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False Accusations of N:POV and reverting good faith edits that improve neutrality and accuracy
You have the power to abuse Wikipedia policy and advance a narrative at the expense of honesty and accuracy. That doesn't mean you should. Please stop frivolous and counter productive reverts and administrative actions that don't have merit. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by ~2025-37919-82 ↗ (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
https://washingtonspectator.org/ufo-tales-falling-apart-after-hearings/
you shared this article and said: "Excellent analysis. Provides some decent framing for our article and includes some choice identifiers that we knew were there but were missing."
my question is did you actually read that article or were you just told to share it by others who have an agenda? It's clearly a purile propaganda piece and is not even pretending to have any legitimate arguments against what actual experts and scientists are saying about serious issues of national security. AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 14:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:you can redicule the subject but it only shows that you lack analytics skills and ignorant to facts. AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 14:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::But if you get paid for it, then that's a diferent story. I hope you do get paid for being this active on here. you gotta pay the bills somehow even if it means pretending to be ignorant. AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 14:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:::you're also putting your head in the sand:
:::https://defensescoop.com/2023/08/30/hicks-takes-direct-oversight-of-pentagons-uap-office-new-reporting-website-to-be-launched/
:::"When asked why she went all-in on prioritizing AARO as an element under her purview, particularly now, Hicks told DefenseScoop: “The department takes UAP seriously because UAP are a potential national security threat. They also pose safety risks, and potentially endanger our personnel, our equipment and bases, and the security of our operations. DOD is focusing through AARO to better understand UAP, and improve our capabilities to detect, collect, analyze and eventually resolve UAP to prevent strategic surprise and protect our forces, our operations, and our nation.” " AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 14:55, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::::this issue is getting exposed very soon. better start updating your resume man. AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 14:55, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:If anyone needs some cheap tinfoil, just let me know. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::Yes I think Deputy Secretary of Defense and Senate Majority leader need one. You're obviously a very sane person. Arrogance and idiocy of you people is amazing.
::https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-rounds-introduce-new-legislation-to-declassify-government-records-related-to-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-and-ufos_modeled-after-jfk-assassination-records-collection-act--as-an-amendment-to-ndaa AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 15:16, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:::If you think you're more qualified to comment on this than senators, Pentagon officials, long time intel officers, maybe you need to get your head out of your ass and borrow a brain. AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 15:18, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::::instead of being an NPC, why don't you learn how to read man? AlirezaMohammadpasand (talk) 15:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:::"you people"? <b>''<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">~Brant</span> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Crystals~</span>''</b> 03:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
: I would dance and be merry / Life would be a ding-a-derry ... ↗ JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
It never ceases to amaze me how ''angry'' UFO true believers are. jps (talk) 18:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
: Variations of the ex-government/military/science whistleblower/cluedropper continue to be successful in the UFOverse, probably because it's a formula that easily gets a lot of attention and is reinforced by credulous newstainment ↗. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::The cluedroppers' motivations are always so interesting to me. Graves and Loeb testified in the same meeting that paraded the Jaime Maussan hoax out in front of the Congress of Mexico. Unfortunately, I doubt I'll ever get the chance to ask them directly how they feel about that. jps (talk) 19:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::: Just my opinion: it's a mix of pathological belief, political opportunism, and profitable grift. But the noise created by all this is so loud that quietly stated facts like these never make it into our articles: To date, there has been no documented damage to a plane caused by a UFO. ↗ - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::::I find it easier to make sense of the politicians and the grifters, than I do to make sense of the apparent true believers. The person who left these messages here seemed so over-the-top to me, that I wondered if it were a troll instead of a believer. As jps said, the amount of anger seems out of balance with the actual situation. I guess some people come to have so much of their identity tied up with conspiracy theories that any threat to the theory is like a threat to their sense of self. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:02, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::Colavito pointed out that Loeb is using explicitly religious phrasings in some of his recent discussions about what he thinks "we" ''should'' be doing: https://twitter.com/JasonColavito/status/1704456430533611884 ↗ When seen from the same thinkspace as religious belief, I think I can begin to understand. Arguments over religion make the "vicious and bitter forms of academic politics" look positively pleasant, in my experience. jps (talk) 22:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::@ජපස @Tryptofish @LuckyLouie
::::::You guys think you can pass yourselves as intellectual simply by rediculing others and conforming to existing narratives and refusing to change your dogmatic views unless CNN or NYtimes tells you to. You guys are so obsessed with discrediting Grusch and others, yet you ignore all evidence they are presenting. You don't understand how government Intel agencies works and how classsifications work and yet you opine on it as if you know everything.
