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_______ was here (before I tidied up this up) [This isn't used often enough for an archive and I don't want it, I can use edit history]

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:Kept for shortcut purposes. Sorry if this causes any inconvenience-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Sources I'd like to use

Autopatrol

You mean to tell me autopatrol is something you have to ask for? Haha I never even realized I didn't have it. I thought it was something that came automatically, like autoconfirm. Lizard (talk) 08:30, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Lizard the Wizard}} Yes, I didn't realize it either until Jweiss recommended me. I was even more shocked that Corky didn't have it either until I nominated him. I suppose it must be because anybody can create a bunch of stubs or worthless articles that could meet the requirements just to have them all wind up deleted. However, you are diligently thorough when you create/overhaul articles. I noticed you didn't have that right and you met the requirements. So I figured might as well.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 12:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
::Is pcn still straw maning.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 12:42, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm physically incapable of doing things half-assed. That's why I haven't been doing the season articles campaign, I'd end up spending a week on a single season. It's a pain, really. I'm not sure what Comeaux's been doing lately. Right now I'm clashing with an editor over NPOV issues on David Carr (American football) ↗, which has been going on for months now. Lizard (talk) 18:48, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't like the single paragraph, add an infobox & navbox and run type mentality ↗, at least add schedule tables (create a standings template), and any NFL draftees to make it look like it'll pass AfD. Although, I've done that today on NDSU. I don't plan on doing just that, but it is a st(ub)art (oh goodness that is almost a pun). If there is an opposite to OCD that is what I am, but I like standardization so that is what I like to focus on in that regard. That is why my main focus is to look at what many people overlook, categories/standings templates, stuff I don't have to spend hours on cranking them out and I can bounce around to the next new thing. Obviously I care much more about D-II schools than most (mainly because I went to one), so that is why I am focusing on D-II champs. (started on current FBS schools getting to FCS.)UCO2009bluejay (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
{{od}} Have you thought about contributing to Nicholls State Colonels football ↗ and athletics in general recently?UCO2009bluejay (talk) 20:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
:Not really. The football team was pretty horrible while I was there. I think they won something like 2 games total in a three season stretch at one point. I'm a lifelong LSU fan, such that I even pulled for LSU when they played Nicholls in baseball and basketball. I just attended Nicholls because it was closer to home. Lizard (talk) 20:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
::To each their own. I noticed that even though DL has been gone for quite a while his talk page is still being messed with by IPs.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADirtlawyer1&type=revision&diff=735459401&oldid=735456027 ↗–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:36, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:::He was a divisive figure, but I admire his enthusiasm. His absence has definitely been felt. A huge blow to the project if he really is gone for good. Lizard (talk) 00:56, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I agreed with him over 95 percent of the time. He fervently argued his position, and when I wanted someone who could give me a blunt assessment of a situation, someone who would give me a straight answer even in the five percent of the time I didn't like his answer, I believe he had the project's best interest in mind. I don't like seeing legitimate editors receive fraudulent accusations, or in Corky and your case, become recipients of baseless accusations and attempts to boomerang credible charges (SPA) ↗. Kind of why I wanted projectwide elaboration on the WP:Commonname of ULL.–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:20, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
::::It's probably fair to say without DL I would've never taken such an interest in the greater football project. If you're at least vaguely familiar with Star Wars, he was the Qui Gon Jinn to my Anakin; only there for a brief period but left a large influence on me. I never planned on branching out further than LSU football articles, but here I am on stuff like Earl Campbell ↗ and Don Hutson ↗ and AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year ↗. I just hope if he does come back, he doesn't hate what I've been doing with infobox highlights. Lizard (talk) 06:37, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
{{od}}I originally just wanted to work with Oklahoma, but branched out bc of JW. I don't know if he will be back but if he does don't pull a Kylo.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 14:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:I just realized most of my created articles are indeed single paragraph, infobox, and run. I also just realized you were referring to Kylo Ren. I have yet to watch the 7th film. Lizard (talk) 17:11, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Lester Holt

This issue seems to be about what constitutes a sufficient reference. So let me give you an example of the point that I'm making: If a page was about global warming, and I added content to the page by pointing out that according to records kept by NOAA, the average global temperature went up by 1 degree in 2015, that is indeed a sufficient reference by use of an in-line attribution. I am not required to provide a link to the page of Government records where that is written. I've stated the reference and it is verifiable.

