User Talk: NDG
Server-side rendered snapshot of this editor's Wikipedia talk page discussions.
Welcome!
Hi NDG! I noticed your contributions ↗ to :Sky-Watcher ↗ and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
{{Clickable button|Help:Introduction|Learn more about editing|class=mw-ui-progressive|style=margin-left: 1.6em;}}
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia ↗ page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
{{Clickable button|Wikipedia:Teahouse|Get help at the Teahouse|style=margin-left: 1.6em;}}
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
{{Clickable button|Wikipedia:Task Center|Volunteer at the Task Center|style=margin-left: 1.6em;}}
Happy editing! <!-- Template:Welcome--> — <kbd><span style="color: blue">void</span><span style="color: black">xor</span></kbd> 14:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Thank you very much, voidxor. I am deWP user for 20 years and you will meet me, when my changes affect more than the german version. --NDG (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
For future reference
If you come across an account which violates the username policy ↗, you can report them here ↗. Thank you for your vigilance. <span style="color: blue">Lynch</span><span style="color:#FFD700">44</span> 13:37, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
:Thank you very much Lynch44, as a german CVU I am learning about the local policys of the enwp for the last days. This helps me to orientate myself, especially because we deal with almost everything about vandalism reports in the dewp. NDG (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Klemperer and Nazis Killing Jewish Pets
Hi. You rightly undid my edit on "Animal welfare in Nazi Germany" ↗ (I had looked at the Klemperer source for relevant information on page 52, and hadn't found anything--but I had mistaken page 52 of the Internet Archive scan for page 52 of the original document, which has 19 fewer pages so, so I got the wrong page) but your summary was "unexplained content removal." I obviously explained my content removal. I was just wrong. BeatrixGodard (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
Tomax and Xamot ↗
Listen to me. That section is effectively unsourced and WP:INDISCRIMINATE ↗. Is it really worth keeping? 2605:B40:1302:6C00:7803:E3E3:4CB:D66B ↗ (talk) 14:10, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
:You removed a source. Please use the article's diskussion, to discuss on any issues which are related to an article. Thank You. NDG (talk) 14:14, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Temporary account IP viewer granted
right|80px|alt=The temporary account IP viewer logo, composed of the Wikipedia globe with a user and an IP address ↗
Hello, NDG. Per your request, your account has been <span class="plainlinks">granted ↗</span> '''temporary account IP viewer ↗''' rights. You are now able to reveal the IP addresses of individuals using temporary accounts ↗ that are not visible to the general public. This is very sensitive information that is <strong>only</strong> to be used to aid in anti-abuse workflows. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer ↗ for more information on this user right. It is important to remember:
- You must not share IP address data with someone who does not have the same access permissions unless disclosure is permissible as per guidelines listed at Foundation:Policy:Wikimedia Access to Temporary Account IP Addresses Policy ↗.
- Access <strong>should not</strong> be used for political control, to apply pressure on editors, or as a threat against another editor in a content dispute. There must be a valid reason to investigate a temporary user. Note that using multiple temporary accounts is not forbidden, so long as they are not used in violation of policies (for example, block or ban evasion).
- When a user accepts the preference that enables or disables IP reveal for their account.
- Revealing an IP address of a temporary account.
- Listing the temporary accounts that are associated with an IP address or CIDR range.
:Thank you very much @Salvio! NDG (talk) 12:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Rollback granted
right|130px ↗
Hi NDG. After reviewing your request, I have <span class="plainlinks">enabled ↗</span> '''rollback ↗''' on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:
- Being granted rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle ↗ or Ultraviolet ↗. It just adds a ''[rollback]'' button next to a page's latest live revision. It does not grant you any additional "status" on Wikipedia, nor does it change how Wikipedia policies apply to you.
- Rollback should be used to revert <em>clear and unambiguous cases</em> of vandalism {{emu|only}}. <em>Never</em> use rollback to revert good faith edits. For more information about when rollback is appropriate, see {{section link|Wikipedia:Rollback|When to use rollback}}.
