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Your pseudoscientific stuff will be deleted. Don't waste your time in wikipedia. There is enough gullible people elsewhere. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:05, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

What are we talking about? What contributes are you speaking of? I appreciate the tone, particularly
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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Marco Antonio Attisani ↗ (June 28)


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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS; font-weight: bold"><span style="color: red">Dr</span><span style="color: green">Strauss</span> <span style="color: maroon">talk</span></span> 12:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)</div><!--Template:Afc decline-->


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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Marco Antonio Attisani ↗ (March 5)


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Thank you Diannaa I will do it asap.
User:Vespro Latuna&nbsp;(talk) 01:49, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikilinks


Please do not insert wikilinks in mainspace articles to draftspace articles. You can add a redlink to the title the article will be at when published to mainspace, but not a direct link to the draft. I've removed the two you recently added to articles. Thanks, <span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span> 20:55, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Time-traveller UFO Hypothesis ↗ (November 2)


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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Time-traveler UFO Hypothesis ↗ has been accepted


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:Welcome, Vespro Latuna! I wanted to stop by to thank you for this article! We have needed an article on that topic or a long time now! I wanted you to know I added a link to you article in the UFO footer template, so the article is now linked to from a a variety of articles ↗. Thank you for your hard work, it's very appreciated! Feoffer (talk) 07:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis ↗ (November 19)


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:Thanks so much for your comment Robert McClenon, very useful. The previous version of the article about this topic was just a stab, a couple of sentences I believe. Hopefully the issue with the present draft will be fixed and this new version will be a renewed contribution to the subject. Vespro Latuna (talk) 06:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis ↗ (December 7)


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:Thanks for your suggestion BuySomeApples. Could you kindly be more specific? At present, there are 47 sources in this article and growing. Would it be possible for you to elaborate on what is the issue with the sources? Thanks. Vespro Latuna (talk) 05:56, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::Hi! The main issue is that there are still paragraphs of unsourced information and there are WP:EXTERNAL ↗ links in the prose. BuySomeApples (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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I removed a paragraph that you added to :Victor Vescovo ↗ because you cited a blog and two deprecated sources. Please see WP:RSPS ↗ to see the status on wikipedia of the sources that you cited. When you add a source to an article, it's a good idea to double-check it against that table. Keep in mind that ''not'' being listed on the table does not mean a source is necessarily reliable ↗. <span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span> 13:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you {{User|Schazjmd}} Timothy Gallaudet ↗ is very outspoken about his interest and involvement in the UAP topic, including government disclosure, so to me the fact that Vescovo publicly supporting him in this endeavour makes their unorthodox collaboration worth to mention. What would you suggest as the best practice for referencing a significant event like this one: two prominent public figures collaborating on a specific project that isn't covered by mainstream press? Vespro Latuna (talk) 11:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::The significance of any collaboration is in your personal judgement if reliable sources haven't covered it. Please see WP:BLPRS ↗, which states: {{tq|The material should not be added to an article when the only sources are tabloid journalism. When material is both verifiable and noteworthy, it will have appeared in more reliable sources.}} (Also, please use template:reply ↗ to mention other users on a talk page; don't copy and paste their signature. I've fixed that in your comment above.) <span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span> 14:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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Your draft was very helpful!


Hey Vespro Latuna. Thank you again for your work on Draft:Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis ↗. That's a tough topic, and it's easy to bite off more than you can chew: a LOT of different ideas are called "cryptoterrestial". In the draft, we're sort of all over the place: "Breakaway human civilizations" like Atlantis-Lemuria-Tibet, secret humanoid civilizations (like Shaver's deros), superhuman entities like Keel's Ultraterrestrials, Mac Tonnies's humanoids, and even classic cryptids like Mothman. It's winding up as a big jumble without sufficient sources, which is why others have rejected the draft.
Reading over your draft and some of the excellent sources you tracked down, it was clear to me that one of the narrowest subtopics merited its own well-sourced article: the space animal hypothesis ↗. I'm not particularly familiar with Tonnies's work or other 21st century authors, so I'd encourate yo to improve the section on his bio. My interest/expertise is mostly limited to 1947-52.
Thanks again for your draft and your work on Time-traveler UFO hypothesis ↗. Don't get discouraged by your draft not being accepted, topics like this are the brain surgery or rocket science of wikipedia editing -- it's hard to get right, but we need all the good-faith help we can get. Feoffer (talk) 08:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you for your kind feedback and words of encouragement, Feoffer! I just resubmitted the draft after cutting down some of sections with weaker sources. I appreciate you creating the space animal hypothesis ↗ article, well done on that one and great additions to the topic! I am slightly concerned that this will somehow slow down the review process for the cryptoterrestrial page since the 'space critters' theory is actually a subcategory of the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis but only the former has its own article, but I'm hoping it won't be a problem and that, on the contrary, it will give more solid ground for the draft to be accepted. I just linked your space animals article into the draft. You may have seen that a recent paper about the cryptoterrestrials from Harvard and Montana University professors made it on the news: they divide the hypothesis in 4 main categories. Would you suggest to do something similar for the article for clarity's sake? I will also look into expanding the specific section on Tonnies' bio. Thank you for your help. Vespro Latuna (talk) 21:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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