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Hi, I'm Salimfadhley. Docentation, thanks for creating Ingando ↗!

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Hello Docentation, Jarrvis here. You're quite right - 'self-contradictory' can appear a harsh label. However, what I suggested was self-contradictory was not the use of two different sources with two different claims. If anything, that would be sound academic practice, to point out the diversity of views. What I suggest is self-contradictory was the claim that the Ingando camps were first used in a particular context (even before the Rwandan Civil War), and then an immediate follow-up claim (with no effective caveats made whatsoever) that they were post-Civil War instruments.

Regarding your second question, it appears clear that where conflicting views from the sources exist, the views ought to be clearly set out (along with the supporting source material). Having reviewed the alleged "sources", I can find little evidence that the deleted one is genuinely any support for the claim it purportedly made. The link was at best tenuous, and quite simply superfluous. In this context, its being elided appeared eminently justifiable to me.

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Hi, Docentation, I have edited your recent contribution to Aberporth ↗. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aberporth&type=revision&diff=905213554&oldid=905212296&diffmode=source ↗. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs ↗) (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
: Hello {{Reply to|Gareth Griffith-Jones}}; thank you for changing that. May I ask whether it’s standard practice? (I ask because it seems to be to be slightly more inelegant to have Welsh: x (y) than “the Old Welsh a (b), c (d)” &c.) If it is I shall rectify my other additions—it just occurred to me that my copy of ''Place-Names of Great Britain and Ireland'' is useful for something other than joking about possessing boring books to friends, so I intend to upload most of the etymological information from it to Wikipedia in the fullness of time. Docentation (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

::Hello! No, not standard practice, but if a template is available, I tend to use it. I suppose it was the "old" that I took notice{{mdash}}seemed redundant as modern Welsh applies too. Does that make sense? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs ↗) (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

::: I see, {{Reply to|Gareth Griffith-Jones}}; I have a feeling that the template was intended to be used slightly differently, though I share the desire to use templates where they exist. The example given at Template:Lang-cy ↗ is “Thuringia (German: Thüringen)”, which is different from “Welsh: ''aber'' (mouth)”; the former seems to be a reasonable use of punctuation, the latter not. As for Welsh and Old Welsh, I think that it is useful to distinguish between the two for etymological purposes, even if the words are the same. I don’t feel too strongly about this so I shan’t interfere with Aberporth. Docentation (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

::::Good to hear back from you. Cannot disagree. Have fun with the etymology! Don't worry about pinging{{mdash}}you're on my watchlist since 18:26. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs ↗) (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

::::: Glad we reached consensus; I’ll revert the change to Aberporth ↗ if that’s all right with you. Docentation (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Of course it is. Wishing you a pleasing week! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs ↗) (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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: {{reply to|Naypta}} I see; I should have read the documentation. Thank you for pointing this out. Docentation (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:{{reply|Jonathan A Jones}} yes, fair enough—he who drafts inebriated had better (finalise) edit(s) sober. I suppose, apropos, that congratulations are in order. Docentation (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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<p><strong>Additionally, you must be logged in, have 500 edits, and have an account age of 30 days ↗, and you are not allowed to make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on any page within this topic.</strong></p><p>Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics <em>procedures</em>, you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard ↗ or you may learn more about this contentious topic ↗. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{tl|Ctopics/aware}} template. </p>}} I can see you've been editing long enough that you're probably already aware of contentious topics, so this might not ''technically'' be necessary, but as you've yet to've been ''"officially notified"'' it's better to be safe then sorry, even if it's just a procedural formality. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 23:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

:I suppose I ought to have notified myself to stop others from going to the trouble… Docentation (talk) 00:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

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