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The Moors Murderers Band


There are plenty of sources regarding Topper Headon's involvement in this band including this one in The Guardian ↗
<BR>https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/feb/13/steve-strange-banishing-of-the-mavericks-pop-musics-loss
<BR>Unknown Unknowns (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

And The Scotsman ↗
<BR>https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scotsman/20150214/282497182097295
<BR>Unknown Unknowns (talk) 14:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Reply to
<BR>Unknown Unknowns (talk) 14:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Please remove Topper Headon's name from this article. The newspaper articles you are referring to above are not reliable sources as they themselves do not refer to a reliable source. They repeat hearsay based on false statements possibly made by Tex Exile, aka Anthony Doughty. I refer to a Punk77 blog post: http://www.punk77.co.uk/groups/moors_murderers_the%20band.htm Please note that Topper Headon himself categorically denies his involvement in this band. The allegations are contentious as potentially defamatory.

I refer you to Wikipedia's policy on Biographies of living persons: WP:GRAPEVINE ↗ and removal policy: WP:BLPREMOVE ↗

82.71.39.132 ↗ (talk) 16:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)



Toft


Please go to the article talk page to discuss this further. You have already reverted four times on this and are therefore in breach of WP:3RR ↗. I'd strongly advise that discussion is the way forward on this now. - SchroCat (talk) 08:53, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

# I didn't edit the Albert Toft page on the 24/07/13 and I edited it twice on the 25/07/13. Please could you tell me how I have broken the 3-Revert rule?
# The term 'English' is unambiguous in the UK but in the USA (and other countries) it's used interchangably with 'British'. A disambiguation link is necessary.
# May I ask why you've suddenly taken an interest in the Albert Toft page? Almost all your other edits are cinema-related.
:Unknown Unknowns (talk) 11:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Unknown Unknowns reported by User:SchroCat (Result: ) ↗ - SchroCat (talk) 12:06, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


::I'm keeping an eye on SchroCat ↗ to make sure that he doesn't try this sort of thing again. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Lummis article



the merge was decided Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Canon_William_Lummis ↗ <--- here. <span style="font-family:comic sans ms;"><span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00;">'''Kwsn'''</span><sup><span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00; ">(Ni!)</span></sup></span> 16:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright



You sort of misformed the AfD when you made it, nothing major, happens to people on their first ones. Just give me a minute to do something else and I'll take a good look at it. <span style="font-family:comic sans ms;"><span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00;">'''Kwsn'''</span><sup><span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00; ">(Ni!)</span></sup></span> 12:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:I took at a look at it, and I must say, the second paragraph you had was a very good point. Also, for future reference, check out this section ↗ on how to list AfD's.

Invitation



Hello there

I see you are interested in the Life On Mars Television Series, as I am.

At the moment I have A Life On Mars Wikiproject currently up for approval by the Wikiproject Approval Council. As you are interested in Life On Mars I was wondering if you would be interested in adding your name and joining. If you are interested you can find it on Wikipedia: WikiProject Council/Proposals ↗ its right at the very bottom you cant miss it as its titled ‘Wikipedia: Wikiproject Life on Mars (Television Series)’. And after your name is added to Wikiproject propsals please add it to the main page Wikipedia:Wikiproject Life On Mars ↗

If you are interested by all means feel free to join

Regards

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February 2008



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The word 'denim' is derived from the French phrase 'serge de Nimes' (please see the article). I assume you have no objections if I reinstate it in the 'French words and phases' category? Unknown Unknowns (talk) 12:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm quite sorry; not sure why I reverted that, probably got confused with another edit. · <span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:black;">'''A'''''ndonic'''''O'''</span> <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:navy;">'''''Hail!'''''</sup> 13:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No kidding



Who are you suggesting doesn't know or hasn't read the denim ↗ article? - Denimadept (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

:Allstarecho when he reverted the original edit as 'vandalism', on the 5 February 2008. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 12:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

SAving private ryan



It's because they are notable in themselves - as someone had already told you ''They're notable pure and simple. If a soverign entity like the Republic of Ireland lends troops to participate in the filming of a movie that's notable. If members of a small hobby group get jobs as extras in a film that isn't.'' RI army doing something = notable, a few hobbists doing something = not. Unless Steve S said "I must have X involved in the film", then that would make them notable. --Fredrick day (talk) 12:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

:: Thanks for bring the page to my attention - looking at it, they don't seem notable to me - I'll AFD it a bit later, I expect it will be then be deleted - good job spotting that. I'd do it now but I'm setting up a new PC and don't have the concentration for it. --Fredrick day (talk) 13:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

:::So you removed a link from 'Saving Private Ryan' to another Wikipedia page without even reading it? How do you justify your administrator status? Unknown Unknowns (talk) 13:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

don't be a child



Get a blog if you want to do light comedy. --Fredrick day (talk) 11:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:I see you've been banned, at last. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 07:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Hitler


Source that ↗, please. And the song "Hitler has only got one ball" won't do it. Bishonen | talk 13:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC).
:The source is an article in The Daily Telegraph ↗ which states that Hitler was injured in the groin during WW1. I haven't reinstated the speculation about the lost testicle. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 08:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Aghadrumsee



I notice you have an interest in the townland of Aghadrumsee, may I ask why?