- Rollback should never be used to edit war ↗, and it should never be used in a content-related dispute to restore the page to your preferred revision. If rollback is abused or used for this purpose or any other inappropriate purpose, the permission will be revoked.
- Use common sense. If you're not sure about something, <strong>''ask!''</strong>
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hi NDG. Thank you for your work on DJI Avata ↗. Another editor, Kudpung, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol ↗ and left the following comment:
{{Bq|1=You must include the attribution to the German Wikipedia which you translated this from.}}
To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{code|<nowiki>{{Re|</nowiki>Kudpung<nowiki>}}</nowiki>}}. <small>(Message delivered via the Page Curation ↗ tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)</small><!-- Template:Sentnote-NPF -->
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
:Hello {{Re|Kudpung}} as far as I know, I only have to do this for copyright reasons, right? NDG (talk) 10:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
:Per Wikipedia:Copyrights ↗: ''If you reuse text which you created '''yourself''', the above may still be a good idea to avoid confusion, but it '''isn't mandatory.''''' As I am very familiar with copyright regulations, I have not imported the texts into either DJI Avata ↗ or DJI Neo ↗, as I consider this to be unnecessary work for the import administrators. NDG (talk) 11:22, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
::I am not an expert on copyright, and very few experienced Wikipedians are. However, as one of this Wiki's most experienced New Page Reviewers, I have to err on the side of caution, and as an almost native speaker of German it was immediately obvious to me that this is a translation. That said, once an article has been published, its author no longer owns it: Wikipedia:Ownership of content ↗, and attribution is required: Help:Translation#Attribution ↗. To avoid any future issues with your work, I strongly recommend adding the 'translated' template to the en.Wiki talk page of any articles you have written on de.Wiki and translated here. It only takes a moment. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
:::I have put the template on both articles talk pages. Ownership does not mean authorship. Since I am the author in dewiki, the attribution has no consequences. I would only do this for articles that I have written entirely myself. Spelling corrections are not considered sufficient creative work, which is why I do not attribute my colleagues. This is not to disparage their work, but to avoid unnecessary version imports. NDG (talk) 06:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Guide to temporary accounts
Hello, NDG. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.
'''Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed.''' Instead, they will have a '''temporary account ↗''' (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer ↗ (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.
'''How do temporary accounts work?'''
thumb|350px|Editing from a temporary account ↗
- When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern: <code>~2025-12345-67</code> (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
- All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
- A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer ↗ (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
- As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
- * There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
- * There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.
'''Temporary account IP viewer user right'''
thumb|350px|How to enable IP Reveal ↗
- Administrators may grant the '''temporary account IP viewer ↗''' (TAIV) user right to non-administrators who meet the criteria for granting ↗. Importantly, an editor must make an explicit request for the permission (e.g. at WP:PERM/TAIV ↗)—administrators are <strong>not</strong> permitted to assign the right without a request.
- Administrators will <em>automatically</em> be able to see temporary account IP information once they have accepted the Access to Temporary Account IP Addresses Policy ↗ via Special:Preferences ↗ or via the onboarding dialog which comes up after temporary accounts are deployed.
'''Impact for administrators'''
- It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock ↗ option.
- It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
- Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions ↗, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions ↗ for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).
'''Rules about IP information disclosure'''
- Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally ↗ not allowed (e.g. {{!tq|~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1}} or {{!tq|~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1}}).
- Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g. {{tq|~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR ↗}}, but not {{!tq|Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67}})
- See {{section link|Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer|What can and can't be said}} for more detailed guidelines.
'''Useful tools for patrollers'''
- It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card ↗, available in {{Preferences|Appearance|Advanced options|check={{int:checkuser-userinfocard-enable-preference-description}}}}
- * This feature also makes it possible for anyone to see the approximate count of temporary accounts active on the same IP address range.