::::::If any of you actually wants to learn anything about it you can listen to this guy destroy everything you and Mick West, Colavito, Greenstreet and the rest of garbabge journalists say.
::::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJJM4YydWkI
::::::Now you can go ahead and childlishly resort to tell on me to administrators to ban me from posting here. You guys are not serious people and not here to have serious discussions as it only reveals how shallow your understanding of these issues are. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:26, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@Tryptofish You seem to be the one who has their identity tied to rediculing others. Not sure what conspiracy you are talking about but conspiracies usually don't get proposed into law by Senate Majority leader and several High ranking senator, intel officials, etc.
:::::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU&t=178s
:::::::https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-rounds-introduce-new-legislation-to-declassify-government-records-related-to-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-and-ufos_modeled-after-jfk-assassination-records-collection-act--as-an-amendment-to-ndaa AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::@ජපස you seem to be following Graves and others very closely. They are 100 times more honorable than you will ever dream to be. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::@ජපස you refer to me as a UFO true believer. Does that you mean you believe there is no intelligent life in a universe of two trillion galaxies? If so yes I am proud to not be as dumb as you. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:33, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::@LuckyLouie well I think you should probably find something else to do instead of following me around wikipedia and commenting on everything I post and reporting. Do you know you are acting like a stalker and a creep? AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::the only conspiracist here are you guys thinking that pople in high positions in government are credulous and crazy and are chasing ghosts. That a conspiracy. Not stating facts. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:37, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::@ජපස if 2024 NDAA and UAP disclosure amandement passes, you, Mick West and rest of clowns will be out of a job. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:38, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::from UAP disclosure amendment passed in senate:
:::::::::::::(4) Legislation is necessary because credible evidence and testimony indicates that Federal Government unidentified anomalous phenomena records exist that have not been declassified or subject to mandatory declassification review as set forth in Executive Order 13526 (50 U.S.C. 3161 note; relating to classified national security information) due in part to exemptions under the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2011 et seq.), as well as an over-broad interpretation of ‘‘transclassified foreign nu2 clear information’’, which is also exempt from man3 datory declassification, thereby preventing public disclosure under existing provisions of law AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::::You guys are paid "skeptics" and debunkers, if you're not paid then you're just lack analytic skills and don;t like to use your brains. AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::lastly I have news for you, in very short time, you will be embarrased beyond belief when All grusch's claims turn out to be true and I hope at that time you look back and realize what repulsive and uncivil behaviour you were showing AhmadrezaMohammadi (talk) 05:50, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::one of your friends deleted my post (says a lot about how confident you guys are in your logic) so I'm posting again: MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 14:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::If you guys have the higher logical ground, why bother constantly deleting my posts? Are you afraid of other people to see how dumb your arguments are? MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::{{tq|in very short time, you will be embarrased beyond belief when All grusch's claims turn out to be true and I hope at that time you look back and realize what repulsive and uncivil behaviour you were showing}} It's a very short time until the great day of reckoning, so why not just sit back and wait, secure in the knowledge that you will be proven right and the rest of the world will be be proven wrong. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::well it's because you can't keep your mouth shut and not talk about things you know nothing about. MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::it's really funny how you people feel like you can insult and redicule everyone and yet are so coward to hear their response and resort to blocking. MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:16, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::if you get out of your bubble and actually talk to people, you realize how dumb your arguments are. but no, let's just delete everything he says so we don't feel uncomfortable hearing the truth. MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::so is NASA also a conspiracy loving UFO true beliver for assigning a UFO director? MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::please tell your friend JOJO ANTHRAX to mind his/her own business and stop deleting my post MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::::it's so telling when people resort to deleting your posts when their argument has zero merit. MohammadrezaShajarian12 (talk) 15:24, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Why not just wait until the grand revelation comes to pass. Because it certainly will happen, won't it? And it won't be long at all. And when it happens, you can come back and say "I told you so" and be triumphantly vindicated. Until then, it's a huge waste of your energy to try to convert unbelievers. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
thumb ↗
:well well well. looks like we're getting somewhere.
:this morning a democrat and a republican are saying that DOD IG has told he can't talk to them about Grusch's claims because the don't have the clearence to hear about them!!
:https://twitter.com/DCNewsPhotog/status/1717568794363584891
:but I'm sure there's nothing to worry about right? Unknown craft are showing up in restricted airspace and even members of congress can't get information because they don't have clearence. Now Let's go back to rediculing the subject and Grusch. Akram-rahimi3 (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
::congressman question: do we have aliens?
