User Talk: Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah
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:ah, okay i understand. i thought that the portion i took was small enough, but apparently not. i'll try to be more careful from now on.
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30px|alt=Stop icon ↗ '''You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war ↗, according to the reverts you've made to :Fall of Constantinople ↗.''' This means that you are repeatedly reverting content back to how you think it should be, despite knowing that other editors disagree. Once it is known that there is a disagreement, users are expected to collaborate ↗ with others, avoid editing disruptively ↗, and try to reach a consensus ↗ – rather than repeatedly reverting the changes made by other users.
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:Hi R Prazeres,
:I am contacting you because User:Trabzonlu elhamdullah has completely ignored the warning you issued to them 6 days ago regarding edit warring and disruptive changes to the casualty numbers on the Fall of Constantinople ↗ article.
:Yesterday, they once again performed a blanket revert to wipe out well-researched, consensus-backed modern historical ranges that I had added, which were fully supported by standard academic citations (including specific ISBNs and page numbers).
:In place of established historical consensus, they have reinstated absurdly low, un-cited figures (3,600 Ottoman KIA and 840 Byzantine KIA). These numbers represent an extreme fringe interpretation or a selective misreading of isolated primary sources (such as tracking a single day's skirmish or a single elite unit), completely misrepresenting the actual scale of the 53-day siege and the subsequent three-day sack of the city.
:The editor's username ("Trabzonlu" referring to Trebizond/Trabzon and "Elhamdullah") strongly suggests a nationalistic, non-neutral point of view (POV) motivation behind these edits. They appear determined to sanitize the historical data to minimize Ottoman losses and downplay the intensity of the conflict, treating the article as a venue for regional/nationalist POV-pushing rather than an objective historical record.
:Given that this editor has shown blatant disregard for your recent warning and is actively engaging in a disruptive, single-purpose edit war to enforce an inaccurate version of the page, I kindly request that their edits be reverted to the sourced consensus version, and that appropriate administrative action or page protection be applied to prevent further disruption.
:Thank you for your time and assistance in maintaining the integrity of the article. Abdullah Sahbaz (talk) 10:13, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
::Alright, this is getting ridiculous now. Not only am I being called a Turkish nationalist, but I'm also being accused of a revert I didn't do, lol. Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
::As an observer of the disagreements in Talk:Fall of Constantinople ↗, this accusation torwards User:Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah is unfair, since he hasn't edited the page Fall of Constantinople ↗ since June 1st, and therefore did not ignore the warning.
::Also, he certainly is not a nationalist. His other contributions do not praise the Ottomans, and even the folk song he has in his profile comes from anti-Ottoman 20th century rebel groups from the region of Trabzon. So the accusation of nationalism is also unfair.Neoptolemos7 (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
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