Corky has been made aware of that reasoning, yet persists in deleting the content, and that indicates bad faith.

Honestmedia (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you should indicate the source, and link to information proving they said it. Because how else would we know that in fact the NOAA made that statement. In line citations don't mean the space they are printed on without a footnote. Hell when I was in college even if you included an inline citation you would have to cite the source. This isn't a good faith issue, this is a procedural one. For instance, "NASA indicates there is life on the sun." The example in WP:Cite#In-text attribution ↗ gives an indication that you must link the source anyway.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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:Glad to see you're back to editing again! Enjoy the holiday! '''Corky''' 03:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

: {{Ping|Corkythehornetfan}} Thanks you too. UCO2009bluejay (talk) 21:09, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

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Cbl62 (talk) 18:17, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

: {{Ping|Cbl62}} Thanks you too. 35–21 ↗ UCO2009bluejay (talk) 21:09, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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Red River Showdown ↗

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Red River Showdown ↗

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ACM@UCO

Hi,

I am puzzled why you reverted my change:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Central_Oklahoma&oldid=prev&diff=987601167
I just thought it more informative to tell readers what "ACM" stands for. Do you disagree?

Chymicus (talk) 03:16, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

: {{Ping|Chymicus}}, see my most recent edit on that page.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Head coaching tables

UCO2009bluejay, hey, I noticed your edits to various head coaching tables to remove blank fields and otherwise condense. I have some reservations about this and I would like discuss at WT:CFB ↗ and get input from a few editors, hopefully. Can you pause on that effort for now? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 04:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
:I can for now. I honestly don't know what the issue is, or how it is any different than reducing parameters from an infobox, so we can discuss. The vast majority of it was getting rid of the poll parameter for unranked seasons, the bowl parameter for non-bowl seasons, erasing the conference standings parameter line when a team was an independent. In most of these tables it doesn't change anything aesthetically. I can see the argument for a few that it does, such as getting rid of the bowl seasons column when the coach never went bowling, or the conference column for a coach that was always with an independent program. I figured these had "off switches" for a reason. If anything doing this can stop (or make it harder) for random vandals to enter false information.–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 04:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

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Tulsa Oilers (disambiguation) ↗

If you'll read the page, you'll see that the Tulsa Oilers (IFL) ↗ are already mentioned at the header, in the sentence:

"The ECHL Oilers' ownership group also owns another team called the '''Tulsa Oilers ↗''', a professional indoor football team currently playing in the Indoor Football League."

So there's no need to list them twice with no further information as a bullet point. Tom Danson (talk) 13:01, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Tom Danson}} Since there is no WP:Primarytopic ↗ for the Tulsa Oilers, they should all be listed as bullet points instead. I am not going to die on this hill.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

New Jersey Generals Box

Hello, I recently saw that you edited the page New Jersey Generals ↗ and changed the schedule boxes into a more refined polished version. Could you please help me with something? Whenever I try to change the box color to New Jersey Generals it makes this only red box and doesn't show the one you created which is red and blue. Could you try to do it on the page 1983 New Jersey Generals Season ↗? Sorry for the disturbance, thank you! — Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by Americanbagel1 (talk • contribs ↗) 23:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC) 
:{{Ping|Americanbagel1}} The issue is the difference between the colors in Module:Gridiron color/data ↗ from the original Generals (New Jersey Generals ↗) and the current (New Jersey Generals (2022) ↗) colors. Since I am not a template editor, I cannot make the adjustments between 1983 and 2022/3.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
:Also please use season in lower case rather than upper case.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Capitalization of "NFL Draft"

UCO2009bluejay, per your recent edits at 1943 Colorado Buffaloes football team ↗ and the like, the D in "NFL Draft" should be capitalized. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 22:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:I overlooked that one.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 23:08, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for January 1

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Dale Earnhardt ↗, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page 2001 Harrah's 500 ↗.

