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allosaurus europaeus

hello you keep undoing my edits to allosaurus eurpaeus. there are hardly any size estimates for it avialable and Molina Perez & Paul are the only ones providing estimates. and theirs fallacies in your argument

for one the links you sent me indicated that such sources can be used in citing the estimates, but it should be worded correctly, like "this author in a book estimated this taxon at this size." such an avenue was suggested by Jen's L.

plus I'll say this again, Molina perez and his estimates are used on many pages for size estimates, so clearly they are not as unreliable as you indicate.

its also worth pointing out that Greg paul in later editions of Princeton field guides lime in 2024 stated that allosaurus europaeus size is uncertain, so the estimate you have there is questionable. a europaeus needs more size estimates included and Paul's updates on europaeus need to be included, so heres a compromise edit (crude draft real thing will be more properly cited.

"Due to incomplete remains, the size of ''A. europaeus'' has been difficult to estimate. (citation:Princeton field guide to dinosaurs 3rd edition) Gregory S. Paul estimated ''A. europaeus'' as 7 meters and 1 tonne in 2010. (Princeton field guide to dinosaurs edition one) Molina-Perez and Laramendi estimated a size of 7.8m and 1.3 tonnes in 2019. ( theropod facts and figures)."

this fits in line with one of the avenues Jens offered in those links you sent.

"Whenever original research from a popular book is presented, including size estimates, we need to make that very clear directly in the text (e.g., "In 2020, paleontologist X stated in a popular book that"). -- Jens Lallensack"

Themanguything (talk) 17:23, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

:What do you mean I keep reverted you? I've only reverted a single edit of yours. I don't think I've ever interacted with you before the Allosaurus article? Junsik1223 (talk) 17:28, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::Oh wait I did interact with you before in fact 3 years ago (but that is the only time I could remember I ever interacted with you). Sorry about the confusion. But regardless, I have stated clearly why it is not ideal for inclusion when there is another published estimate. Junsik1223 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:::and the other estimate is problematic because Paul reversed him in other books, look at page 114 of the 2024 Princeton field guide. regardless, Jens lallensack included an avenue to inclusion for my estimate, in the wiki project page. plus I preserve both estimates and mention how its size is kind of uncertain. Themanguything (talk) 17:39, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:::i made a compromise edit under the rigors Jens suggested Themanguything (talk) 17:44, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::::If you've read carefully the links I've sent, you could see that the co-author of the book has violated Wikipedia:Conflict of interest ↗ guidlelines. That is the other reason why it's not ideal for inclusion. Also you shouldn't just edit things when the discussion is not finished yet. Junsik1223 (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:::::sorry, i edited so I could look at the template draft I sent you so my edits wouldn't be malformed.
:::::i reread the links, apparently the issue was at the time the estimates in the book weren't fully published and having the guy himself put his in own estimates in was questionable, that's what Interpreted what was wrong. but they didn't appear to rule on the merits of his estimations but his conduct in citing rather.
:::::that aside, Jens lallensack said popular book info could be included if it fit the format he suggested & I did my best to make it as such.
:::::both estimates have their problems. Greg paul reversed himself in his later estimate like I've said (check 2016 and 2024 Princeton field guides.) and Molina Perez has all the problems you've indicated.
:::::but those are the only estimates there are, so in my opinion at least they should both be included. Themanguything (talk) 18:05, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:::::sorry for any hiccups, I'm just very passionate about what I include. I only wish to inform and update. I understand your edits on tarbosaurus so I have no issue their. Themanguything (talk) 18:06, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:::sorry for any trouble. also some things on tarbosaurus. rescued the mickey Mortimer link wasn't justified, mickey Mortimer is much more reliable than molina Perez and she was talking about the holotype in her estimate. so removing that wasn't justified. I mean shes cited across the wiki.
:::the wording also didn't seem right
:::I've contacted Phil currie and Mongolian paleontologists and they've confirmed that there are undescribed tarbosaurus specimens that are 12m long. I just included curries paper to give a point of reference and hone et al cited the paper in 2011.
:::sorry for any trouble today, I wish you a happy holidays Themanguything (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|Themanguything}} Please do not edit war. If somebody reverts you, you should not revert back but open a discussion. You could be blocked for edit warring (not by me, as I am not an admin; just saying). That said, I agree with Junsik on this one. You waste your time if you try to ignore a WikiProject consensus (you are welcome to challenge that consensus, on the WikiProject Paleo talk page). Also note that Paul's book is much more widely cited in the academic literature and got book reviews by renowned paleontologists such as Brusatte that suggest some degree of relevance, while the "Facts and Figures" book does not seem to have any of that sort … isn't it just a children's book? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:18, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

:ok I apologize, I fixed my edit. Themanguything (talk) 18:23, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

:on another note, could you send the paper "Cranial osteology of a new specimen of Allosaurus Marsh, 1877 (Theropoda: Allosauridae) from the Upper Jurassic of Portugal and a specimen-level phylogenetic analysis of Allosaurus" if you have access? I know you're a paleontologist so I thought you might have access. its paywalled everywhere Themanguything (talk) 18:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

::If you wikimail me your email address, so that I can send it to you in a private message, I may. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:54, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

:::dont know wikimail but I emailed you from your orchid adress Themanguything (talk) 19:17, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

''Aenocyon ↗''

You did a good revert here. Can you take a look at the TA's other edits ↗ and see what else should be reverted? Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) ↗ 00:26, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

:I will look into it later, if there were other edits that can be considered problematic. Junsik1223 (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Anniversary Junsik1223 🎉

Hey @Junsik1223. Your wiki edit anniversary is today, marking 5 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey and a blessed New Year. :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ ✉ 18:50, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

spinosaurus

hello I have a request for deletion

on the SPINOSAURUS page, there's a part that says " Material possibly belonging to ''Spinosaurus'' from the Turkana Grits ↗ of Kenya ↗ has been noted in 2004 "

would you please delete that? lead researcher on the turkana grits Joseph sertich has clarified in this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDqbvSaHB0 ) that the putative spinosaur remains are instead those of a large crocodile. stated at 19:15 minutes in. Themanguything (talk) 05:03, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

ANI thread relevant to you

Hey @Junsik1223, feel like you should know about this ANI thread ↗ about disruptive activity on your talk page recently. Courtesy ping to @Minna Sora no Shita, the original filer as well. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs ↗) 08:31, 25 April 2026 (UTC)