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Nowraps in racing career summaries



Welcome! Just a note that we don't usually format the "series" column in "racing career summary" with {{code|nowrap}}, as this can extend the table beyond view, but we do with team names in individual series results, which typically extend out-of-view anyway. Thank you for sorting out some of the latter. '''<span style="background:#19543E; border:2px solid #19543E; color:white; padding:2px;">MB</span><span style="background:white; border:2px solid #19543E; color:#19543E; padding:2px;">2437</span>''' 23:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing of ATCC based pages



Please do not continue to add numbers to ATCC drivers pages on their career results. It makes it look messy and makes editing more tedious as we have to account for the tables now being bigger. The drivers numbers are already on the said years for the championship in question. If people wish to know the driver's number, they can go to the championship pages to see that Cmf25 (talk) 04:51, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

:Its one extra column out of 40 that are already there, I don't see how it makes the tables messy, particurly since they now have nowraps. The tables are too big anyway because of the amount of races, thats why I've made them scrollable. I'm adding numbers because that's what the other series where team numbers are present (NASCAR and Indycar) have done. SH814 (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
::No. Leave them how they are, or do not edit them at all. We have our methods that have worked with this system for years and it will not be changed. We've had the option to add numbers, We didn't want to do it. Supercars, MotoGP and F1 don't do it and for Supercars, we will not be doing it. If you want to do it for MotoGP or F1, take that up with the people who run those pages. You have been asked respectfully several times now not to and have not listened. Please listen. Cmf25 (talk) 08:21, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Who exactly is 'we'? And I've been asked, literally once by you and no one else. Who else is even objecting? Where is this grand commintee who makes these backward, set in their ways decisions? Can I take this up with them, if they even exist?
:::And why only edit two of the pages back? Why not all of the ones I did? Where is the consistency?
:::MotoGP and F1 don't do it because numbers go with the drivers not teams. Thats why I didn't use them as examples. Numbers in V8 Supercars are part of team identity same as in NASCAR and Indycar, the examples I actually used. SH814 (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
::::Your logic makes no sense. If the numbers are team identity, they have no place on a drivers page. They belong on a team page, which we have already done. There is no 'grand committee' as you say. The general community who works on the Supercars page and has done so for a long time is just smart enough to work out that we have a method in place that is not broken, and it does not need you to come along and fix something that doesn't need fixing. Some drivers ran several numbers in the earlier years. It looks like shit when you have to go and look at a result pages and there are 5 different columns for one year because a part time driver in the earlier Supercars years ran for a few different numbers. The colspan settings haven't even been done correctly either.
::::As to your question regarding why not edit them all back. Well it's simple. You have gone and edited every driver to as far back as 1996 from what I can see. Hence why it's disruptive editing. The tables look like shit and will now need to be tidied up. That takes time. The only thing the tables need is year, team, and car alongside the results. It keeps it simple for people to read and it keeps it nice and clean looking. You put a driver who ran let's say 6 as a regular number, then 5 for the enduros, then 100 for 100 race starts and then 60 for 60 years for their sponsor and you have one complete shitshow going on in the tables and then it looks stupid to try and find a result for a certain year. The NASCAR tables are an absolute disaster as it is when you try and find results for someone like Cody Ware of JJ. Yeley, who can sometimes run 7 different numbers. Cmf25 (talk) 14:18, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::If you want to edit stuff, that's fine. Use the templates that were already in place though. Don't just change them because you think they need to be. They do not. Cmf25 (talk) 14:19, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::So as I suspected. It is literally just you who has a problem with it, what a surprise. I'd love to know how I did the colspan setting wrong too. I do look over my work and it looks as it should have.
::::::And if numbers have no place on a driver page because of team-identity then why do the car models, or even the teams? Why not just show the driver's results?
::::::And where have I included one off tempory number changes for sponsors as you mention? I didn't bother because that's the sort of thing that should be put in tooltips. No one has had more than two number changes in a season from what I've done and usually its from a team change anyway. The impact on the 'tidiness' of the tables was minimal. And frankly the tables looked like shit before as there were no nowraps used or scroll-enabled. That's why I tried to improve them which isn't disruptive. Have you even bothered to ask what anyone else thought of the changes before you started trying to edit-war? Could have discussed it with me first or got second opinions before going behind my back undoing edits.
::::::The only thing wrong with NASCAR tables is the lack of nowraps used which squashes up the columns. The car numbers have naff all to do with it, most of them again happen through change of team.
::::::Anyway have fun putting all those tables back and being against change of any kind. I won't bother wasting my time with an editing war till I know some jumped-up prick won't undo my work. SH814 (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Regarding "Nowraps" in racing career summaries



Hello, I've noticed you've been using {{code|nowrap}} and I've reverted some as it could be disruptive to the page as nowrap it could extend the table beyond view. Not all team names need nowrap, and I would recommend avoiding its use on shorter names. – MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 11:53, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

:Well nice one. Now they are back to having some of the rows stretching out to ridiculous heights and team names being difficult to read. How about asking me why I put the nowraps in before undoing hours of work, there was a valid reason for me doing it. I appreaciate the disruption to the page they can cause so I'm prepared to make the tables scrollable as a comprosmise. But I'm not prepared to waste time with an editing war. SH814 (talk) 15:14, 13 April 2026 (UTC)