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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Rogers State Hillcats basketball ↗

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Tables of NBA head coaching records

I appreciate you adding tables for multiple historic NBA coaches, examples being Wallace Jones ↗, Slater Martin ↗, Mack Calvin ↗, and Johnny McCarthy ↗. I happen to have some guide lists that you may be interested in. Over the last few years, I have been very mindful about adding basketball-related stat tables to the English Wikipedia, and I have made lists keeping track of the likewise progress that I and others have made with such tasks. Here is a sample of the lists I made which I believe would be useful resources relevant to your editing activity:

#NBA coach articles
#ABA coach articles
#NBA player articles
#ABA player articles

I have a total of eight such list guides, seven of which are related to basketball. If you so choose, I will gladly appreciate any contributions you give to helping these lists go down to zero entries. Thank you so much for your efforts around here! '''Mungo Kitsch''' ('''talk''') 07:53, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Mungo Kitsch}} These have been extremely helpful. Thank you for compiling these, as I know that it takes a lot of work to do so. You might want to glance over the NBA coaches list as there are a lot of coaches on that list who have tables. ;)-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:47, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

TfD you may be interested in

Given your participation in Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 January 27#NFL first season roster navboxes ↗, a new mass TfD was opened that you might be interested in. It is Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 February 6#CFL first season roster navboxes ↗. Thank you. SportsGuy789 (talk) 23:29, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Mercyhurst Lakers lacrosse ↗

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A barnstar for you!

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Heisman Trophy winners

Hi. I do not think we need to reach a consensus about how writing the line of the Heisman winner in the college football season infobox. It is already cleared in MOS:OL ↗: "Links may be excessive even if they are informative. For example, because inline links present relatively small tap targets on touchscreen devices, placing several separate inline links close together within a section of text can make navigation more difficult for readers, especially if they have limited dexterity or coordination". I just rephrased the sentence (MOS:SOB ↗).

The listing "college/position/player name" is pretty common, for example in this link ↗ you can read: "The honors keep rolling in for Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield."

So I think it is the best way to do this. Mehmed Ulyanov (talk) 05:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:See the discussion on WT:CFB ↗, if there is an established scheme, it is likely that way for a reason. Be bold but WP:BRD ↗ needs to be followed. Also, WP:OL ↗ doesn't apply, all you did was change the order, listing the college first, which might make sense in prose but not in a list. A player wins the Heisman, not the team.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

User Talk: UCO2009bluejay

_______ was here (before I tidied up this up) [This isn't used often enough for an archive and I don't want it, I can use edit history]

Sources I'd like to use

General

T. Holland

D. Hamilton

C. Langston

Howard

Autopatrol

Lester Holt

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Happy holidays!

Red River Showdown ↗

Red River Showdown ↗

ACM@UCO

Head coaching tables

Tulsa Oilers (disambiguation) ↗

New Jersey Generals Box

Capitalization of "NFL Draft"

Disambiguation link notification for January 1

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Rogers State Hillcats basketball ↗

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Incarnate Word Cardinals soccer ↗

Tables of NBA head coaching records

TfD you may be interested in

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Mercyhurst Lakers lacrosse ↗

Concern regarding Draft:1978 Southwest Missouri State Bears football team ↗

Concern regarding Draft:1979 Southwest Missouri State Bears football team ↗

Concern regarding Draft:1980 Southwest Missouri State Bears football team ↗

A barnstar for you!

Heisman Trophy winners