a neutral voice."

'''Supporting references:''' {{Reflist|2}}

Thank you for your time and review. Dezignr (talk) 10:32, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

:{{not done for now}}<nowiki />''':'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Did you mean to make an empty edit request on your own talk page? These show up in a queue, so I'm marking it as answered for now. If you have an actual request feel free to open it back up, but it should probably be on an article talk page rather than your own. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:19, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Citations



Just as an FYI, per MOS:CITEPUNCT ↗ citations go '''after''' punctuation, not before. Streetr4 (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

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30px|alt=Stop icon ↗ '''You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war ↗, according to the reverts you've made to :Tom Hardy (designer) ↗.''' This means that you are repeatedly reverting content back to how you think it should be, despite knowing that other editors disagree. Once it is known that there is a disagreement, users are expected to collaborate ↗ with others, avoid editing disruptively ↗, and try to reach a consensus ↗ – rather than repeatedly reverting the changes made by other users.

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June 2026


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:@Dezignr you've been warned on several occasions about disruptively editing an article about yourself. As such you have lost access to edit the article. You're welcome to use the Talk page to make edit requests. <span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span> <span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span> 00:41, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
::Hi @Dezignr, you can use the Edit Request Wizard (click here) ↗ to make this easier for you. Further information and instructions are available at Wikipedia:Edit requests ↗ Blue<span style="opacity:0">-</span>Sonnet ''In solidarity'' ↗ 01:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: sandbox (June 29)


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Editing about Hardy and your ban



If you think there is good reason to request an edit, then the proper procedure has been explained to you above. There are also ways to appeal the ban. However, my suggestion is to avoid editing on the topic altogether. Bobby Cohn&nbsp;🍁 (talk) 23:04, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Dezignr Courtesy link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dezignr#c-Blue-Sonnet-20260602012300-Star_Mississippi-20260602004100 ↗
:I'm also concerned that you've used an AI/LLM to write your latest draft attempt (as well as some of your recent comments). If I'm correct please read through WP:NEWLLM ↗ and WP:AITALK ↗ to understand why this should be avoided. ''In solidarity,'' ↗ Blue<span style="opacity:0">-</span>Sonnet <small>(I'm listening)</small> 23:33, 29 June 2026 (UTC)