::DOD IG: sir I can't talk about this because you don't have clearence to hear about them.
::REP: who has clearence?
::IG: can't tell you that either.
::JPS and luckylouise conclusion: Grusch is crazy and he must be wrong =))) Akram-rahimi3 (talk) 16:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:::JPS: it's all a hoax! the reason DOD IG can't talk about Grusch is because he doesn't want to scare reps with scary stories of vampires and warevolves! that all makes sense now. after all vampire stories are classified at Top secret and above. Akram-rahimi3 (talk) 16:55, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
::::LuckyLouie: it's all a distraction! They want to distract Netanyahu from Killing palestinians. They should kill as many of them as possible ASAP. Don't get distracted by these vampire stories and little green men. Kill Kill Kill! Akram-rahimi3 (talk) 16:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:::::who cares if somehow nukes are getting deactivated and activated by unknown objects and no one wants to give any answers to even congresspeople? obviously what's in Hunter Biden's laptop is more important. Akram-rahimi3 (talk) 17:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Blanking/redirect of Multiplicity (psychology) ↗
Not objecting to the outcome, objecting to the way you went about it. Care to WP:AFD ↗ it instead so it's not a unilateral action? lizthegrey (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
:See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Multiplicity (psychology) (2nd nomination) ↗ which I took the liberty of nominating on your behalf. For what it's worth, I think you're right to redirect/merge the article but think it should go to Multiplicity (subculture) ↗ instead of to DID. Curious to hear your feedback. lizthegrey (talk) 02:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
AT & Neutral POV
Awww so you are advocating that MBSR should have the alt med banner, I get it now. Thanks. Sgerbic (talk) 00:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AT should get the mindfulness banner. MBSR is often practiced by psychiatrists... There are a lot of good papers on it. 2600:4040:9121:B00:7156:F061:F313:FFBC (talk) 13:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you actually read this talk page? We have been waiting for a very long time for those "good papers on it" and you say there are "a lot"? Why then do we keep getting papers suggested that aren't good. Bring on the "good papers"! Sgerbic (talk) 16:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
These comments were excluded from the conversation; your decision seems hasty and hasn't collected enough facts about the situation, in my opinion. 2600:4040:9142:D700:8890:E83C:FA02:832E ↗ (talk) 16:29, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
:I encourage you to get an account if for no other reason than it makes dealing with controversy easier on this website. jps (talk) 17:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Edit-warring
Hi! What possible purpose do you think could be served by edit-warring at :Domestic Muscovy duck ↗? Please self-revert your last edit and start a talk-page discussion instead. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:50, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
:I'll let other handle this. I have reported the dispute to WP:FTN#Muscovy duck ↗. jps (talk) 11:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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I am glad to get more editors editing and strengthening Zoonotic origins of COVID-19 ↗, but there are serious problems with the way you are currently approaching it. You appear to be disregarding the content of sources and Wikipedia policies on the basis that the article does not conform to your personal beliefs. Furthermore, several of your comments and edit summaries have been uncivil. This edithttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zoonotic_origins_of_COVID-19&diff=prev&oldid=1187184638 ↗ is the most particularly problematic with respect to content and conduct. Also, it is highly irregular that you unilaterally executed a page move while it was under discussion. You need to immediately begin to work more collaboratively. Sennalen (talk) 02:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
::I am watching this account closely. You have been warned about WP:CTOP ↗ already so if you continue certain WP:PROFRINGE ↗ WP:ADVOCACY ↗, I will ask for you to be topic banned at WP:AE ↗. jps (talk) 12:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Just a thought: My hunch is that your comment here gave rise to the idea of taking ''you'' to AE. If you had simply not replied, it might not have happened. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Placeholder for future comment. I have thoughts, but I will wait to make them known. jps (talk) 18:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Not to relitigate anything here, but this rejection of discussionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zoonotic_origins_of_COVID-19&diff=prev&oldid=1187324705 ↗ was the red line for me. Sennalen (talk) 19:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
In light of the conclusion of the AE thread and with a nod towards WP:GRAVEDANCING ↗ which I think is a bad cultural trait of this place I do not want to encourage, I'm closing this thread with ''no further action taken''. jps (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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Special:Diff/1187383180 ↗ -- it's one thing if you have actual evidence, but otherwise, I think that evidence-free accusations of antisemitism are a pretty cheap shot to take against someone. <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b> ↗🗯️</b> 20:15, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} I've commented in the same AE thread, and noticed the same edit. But I understood it in terms of Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory ↗ (which Cultural Marxism ↗ redirects to). The page clearly labels that conspiracy theory as antisemitic. I looked superficially, and the editor that jps was referring to is all over the talk page – although I didn't look at all their comments, so I don't know if anything was antisemitic, but I do see a lot of editors disagreeing with that editor. jps' comment describes the editor as "pro-conspiracy theory", and then describes the conspiracy theory, accurately, as antisemitic. So I ended up taking jps' comment as mainly being that the editor POV pushes about conspiracy theories, with the secondary fact that this conspiracy theory is antisemitic. And there does seem to be evidence that this editor is active in that subject area. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:26, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
