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If you've never seen...


. . .''Veiled Christ ↗'', a statue in Italy that depicts a knobbly-kneed Christ in the tomb, please give the image two or three clicks. This almost unbelievable 1753 sculpture ("how'd he do that?"), carved from one piece of marble, has one of only two Wikipedia article's which have to prove, with sources, that the artwork was not the work of an alchemist. Step right up, and don't miss the modern looking couch, the two tasseled pillows, or the crown of thorns and other torture things down by the feet. All carved from a single block of marble.

Literally steps away ↗ from ''Veiled Christ'' sits another "how'd he do that?" sculpture ↗, also carved from a single block of marble (or created by alchemy).

p.s. While writing aloud about impossible statues carved ↗ from one piece of rock ↗...who can forget flowers made of glass ↗!

One of life's pleasures


Watching Secretariat ↗ run his 1973 Triple Crown races in order while knowing three things: 1) Secretariat's trainer and jockey realized only after the second race that he could run full speed from start to finish. 2) Even though they had drastically held their horse back during the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, running in last place in both, Secretariat still holds the fastest time in all three Triple Crown races. 3) Sham ↗ - the horse Secretariat trashed like a dancing bear in the Kentucky Derby - still holds the Derby's second fastest time.

Here's the 1973 Kentucky Derby...Secretariat's jockey holds him back...holds him wayyyy back while in last place ↗. Next the Preakness...holds him back...last place and again must go to the outside ↗ And then: the Belmont..."He is moving like a tre-men-dous machine" ↗.

Vandal masterpiece...



An IP wedding proposal


July 8, 2022: during three edits in three minutes an IP proposes marriage on the same page as the above masterpiece, creating his own ↗. Wikipedians have a romantic side, even the bots, so nobody reverted until I did after two hours with a note saying that it should be enough time, and wished him luck. Does anyone know of an earlier proposal on Wikipedia, especially on such an appropriate page and so perfectly played out - he seemingly decides to marry her right there, between two edits. Film scene scenario worthy (Hallmark, are you listening?).

This one time at band camp I vandalized a page


The docents ask people: "Find the cat" ↗. Letting the coolness of it lead me to break my oath as a Wikipedian, I now self-identify as a vandal. (in other vandal news, in 2023 an IP spent a great deal of time removing all the vowels from several articles. Wh ddn't thnk f tht? ↗).

Always interesting


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See and listen to Wikipedia edits as they occur ↗. Designed by Stephen LaPorte and Mahmoud Hashemi of hatnote.com, the link was copied from a user page, don't remember where, but deservedly displayed on quite a few as well as having its own article ↗. Just who is making all this noise? Well...

...the size of our stadium


Here is Paine Ellsworth's subpage about how many Wikipedians ↗ can dance on the head of a pin.

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A barnstar for you!



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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Salutations to the "smallest known dinosaur ↗, bee hummingbird ↗" guy. <span style="background-color: #F2CED4; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS; color: RoyalBlue">Go D. Usopp</span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">(talk)</span></span> 08:27, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
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:Thank you {{u|Go D. Usopp}}, a nice surprise. '''You'd think that the information that the bee hummingbird ↗ is the smallest known dinosaur would be higher on the page, and important enough to go into the lead'''. The wording that editors added to carefully explain that birds are dinosaurs seems undue. Brevity could trim the sentence to its basics and move it up the page, it does not need to carefully explain to the readers that birds are what they are. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:33, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you!



I wanted to thank you for fixing my mistake in the Soviet space dogs article. I accidentally removed "see also" and didn't notice. It would have been bad if it stayed unnoticed for a while, so thank you for noticing and fixing it quickly! Vicccqh7 (talk) 12:08, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, thanks {{u|Vicccqh7}}, and thanks for your nice (and plentiful) work on the article. I haven't checked all your edits but am assuming that they are fine since nobody is reverting. Animals in space, of all kinds, are many of the early pioneers of the Space Age and always good to see somebody improving any of those pages. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:42, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Paris Salon



I could swear we had templates, footers, and categories devoted to the Paris Salon ↗, but I just had a gander, and could find nothing. Were they all deleted? Now, there's no way to look at a list or category of all of the known Salon articles or to see what needs to be created. Am I misremembering or were these all deleted? Forgive me if I'm just traversing the multiverse from one universe to another. I get them mixed up. Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