- Special:IPContributions ↗ allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
- Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions ↗ supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
- The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.
'''Videos'''
<gallery>
Temporary Accounts demo - IP Contributions.webm|How to use Special:IPContributions
Temporary Accounts demo - IP Auto-reveal.webm|How automatic IP reveal works
Temporary Accounts demo - IP Information.webm|How to use IP Info
Temporary Accounts demo - User Info Card.webm|How to use User Info
</gallery>
'''Further information and discussion'''
- For more information and discussion regarding this change, please see the announcement from the Wikimedia Foundation at {{section link|Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF)|Temporary accounts rollout}}.
<!-- Message sent by User:SGrabarczuk (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SGrabarczuk_(WMF)/sandbox/MM/Varia&oldid=29546400 -->
ArbCom 2025 Elections voter message
<div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; ">
<div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;flex-basis: 40px">40px ↗</div>
<div class="ivmbox-text">
Hello! Voting in the '''2025 Arbitration Committee elections ↗''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2025|end}}-1 day}}. All '''eligible users ↗''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2025 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2025|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:00, 18 November 2025 (UTC)</small>
</div>
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2025/Coordination/MM/08&oldid=1322758940 -->
A barnstar for you!
{| style="background-color: var(--background-color-success-subtle, #fdffe7); border: 1px solid var(--border-color-success, #fceb92); color: var(--color-base, #202122);"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | 100px ↗
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for your hard work. <span style="color:#39C5BB"><span lang='ja'>浅村しき</span></span> (<span style="color:#FFA500">talk</span> ↗) 10:16, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
|}
:Thank you very much @ShuQizhe! I really appreciate that. Looks like we hardly got out of the risky situation on eowiki. It would not be the first time, that one of their sysops blocks a SWMT member. NDG (talk) 10:49, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
You've got mail!
{{You've got mail|subject=About eowiki|ts=15:11, 6 February 2026 (UTC)}}
<span style="color:#39C5BB"><span lang='ja'>浅村しき</span></span> (<span style="color:#FFA500">talk</span> ↗) 15:11, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
:OK, I see, thanks for your reply.
:Alright then — next time I’m doing patrols, I’ll just exclude eowiki in SWViewer as well (the other one is zhwiki).
:In any case, here’s hoping our future anti-vandalism work goes smoothly! <span style="color:#39C5BB"><span lang='ja'>浅村しき</span></span> (<span style="color:#FFA500">talk</span> ↗) 03:22, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
You've got mail!
{{You've got mail|subject=Regarding Your Edits on swwiki|ts=11:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)}}
<span style="color:#39C5BB"><span lang='ja'>浅村しき</span></span> (<span style="color:#FFA500">talk</span> ↗) 11:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hi @ShuQizhe everything ist finde, I will answer in detail soon. NDG (talk) 11:27, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::Alright, I’ve received your email. I was busy with other things quite early yesterday and didn’t check anything on-wiki. I’ve replied to you now — please have a look.
::Also, that email address is the one I usually use to receive messages from wiki-related sites, so feel free to contact me there anytime if needed. <span style="color:#39C5BB"><span lang='ja'>浅村しき</span></span> (<span style="color:#FFA500">talk</span> ↗) 08:25, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Ukrainians spelling
Hello, NDG! Maria (from the article about Taras Shevchenko) is a wrong transliteration. Officially, it should be spelled with a „y“.