::Selective redaction was one of the reasons I voted oppose ↗ at the OP's RFA. Bon courage (talk) 13:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Tamzin}} (who has been acting like an erstwhile clerk in that filing): I am reading up on WP:RPA ↗ and note that this practice has somewhat unclear standards on our pages. There are straightforward bright lines for outing and removing other's perceived personal attacks on your own userpage is uncontroversial, but it strikes me as being at least somewhat questionable to redact another user's own statement on WP:AE ↗. Are there other instances of this happening at WP:AE ↗? Does anyone know how we might determine the legitimacy of such action, especially as there is obviously some controversy as to whether the claimed statement constitutes a "personal attack"? jps (talk) 17:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::c.f. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FEnforcement&diff=1188341035&oldid=1188279065 ↗ for those who are playing along at home. jps (talk) 18:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
::::I had done this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FJPxG&diff=1182216669&oldid=1182215568 ↗, but I've also done this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1188489904 ↗, reverting that redaction as inappropriate. As for the "bone to pick" referred to below, I had remembered BC's oppose, and I've been wondering about a bone to pick, myself. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:JPxG... This is the third time in <s>one week</s>ten days you have waded into a situation to oppose something I've said. Is there some particular bone to pick that you have? jps (talk) 22:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
RX J0852.0−4622 ↗
Can you check out this article and tell me if the sources are accurate? Two other ones not in the article, Bernd Aschenbach (2016) ↗ and
Richard Peter Wade (2019) ↗ also support the idea that the supernova was visible in Japan in or around 1271 on 13 September. While I would like this to be true, as it would provide an explanation based in archaeastronomy ↗ for the rise of Nichiren Buddhism ↗ as a cultural force in Japan, it does appear to be somewhat of an extraordinary claim. The artist Kuniyoshi ↗ depicted the legend in the 1830s in this image ↗. Some of the people pushing this idea could be off their rocker, but Bernd Aschenbach seems legit. It would make a great hook for a DYK that I'm working on, so I'm hoping you can take a look. I'm not going to get my hopes up, though. It's too good to be true (or potentially true). Viriditas (talk) 12:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:This is absolutely WP:ECREE ↗ territory. Aschenbach, the discoverer of the remnant, may be a competent astrophysicist, but he is also ''highly motivated'' to attribute as much as possible to his discovery. Aside from the ice cores (which is circumstantial evidence ''at best''), all of the archaeoastronomy claims seem to originate entirely from Wade. In general, I don't think it is a good idea to take our cues from architects about archaeoastronomy. This paper ↗ feels most definitive to me in terms of age estimates. While an ~800 year age is not completely ruled out, it looks highly unlikely. I think the correct order of operation here is to acknowledge a few things: (1) the remnant is close, (2) there isn't enough positional data from the Maori and Zulu oral histories to attribute any specific datetime and sky position to their celestial portents, (3) ice cores analyses require a number of proxy arguments to work (and the most obvious tests given well-attested to historical supernovae are either unavailable or haven't been done), and (4) the Japanese claim looks ''very'' convenient and not at all well-attested to. Remember, a nearby supernova like that would be visible in the night/daytime sky for weeks! No one else reported it in India, in China, or other locales which would have had a far better viewing opportunity than Japan. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but to reject the null hypothesis requires something more than a story about a one-time celestial intervention (which, as you are no doubt aware, is an extremely common trope across the world and is not always associated with anything other than mythmaking). jps (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you, that's very helpful. Do you think the September 13th material should be removed from RX J0852.0−4622 ↗? It seems out of place, and the sourcing is pretty weak. Viriditas (talk) 19:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:::I took a quick look at the page, and I think readers will be confused (as I was) by the lead image: is the page about the "purple" stuff at the left, or the small bright thing at the right? There should be a caption explaining that. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:40, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::::It's even more confusing than that! It's an image of a supernova remnant ''within'' another supernova remnant. It only makes sense when you look at the other images, such as the ones in Aschenbach 1998. Viriditas (talk) 20:15, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Apparently, my PhD went for nothing... WTF?? (And if I'm confused, so will our readers be.) So the small thing to the right is the supernova remnant (the central compact object???), and the "purple" stuff at the left is a synchrotron nebula? I tried thinking of how to tag the page for clarification needed, and I couldn't even figure ''that'' out. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::The image is not the best. It is a section of the shockwave shell of the supernova imaged by the Chandra X-ray telescope combined with the visible sky image from the digital sky survey. The center of the remnant is out of frame, off to the left. This ↗ is a better full-frame image. The problem is that the thing is so big on the sky, you can't really capture the entire nebula in one Chandra image and there really is no reason to go image the fainter parts of the remnant. jps (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::This is over my head, and not just because it's up in the sky. It would really improve the page if there could be some sort of caption for the infobox figure, explaining what the two things in the image are, or at least explaining that both of them are relevant. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::::The star in the image is irrelevant. I'll have a go at it, but, as I said, I don't think this is the best image for this article. jps (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::<s>If the star is the bright thing at the right, then all you need is a caption saying "RX J0852.0−4622 ''(left)''".</s> --Tryptofish (talk) 00:26, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::I see you already wrote a caption, and I like it much better than what I said. That actually makes it clear to me. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::Part of the confusion is the image is showing only ''part'' of the remnant. I tried my best. I'm not sure why they included so much "blank" sky in their choice for the image crop, but maybe it's for aesthetics. jps (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::I agree that the cropping is suboptimal, but I think that the caption you wrote is very good, and resolves the confusion that I had (and that I expect our readers would have). --Tryptofish (talk) 00:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Specific dates like this seem highly suspect. They are based entirely on Aschenbach and Wade. Yeah, I'd take it out. jps (talk) 19:51, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks. I've been reading some more of Wade, and the way he uses citations makes no sense to me. I went back to read his PhD thesis and even there, it made zero sense. I went back and checked his work and many of the citations for Nichiren didn't add up. Something is wrong with his work. Do we know if his thesis was ever accepted and he received his PhD? I tried to find out but couldn't make heads or tails of it. Viriditas (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Oh, gee, I have no idea, but given that it was presented to the Department of Geology(!), it hardly matters whether it was or it wasn't. Geology is not the correct discipline for such a study. That is immediately disconfirming. jps (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::I was lurking and trying to digest Taylor–von Neumann–Sedov blast wave ↗, but the text in Vela Supernova Remnant ↗ cited to https://www.nature.com/articles/24106 ↗(~200 parsecs, ~680 yrs) should go? A footnote in jps's 2015 paper says the <sup>44</sup>Ti observation is unlikely. fiveby(zero) 03:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Excellent catch. It seems that Pat Slane could not find the claimed line and it looks like it may have been a misidentification. We should remove that Nature article. There is also a claim that the remnant was ''discovered'' by means of that emission. This is not true. While the claimed detection was published in the same issue of ''Nature'', the discovery was through ROSAT and not through COMPTEL. This should be fixed in both articles. jps (talk) 13:46, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
::::I realize your time is limited, but any chance you can represent and reframe the now missing material with better sources in the future? I only ask because it would be nice to retain a discussion about time and distance (and the potential for viewing it in the past) if at all possible. Viriditas (talk) 20:37, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Okay. I have to think about what the best thing to say should be. There actually is still some controversy over whether this is a SNR at all, though I think the preponderance of the evidence is that it is. jps (talk) 22:08, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::Apparently i should have learned how to date SNR's ↗ in high school, but somehow missed out. Removed the Archaeoastronomy ↗ text saying it's an easy thing to do ↗ tho. fiveby(zero) 16:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::<small>I dated an SNR in high school, but the relationship was rather explosive. (Sorry, I couldn't resist the joke.) --Tryptofish (talk) 22:23, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</small>
{{ping|Viriditas}}Still thinking how best to handle this. I think I would include the COMPTEL ''Nature'' article, Pat Slane's response, and use the 2015 article as the starting point (with reference made to other distance and time measurements made therein). The CCO ↗ angle is a good one too, especially as there was some question as to whether there was a different pulsar that could have been the end product. Speculations on historical observations of it are best left to the WP:UNDUE ↗ purgatory of uncited literature. jps (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
:{{done}} jps (talk) 14:24, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
::Nice work. Your prose style is quite good. Viriditas (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Low hanging red fruit
Imagine my surprise that Wikipedia has no article on central compact object ↗s. For those wanting to know, these are almost certainly nearby neutron stars at the center of supernova remnants which glow in the x-rays but seem to have no pulsations. Unlike magnetars ↗ or millisecond pulsar ↗s or x-ray binaries ↗, etc., they don't have a large contingent of researchers working on them, but they're pretty fascinating things, IMHO. jps (talk) 21:35, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
: <small> Alert: Ignorance Incoming. </small> So does the lack of pulsations imply that the objects aren't rotating (which ''seems'' highly unlikely)? Or that the rotational axis is pointed directly at us, or nearly so? JoJo Anthrax (talk) 21:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
::Weak magnetic fields, so no beaming of radiation, more than likely. There actually are three that have weak pulsations. But those pulsations were wicked hard to detect. jps (talk) 22:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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K2-18b ↗
I don't know if this interests you, but there's a discussion here ↗ about edits adding podcast content ↗. I'm a fan of the Planetary Society ↗, but I think this information is slightly unnecessary as 1) it duplicates info already in the article, 2) engages in a bit of crystalballing, and 3) the relevant info should simply be merged into the already existing sections. Just my opinion, but if you have time, please take a look. Viriditas (talk) 23:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Reliability of university presses
Hi, I happened to run across your comments about Diana Walsh Pasulka ↗ on WP:FTN ↗, and I noticed that our article on Pasulka lists two of her books published by Oxford University Press.