:One possible prosaic explanation is that I'm mixing it up with Commons (if these things even exist over there). Viriditas (talk) 23:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
::Hi {{u|Viriditas}}. Am not recalling any navboxes about the Paris Salon, and none of the variations I just looked up have been created and then deleted. You may have a navbox project to render! Randy Kryn (talk) 23:35, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
:::A related category :Category:Salon de peinture et de sculpture ↗. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::Should have put this one here as well :Category:Artworks exhibited at the Salon ↗, but yes, {{u|Viriditas}}, a good navbox would be well distributed. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::I will leave that in your hands, flippers, claws, or tentacles. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::If you're at all interested, we could use an article on the Salon of 1889 ↗. You wouldn't have to add too much. The Internet Archive has the entire official brochure online.https://dn720001.ca.archive.org/0/items/salonof1889onehu00lafe/salonof1889onehu00lafe.pdf ↗ And obviously, tons of secondary sources elsewhere. Viriditas (talk) 22:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Hello {{u|Viriditas}}. A navbox is possibly important for this topic, as readers interested in the Paris Salon would be offered quick links. Your hands are adequate for its constructing, as you are obviously being called by the muses to do it! Randy Kryn (talk) 08:33, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Not my thing, but if it interests you, go ahead and have at it! Viriditas (talk) 22:10, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::But, {{u|Viriditas}}, the Muses! They point their flippers in your direction. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:12, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::I have communed with the Nereids ↗. They say to send their regards and to avoid Booking.com Viriditas (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{u|Viriditas}}, see Salon des Refusés ↗ for works rejected by the Salon (but not rejected by the Muses). Randy Kryn (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Help with wiki page on Seville Statement on Violence



Dear Randy,

Almost ten years ago you helped me enormously to formulate my personal page (David Adams-Peace Activst) and the page for the culture of peace according to the wiki guidelines. Those pages remain very relevant, especially given the wars around the world at this moment of history.

In a similar spirit, I would like to add the following information to the page on the Seville Statement on Violence, but your colleague Sphilbrick has pointed out to me that it is not a good idea that I enter this myself, and it would be much better if it were re-edited and introduced by a wiki editor.

The book History of the Culture of Peace is my own copyright, self-published on Createspace (Kindle Publishing) of Amazon and is available on my website.

I wrote the article on women warriors . Although the publisher holds the copyright, I received permission from them to reprint a copy freely availabe on my website.

Would you have the time and interest to edit and enter the following?

Thank you for your consideration.

David Adams (adams1peace)

One of the Seville signatories, David Adams ↗, replies to the preceding criticisms by contending that the origins of human war are better explained by culture than by biology.

According to Adams, by the end of prehistory, the culture of war <ref>{{Cite web |title=Warfare in prehistory and its usefulness |url= https://www.culture-of-peace.info/books/history/prehistory-war.html |access-date=2026-06-14 |website=www.culture-of-peace.info}}</ref> was probably pervasive, judging by archaeological evidence. The best hypothesis is that ritual warfare was maintained by most societies and, in the long run, this prepared them to survive otherwise catastrophic famines by raiding the supplies of other communities, or defending their own supplies at such a time. This is supported by cross-cultural anthropological data showing a strong correlation between the frequency of warfare in non-state societies and the frequency of unpredictable natural disasters.

The culture of war included both psychological preparation for war through myths, rituals and traditions and physical preparation through the regular practice of combat, ranging from sporting competitions and initiation rites to ritual warfare and periodic raids and feuds.

Adams also contends that the exclusion of women from war <ref>{{Cite web |title=Why there are so few women warriors |url= http://www.culture-of-peace.info/women/title-page.html |access-date=2026-06-14 |website=www.culture-of-peace.info}}</ref> is better explained by culture than by biology. Evidence supports the hypothesis that women were excluded from the planing and execution of war because the pervasive practice of patrilocal exogamy put them in the difficult position of having their husband on one side and their fathers and brothers on the other side of a conflict.

