User Talk: Jhansen23

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Sister projects

Hello! Is there a reason why you are removing the links and boxes to sister projects like Wikimedia Commons and Wikisource from several articles? Your edit summaries imply they are blank spaces, which is certainly not the case and quite disingenuous. --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

:Hello! I was editing in the "Visual Editor", and I saw several spaces between the External Links section header and where the links began (perhaps this is just how it looked while editing, and is not actually the case), so I clicked into the space just right of the first bullet point and then hit backspace several times in order to move the bullet points up until the first bullet point would begin immediately below the External Links section header instead of there being a gap (just like it is with all of the other section headers). I did not at all mean to remove the links and boxes to the sister projects, and honestly did not even know that I could remove them by editing inside the article like that. I am new to this. I'm very sorry, and will be much more careful for that in the future. Thanks for letting me know! Jhansen23 (talk) 14:40, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
::Yes, you definitely deleted real content. It helps to remember that edits to Wikipedia based on what ''you see'' are problematic because our various devices don't necessarily display the same way. Cheers. --Midnightdreary (talk) 14:50, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Pauline Hopkins

Hello Jhansen23, please use the button '''Show changes''', before you publish, see here ↗, you deketed the whole info box. Regards --Serols (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

:My apologies! I see it has now been fixed. Will do in the future. Jhansen23 (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

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Infoboxes

Please do not add infoboxes to existing articles (especially mature ones and ones in the liberal arts fields) without first raising a new WP:CONSENSUS ↗ on the Talk page to add one. The Wikipedia Manual of Style ↗ says: "Whether to include an infobox ... is determined through discussion and consensus '''among the editors at each individual article'''." While sports and politician bios can benefit from infoboxes, most articles in liberal arts fields do not. See arbitration report: "Infoboxes may be particularly unsuited to liberal arts fields when they repeat information already available in the lead section of the article, are misleading or oversimplify the topic for the reader". ↗ Some reasons for this are: (1) The boxes tend to ''emphasize unimportant factoids stripped of context and lacking nuance'', in competition with the WP:LEAD ↗ section, which emphasizes and contextualizes the most important facts. (2) Since the most important points in the article are already discussed in the Lead, or adequately discussed in the body of the article, the box would be ''redundant''. (3) It would take up valuable space at the top of the article and ''hamper the layout'' and impact of the Lead. (4) ''Frequent errors'' creep into infoboxes, as updates are made to the articles but not reflected in the redundant info in the box, and they tend to draw ''vandalism ↗, fancruft'' and repeated arguments among editors about what to include. (5) The boilerplate infobox templates create a block of ''code at the top'' of the edit screen that ''discourages new editors from editing the article''. (6) It would ''discourage readers from reading the text of the article''. (7) IBs ''distract editors from focusing on the content'' of the article. Instead of improving the article, they spend time working on this repetitive feature and its coding and formatting. See also WP:DISINFOBOX ↗. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

:Sounds good, thank you for letting me know! Jhansen23 (talk) 16:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

::I would add, similar to the above, many infoboxes are purposely left simple; even if there are additional parameters, those lines are likely intentionally left blank due to potential nuance or, as WP:DISINFOBOX ↗ notes, they would otherwise add little value. I would recommend focusing on building content in the articles themselves rather than something superfluous like an infobox. --Midnightdreary (talk) 21:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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