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Hi User:JoeyofScotia, can you add a bit to Maiorana page about origin of marjoram (here http://surnames.enacademic.com/31893/Marjoram ↗), thanks if you can.--Theo Mandela (talk) 08:35, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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Pluscarden Abbey

Your recent edit in the above article contains several plagiaristic expressions. Can you revisit and correct these please. Thanks. Bill Reid | (talk) 15:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

@Bill Reid I edited Pluscarden Abbey. Hopefully, any plagiarism has been removed. JoeyofScotia (talk) 13:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

:Aye, thanks for that. Bill Reid | (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Source for Maghull

Have reverted and added a CN while I look into the Mayweed claim. Do you happen to know anything about the Key English Place-Names ↗ from Nottingham University? Seems legit but have never used it before. Koncorde (talk) 19:05, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

:{{reply to|Koncorde}} English place-names from Nottingham is legitimate, and is based on reliable sources, of which include Mawer's "Place-names of Northumberland and Durham"; I have used this as a citation multiple times.
:The "mayweed" claim was mentioned in the "Brittonic Language In The Old North" (Maghull was so mentioned as it may contain a Brittonic element), but where Alan James received this from I am presently unsure.
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::Cheers Joey. Koncorde (talk) 03:34, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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{{reply to|PamD}}, Dunmallet is in the source by another name (Dunmallard). I will add the various etymological explantations for this name in due course.
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:Thanks. I've clarified the original post. Still puzzled by your "access date". Did you copy the ref from another article? <span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span><span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span> 12:12, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

{{reply to|PamD}} I copied the reference from an article where I had used it previously.JoeyofScotia (talk) 12:13, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hmm, it might be better practice if you quickly check that the web link still works and then add today's date. Then if it does disappear and someone's trying to track it down they've at least got a more recent target date. And if you check the link and find it doesn't work today, you can dig around in your area of expertise and track it down to its new location, or find an archived copy. <span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span><span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span> 16:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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I apologize if my edits have the appearance of having based too much on one source.

There is little consensus around Pictish, because it is only attested as a few hundred linguistic fragments. The thesis by G Rhys has been cited in the numerous subsequent works on Pictish language, toponomy, etc (including this 2020 example by Prof Katherine Forsyth, https://eprints.gla.ac.uk/222539/1/222539.pdf, who has herself produced significant material surrounding the nature of Pictish), and the implication of this is that the work enjoys a level of acceptance among researchers.
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:I think that’s the point: “there is little consensus around Pictish”. That’s exactly what our articles should reflect. But the edits you have made project the ''only'' view as being the one put forward in this PhD thesis. There’s no harm in putting it forward as one of the hypotheses but (and I have to say that a PhD thesis is not a strong source in WP terms) to categorically state it as the accepted position is factually incorrect and infringes the neutrality requirement of WP:NPOV ↗. DeCausa (talk) 19:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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Query re Pen-y-ghent edit

Hi there. Just a polite query about an edit you made to Pen-y-ghent ↗ in 2020 (diff ↗). You introduced the text {{tq|the final element may be ''gïnt'', meaning "a heathen, a gentile" (< Latin ''gentis''; c.f. Welsh ''gynt'')}}, I just wanted to check whether that "less than" symbol after the open bracket and before "Latin" was deliberate or a typo. I'm not a linguist, so I'm not sure whether it has some meaning that I'm not aware of (perhaps "from"). I didn't want to delete it before checking, but if it has some linguistic significance it might be better to use a formulation that is meaningful to non-specialists. Thanks for your advice. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:27, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

CS1 error on Toponymy of England ↗

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