Also, if you are willing, Id like to ask for your help in expanding the articles of the local townlands, in and around Killyfole.

KDDA (talk) 16:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:I'm interested in the South Fermanagh area as I spent my early childhood there. Unfortunately I don't know much about the place so I restrict my activities to looking out for vanadalism, checking references, fixing links (etc). I hope you're successful in expanding these articles - some of them definitely need it!
:Unknown Unknowns (talk) 08:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I get the impression that the sysop's are not very happy with the information I'm posting as it is original research. The problem is that there is a severe lack of information regard this area and the KDDA want to change that. I originally thought that the wikipedia would be an ideal place to compile this local knowledge, before the the town-lands in Fermanagh are lost like in so many other places in Ireland. This allows many people to challenge the information, like the translation of Aghadrumsee. Please see this link ↗ I personally believe this translation, from "Aghadromsillagh" makes more sense. The reason for this is that there is also a "Coolnassillagh" in the area. I think over time, and the fact that the map makes at the time were translating it "as heard" the name has been corupted. The orginal name of "Aghadromsillagh" would mean "Field on the hillock of Sally trees"

Do you know anything about wikipedia templates?

KDDA (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

:I've never used Wikipedia templates but if you search for that text you'll find a page on them.

:I think the main thing with Wikipedia is that you should cite sources for what you write. I've changed the Aghadrumsee etymology section for that reason, better sourced material always takes precedence. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe both translations have equal merit and are both worth a mention. The fact is that whatever happened to the original name it has ended up as "Aghadrumsee", this could have been by purpose/design. Until evidence is found to contrary, both translation should be included. Whats your thoughts on this matter?

KDDA (talk) 17:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

:I agree so I've included the original text but made clear that it's only folklore. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 11:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I found Aghadrumsee referred to as "Black Dogs Lane"! There is a legend of a large black dog with huge flaming eyes. However, it didn't seem to do anything other then pick its victims up on its back and give them a terror-stricken ride normally throwing them off into mud or into a gorse bush! Its so called victims are normally intoxicated at the time. LMAO Its related to the fairy's you spoke of, as a fairy dog! I think its called "Cu Sìth", possibly a "Púca". Thought you might be interested in hearing that one.

KDDA (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks - the black dog myth ↗ is a fairly common one in the British Isles - and even Latin America! Unknown Unknowns (talk) 11:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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Your help



Hi again,

I don't know if your remember me talking about setting up another wiki. Well I have set one up and was wondering would you like to help out?

KDDA (talk) 23:47, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

:Please see your email. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 12:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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:The template was removed in good faith, please see the Neco talk page. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 09:38, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
::I see that. I have now reinstated the template to the page. --Biker Biker (talk) 10:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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:Please could you not nominate pages for speedy deletion unless they '''clearly''' violate Wikipedia's rules? This page did not and has been retained, but only because another editor intervened in time. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 19:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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Vespa on Indonesia



I added some stuff to Indonesia section of Vespa entry. Indonesian history of Vespa is rarely undocumented. Some blog wrote supposed to be a newspaper article, but I couldn't find the article on internet written by its own publisher.

My reference relied heavily on Flickr's collection of a Vespa Indonesia employee Pak Jorgen ↗ on his 1972-1976 Jakarta assignment.


A googling reveals:
:Flickr and blogs aren't reliable sources but I've added something based on the Tempo article. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 22:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your addition, this book ↗ on page 43 described more details about PT Danmotors Vespa Indonesia existence <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 180.243.53.81 ↗ (talk) 07:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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:Sorry, the information I added was already in the public domain. Martin Smith could have already taken legal proceedings against various websites (or lodged formal complaints with various universities and student bodies) if he had wished to dispute it. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 10:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
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::I just want to know two things: Why did you not contact me to ask about the status of the draft? It's obvious from my contributions that I'm an active editor, so I would have replied to your inquiry. And, more importantly, why did you do it? I didn't consider my draft to be finished and I wasn't ready to move it. I have spent years working on that article, and I was quite hurt to see that all my time and effort had been for nothing. - <span style="color:Purple; font-family:Arial;">'''JuneGloom07'''</span> <span style="color:Green; font-family:Times New Roman;">Talk</span> ↗ 00:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry for upsetting you. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort so I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. 5 albert square seems to have put things right now. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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