Because over the past year I have found myself in the midst of arguing about the reliability of university press sources (with me arguing that a book shouldn't be presumed a reliabile source just because a respected university press publishes it), I have been considering writing a wiki-essay about this.
A university press has a peer review process, but the editorial board makes the final decision and can publish anyway even if the peer reviews are negative, because the board may have a goal of encouraging scholarly debate or publishing more books on particular topics.
Would you say these might be examples of unreliable sources published by a university press? I am looking for others, books you may know of that promote fringe topics. ~Anachronist <small>(talk)</small> 17:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Oh, the big problem with university presses is that the editors will choose reviewers from ''within'' the group that the author selects (typically). I saw this problem most brazenly with the publication of Bjorn Ekeberg's Book on Cosmology ↗ which was vetted by absolutely no cosmologists, I can assure you. I can find plenty of other examples. The question of genre is actually the one that is best looked at! jps (talk) 17:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Haven't we had this discussion before? A UP is generally a good indication, but not a guarantee, of quality. And some UPs are higher-minded than others. Oxford UP, for example, publishers some pretty rank quackery in the form of Andrew Weil ↗'s Integrative Medicine Library.https://global.oup.com/academic/content/series/w/weil-integrative-medicine-library-iml/?cc=gb&lang=en& ↗ Bon courage (talk) 17:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::I recall that this OUP-published text on "health foods" ↗ was being used years ago in my dust-up with the homeopaths as proof positive that homeopathic preparations actually contained the plants they claimed to contain. jps (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm a bit out of the loop, but AIUI OUP was cut loose to be an independent commercial publishing company while keeping the "university press" moniker. It is a very profitable publisher (how very Oxford!). Cambridge UP kept its academic leadership, and churns out many a commercial dud. Bon courage (talk) 17:47, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{reply|Bon courage}} Yes, the discussion has been had before, in many places and times. I felt it might be appropriate to write an essay about it, and perhaps get something incorporated into WP:RS ↗. I've run across instances where an editor insists that a source must absolutely be considered reliable just because a respected university press published it. An example that comes to mind is Talk:Muhammad/Archive 34#Suspect sources ↗ involving a book with a minority viewpoint published by an obscure adjunct professor, and a followup same argument made in Talk:Muhammad/Archive 35 ↗ (very long discussion, search the page for "university press" to find that part). The argument about university presses arises enough that I thought it would be good to have some sort of document to point to, outlining the situation. ~Anachronist <small>(talk)</small> 18:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::: (ec) Doesn't this speak to a a more general issue? It isn't just a matter of reliability automatically attached to university presses, but reliability attached to ''any'', well, "reliable" publisher. For example, what you wrote above - "A university press has a peer review process, but the editorial board makes the final decision and can publish anyway even if the peer reviews are negative" - applies to pretty much every legitimate scientific journal of which I am familiar, regardless of the specific publisher. It might not happen habitually, but the editors of reliable, non-university-press journals - and I am thinking here of ''Nature'', ''Science'', etc. - sometimes make publication decisions contrary to the recommendations of peer reviewers. That doesn't mean that every single paper published by Nature or Science is necessarily suspect, and I believe the same holds true for content published by university presses. Articulating the nuances in an essay might be a challenge, but I certainly encourage you to give it a shot. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::::{{reply|JoJo Anthrax}} Thanks, I tried to add this nuance to the draft essay (linked below). ~Anachronist <small>(talk)</small> 21:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Jps and {{ping|Bon courage}} I have started a very rough first attempt at User:Anachronist/Reliable sources (university presses). Feel free to add examples, correct any errors I made, and add points that I am sure I have missed. Eventually I'd like to move it to the Wikipedia namespace but it's far from ready. ~Anachronist <small>(talk)</small> 20:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{tq|''American Cosmic'' touts the Oxford University Press imprint. I had the impression that readers could trust the editorial team at Oxford to filter manuscripts according to rigorous standards. The name, Oxford, was once a quality control guarantee. What happened here?}} {{cite journal|author=Peters, Ted|authorlink=Ted_Peters_(theologian)|year=2019|title=American Cosmic: UFO's, Religion, Technology|work=Theology and Science|url=https://www-tandfonline-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/doi/full/10.1080/14746700.2019.1632556}} That was for jps' request for sources at FTN, but thought the quote appropriate here. fiveby(zero) 02:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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I gave them a ct alert a little while ago and see you gave a second after mine. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 22:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:I see that. I wish there was a better system that would identify this. jps (talk) 22:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Lobster-eye optics