With the development of the state, the culture of war at the dawn of recorded history <ref>{{Cite web |title= War and the culture of war at the dawn of history |url= https://www.culture-of-peace.info/books/history/dawn-of-history.html |access-date=2026-06-14 |website=www.culture-of-peace.info}}</ref> was greatly elaborated. We know a great deal about this culture from ancient manuscripts. Adams1peace (talk) 14:54, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
:Hello David ({{u|Adams1peace}}, good to hear from you again. Will have a look at this soon, likely later today or tomorrow. Interesting work and topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:04, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
::{{u|Adams1peace}}, from what I read this would have to be trimmed quite a bit as the size seems undue for the topic. Just one understandable paragraph should cover what you wish to add. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Thank you very much for your consideration, Randy.
:::What do you think of the following paragraph?
:::One of the Seville signatories, David Adams ↗, replies to the preceding criticisms by contending that the origins of human war are better explained by culture than by biology. According to Adams, by the end of prehistory, a culture of war <ref>{{Cite web |title=Warfare in prehistory and its usefulness |url= https://www.culture-of-peace.info/books/history/prehistory-war.html |access-date=2026-06-14 |website=www.culture-of-peace.info}}</ref> was probably maintained by most societies. This prepared them to survive otherwise catastrophic famines by raiding the supplies of other communities, or defending their own supplies at such a time. This hypothesis is supported by cross-cultural anthropological data showing a strong correlation between the frequency of warfare in non-state societies and the frequency of unpredictable natural disasters. The culture of war would have included both psychological preparation for war through myths, rituals and traditions and physical preparation through the regular practice of combat, including sporting competitions, initiation rites, ritual warfare and periodic raids and feuds. Adams1peace (talk) 14:46, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::::{{u|Adams1peace}}, nice work, that seems to summarize your position well. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:56, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, Randy. Can I re-install this on the wiki page? Do I have to say that I hold the copyright? Adams1peace (talk) 16:59, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Adams1peace}}, that I'm not sure of, you can add it and then discuss it on the article's talk page if it's reverted. I'll keep it page watched, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you again, Randy. I hope I am not taking too much of your time. When I tried to add the above text, I got an automatic reply that said, "Script warning: {cite journal}: this reference has maintenance messages; messages may be hidden (help).
:::::::Here is the citation that I included: <ref>{{Cite web |title=Warfare in prehistory and its usefulness |url= https://www.culture-of-peace.info/books/history/prehistory-war.html |access-date=2026-06-18 |website=www.culture-of-peace.info}}</ref>
:::::::Is this not correct? Adams1peace (talk) 04:21, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::{{u|Adams1peace}}, not sure. I'm certainly not an editor to ask about the tech side of things. Thanks for following up on your edit. Always good to hear from you and the interesting topics that you both present and are involved in. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:03, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::It has been reverted again. I don't understand. Adams1peace (talk) 06:15, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Hi {{u|Adams1peace}}, just the process working. Now you can address the revert reason on the article's talk page where you've already said you hold a copyright. The revert reason was "copied from the source, page 176", so is the paragraph an exact copy or just the concepts outlined? Will await the discussion, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 07:40, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::What should I say on the talk page? Adams1peace (talk) 07:44, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{u|Adams1peace}}, maybe first check page 176 of your book that the editor mentioned to see what they are getting on about, and then ask them about, and discuss, the edit. If there is disagreement that can probably be worked out. Thanks for persisting. Randy Kryn (talk) 07:57, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::Page 176 in my book has nothing to do with this topic, so I don't know what Vermont means. Adams1peace (talk) 07:57, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::OK, I will just ask what this page 176 is referring to. Adams1peace (talk) 07:58, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It will be interesting to find out what the editor means. The wonders of Wikipedia! Randy Kryn (talk) 08:01, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Sorry, but I am mistaken since the pagination is different in the printed copy from the pdf copy. Indeed, I have quoted from page 176 of the Amazon printed copy. How is that a problem? Adams1peace (talk) 08:10, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Not sure, so discussing the issue on the talk page will sort things out. Randy Kryn (talk) 08:16, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I have asked on the talk page why this is a problem and how can it be remedied. Adams1peace (talk) 08:40, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::The process seems to have worked. I hope it holds up. Adams1peace (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Good. Sometimes Wikipedia embraces quickly, other times it takes some effort to find resolution. {{u|Adams1peace}}, always good to hear from you. You're one of the few people who've actually analyse "War, what is it good for?", and then share your findings with others. Nice work. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:21, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

Currency



I've changed it to "paper money". It would be useful to have a category for people apprearing on US coins too. Wehwalt (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2026 (UTC)
:Nice work {{u|Wehwalt}}. If the coin cousin-category isn't up already I'll start one and see where that goes. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2026 (UTC)
::I'll help out. It's probably not a huge category. Wehwalt (talk) 00:47, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::Thanks. Another editor has been adding some as well. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:53, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::::We've all put together 167 so far. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:08, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::And good work on :Category:People who have appeared on US paper money ↗, which now has 75 entries. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:36, 10 July 2026 (UTC)