I’m not sure why my changes on the Antonov article were reverted. The state language in Ukrainian SSR was Ukrainian since 1989 (and its cities were spelled in Ukrainian even sooner because the sign for Chornobyl, for example, was written in Ukrainian since its construction in 1970) so even spelling a „Soviet“ city in russian makes no sense. I’m looking forward to hearing your arguments on the matter, either from the historical or linguistic perspective. Or technical Kyiv ↗ Lizazazaza (talk) 22:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
:@Lizazazaza I just saw your contributions at dewiki including all your personal attacks. I think further discussion might be unnecessary. NDG (talk) 22:09, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
::It is necessary. There’s no reason to call Kyiv, Ukrainian SSR Kiev unless you want it to be occupied by russia, with its citizens raped and murdered. Am I wrong? I didn’t hear zero arguments against it neither here nor in dewiki. Lizazazaza (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
:::„ However, a move discussion closed on 16 September 2020 resulted in that article being moved to the title "Kyiv", following a documented shift in usage in English-language media.“
:::Thanks for proving my point(s) Lizazazaza (talk) 22:35, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
::::''For any edge cases, or in case of doubt or dispute, an RfC or move request debate is recommended.'' NDG (talk) 22:39, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
Centralizing feedback
Hi @NDG,
I've responded to your notes on the various pages and acknowledge the issue you flagged. One small request if possible - if you have further concerns, would you mind centralizing them on one talk page going forward? It would help me address everything in one place rather than across multiple editions. No issue with the substance of your feedback, just a practical request. Thanks! GeoDin Editor (talk) 12:44, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
:Well, you spammed that AI-slop x-wiki. I am just cleaning that mess up. Please abstain from creating AI-generated promotional pages. Thank you. NDG (talk) 12:46, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: :User:Jforero31241/sandbox/ ↗
Hello NDG, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of :User:Jforero31241/sandbox/ ↗, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Sandbox content is not required to be in English and no evidence provided this is AI generated. You may wish to review the WP:CSD{{!}}Criteria for Speedy Deletion ↗ before tagging further pages. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 19:06, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
:Thanks, Wikipedia:Speedy deletion#G15. LLM-generated pages without human review ↗ states AI-generated content as a reason. NDG (talk) 19:10, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
:@Whpq ''Kurze zusammenfassende Einführung in das Thema. Der erste Absatz erklärt, was das Thema ist, in welchem Kontext es steht und warum es relevant ist. Die Einleitung enthält keine Meinungen oder wertende Aussagen, sondern nur überprüfbare Informationen.'' is clearly a LLM answer to the prompt. NDG (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
::Okay. I will delete this per WP:G15 ↗. In the future, you should provide evidence that G15 is met when applying the speedy deletion tag. -- Whpq (talk) 19:25, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Well, that's the issue with other languages, you need to translate that. I hoped that you could see that Wikiext was copied into the visual editor which is also at least a small indicator for LLM usage. NDG (talk) 19:28, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
::::I see all manner of badly formatted text, and it really isn't an indicator of LLM usage. FWIW, I've seen that sort of stuff pasted in since before the introduction of LLM. -- Whpq (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::Since the use of LLMs has increased, texts with many nowiki-tags are seen more frequently. These are copied into the visual editor and, as mentioned, are a weak indicator of LLM usage. NDG (talk) 19:43, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
Username report
Hello. Regarding {{diff2|1358550371|your report}} of the account "Fahrradmonteur.de" at WP:UAA ↗, it turns out that this is a legitimate use ↗ of an alternate account. This account had no edits to English Wikipedia, and was just being used for uploads to Wikimedia Commons. --Drm310 <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
:Hi @Drm310 even when it this a legitimate sock, the username is promotional for a website. NDG (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
::I consulted with another admin about that. There's nothing actionable unless the account also makes promotional edits on English Wikipedia. The username by itself isn't enough to warrant a block. --Drm310 <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (talk) 16:19, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
Error in der deWP
Ich bekomme gerade nur folgende Fehlermeldung in der deWP
[8a739e1c-d5a4-4296-b7fe-f9b949c92484] 2026-07-09 08:30:12: Fataler Ausnahmefehler des Typs „Error“
Hast Du eine Ahnung, was da passiert sein könnte? Grüße vom Sänger ♫ <sup> (talk ↗)</sup> 08:32, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
:Dito, ich höre mal nach NDG (talk) 08:33, 9 July 2026 (UTC)