Lobster-eye optics ↗ is a very short article that wouldn't take up too much of your time. I could really use your help copyediting it, or at least an eagle eye from someone familiar with X-ray astronomy ↗. My goal is to pass this as a DYK, but various issues have cropped up on the DYK nomination page. Note, I'm the reviewer, not the nominator. If you have any time just to glance at it, that would be appreciated. For what it is worth, my primary goal is to make this article readable and understandable to the average person visiting it from the DYK blurb. I think it's close to that goal, but I don't think it's quite there just yet. If there's a way you could help copyedit it for explanatory power and clarity, that would be great. I was hoping not to bother you, but I'm at my wits' end with this. I feel like I'm running into a brick wall trying to simplify the prose. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} I read it and read the DYK discussion, and I think it's pretty close to being fine. I'm saying that as someone completely unfamiliar with X-ray astronomy (but of course a scientific background). We have tons of physics-related pages on Wikipedia that I find far less comprehensible. If you'd like, I can give it a copyedit. I'd also like to suggest not using an image with the DYK hook. If that works for you, I can get to it later today, or tomorrow at the latest. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. Please also expand your reasoning for not using the image on the review page, so that others can see it. Viriditas (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Will do. And if jps will also look at it, that would be good. (By the way, I think the editor who nominated the page has been remarkably friendly on the DYK page.) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:It reads just fine to me! Kinda a niche topic, but that's not surprising. Good job! jps (talk) 21:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::There's a few things I still don't understand. Why is it important, for example, to capture so-called transient events with an X-ray telescope? The literature assumes that the reader understands this. As one example, Camp et al. 2015 indicate one use is to do X-ray follow-up after gravitational wave detection and short gamma-ray bursts. Shouldn't the article mention ''how'' and ''why'' it will be used and what it will detect? Viriditas (talk) 08:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I just found all the answers to my questions on a now deleted NASA website archived by the Wayback Machine. What's weird is that I couldn't find this answer elsewhere: Answer follows: "Camp said the instrument would be able to detect transient X-ray emissions from a large portion of the sky, giving scientists an unprecedented view of black-hole mergers, supernovae, and even gamma-ray bursts in the very distant universe. Transient X-rays are now difficult to detect because these sources brighten without warning and then vanish just as quickly. He also believes the instrument could work in conjunction with and even extend the sensitivity of the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), a National Science Foundation-funded experiment that has searched for gravitational waves since 2002. Gravitational waves, first postulated by Albert Einstein, are faint ripples in space-time that theoretically happen during massively powerful events, such as black-hole or neutron-star binary mergers. Gravitational-wave detectors don't localize well. Used in conjunction with the focusing Lobster detector, however, scientists would be able to zero in on the location of the source, Camp said....Just as exciting, Camp said, is how he could use the technology to detect ammonia leaks. Anhydrous ammonia runs through tubing connected to huge radiator panels located outside the space station. As the ammonia circulates through the tubing, it releases heat as infrared radiation. In short, it helps to regulate onboard temperatures. Possibly because of micrometeorite impacts or thermal-mechanical stresses, these lines currently leak." Viriditas (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Transients are all the rage regardless of the type of EM radiation in which they occur. While there are target of opportunity ↗ campaigns on many x-ray telescopes, monitoring for transients cannot really be done with narrow field of view unless you're really lucky. jps (talk) 16:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Right; didn't I read that there were spherical detectors that could detect in almost any direction of the sky, or is that something planned for the future? Viriditas (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
{{od}}Like this?https://aas.aanda.org/articles/aas/pdf/1996/07/ds4511.pdf ↗ jps (talk) 00:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, but the literature is murky. I assume it officially never saw the light of day, but ahem. Viriditas (talk) 00:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
::X-ray astronomy has been in something of a dark period for some time. They're still hurting from the cancellation of Constellation-X. Long live ATHENA! And, at slightly lower energies, fly UVEX fly! jps (talk) 00:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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Re: Olive branches
You can keep offering P-Makoto olive branches... But as long as you continue to hold positions they disagree with they will just continue to spit in your face. Been there done that, sorry its that way. Wish it wasn't. Hope they know we all really do care about them even though we disagree. Do you know of anyone who might be willing to act as a mentor? I don't think they will accept help from anyone they've already interacted with but perhaps someone they perceive as a neutral could get through to them. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:34, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:She and I haven't interacted much before now, but I was encouraged when she talked about changing topics. That might be a good way forward. But I don't expect that my advice in anything will be wanted right now. I'm going to take the long game approach, but, to be clear, I do understand where your concerns are coming from. jps (talk) 18:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:MUTUAL at ANI?
This all just happened at virtually the same time, but after I saw this Special:Diff/1213598963 ↗ technically not TPG-compliant edit, I decided whatever and just removed my comment Special:Diff/1213599753 ↗ and was wondering if we can now just WP:MUTUAL ↗ remove your reply to it Special:Diff/1213600134 ↗, because it's not worth creating another "branch" in that discussion over this point IMO, better to try and keep the thread from spiraling outwards too far. As a bonus I won't have to explain at ANI that the initial comment was changed after my reply, which would create yet another branch. Levivich (talk) 00:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:<s>Yeah, sorry. This is a simple software glitch and your proposed solution looks absolutely fine to me. jps (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)</s>
::Actually, now I'm confused. Maybe best to keep things as is and put a note to this discussion? It's not clear to me this was a glitch. jps (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:::lol, sorry, I ''just'' removed it. It's not a glitch, take a look at the history you'll see the sequence of very rapid fire edits: she read my reply, replied to it (kind of a one liner), retracted the reply, then edited her initial post (to clear up the issue I had raised). She should have done the strikethrough thing but this is just a noob mistake. So I figured I'd remove my reply rather than point out the noob mistake. While all this happened, you were clearly writing your response and (I assume, as it's rather obvious) did not see what had transpired. Levivich (talk) 01:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Sigh. It's hard to know what to do at this point. I'm not certain she actually understands what hypothetical means. It's weird to stay that angry over a hypothetical. jps (talk) 01:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::If I may, think of it like this: suppose a Mormon, or Evangelical, or a Dawkinsian atheist, or whoever, had said to me, "now imagine for a moment if you became a cisgender man—unlikely, sure, but just go with me!" The hypothetical couching wouldn't make me feel better about the implication that I'm wrong about who I am or could be. Being Mormon and being trans aren't the same thing; but from all I've read, for those who stick with them, religious identities can be felt and held very strongly. Hydrangeans (she/her ↗ | talk | edits ↗) 18:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Interesting comparison. But is the issue then one of "becoming" instead of "being"? Like if someone had said, "Imagine being a ..." is that somehow less upsetting? jps (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
::I'll put it this way, if you remove your comment and my response, that is fine for WP:MUTUAL ↗. But I think the post still has real WP:CIR ↗ vibes even with the edit. Sorry, trying to keep on top of lots of this stuff is getting pretty hard. jps (talk) 01:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:::No apologies necessary! I think I retained your CIR-related comment? Take a look at the page/my edit and if you think what I took out should be put back, feel free to put it back. Sometimes discussions on Wikipedia are like trying to dance on a train car rolling down the side of a mountain, sorry I keep stepping on your feet. Levivich (talk) 01:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
::::It's fine User:Novem Linguae hatted the whole thing which is probably for the best. This is such a perfect storm of awful. jps (talk) 01:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
stepping away
I just wanted to let you know that I have some off-wiki work I need to attend to for a few days, so I will not be responding to some of our ongoing discussions right away. I care about continuing conversations with you, but I think a few days of emotional distance could be helpful for me. I'm encouraged that you are able to discuss some sources with other editors over at the Ammonihah talk page. You might find it useful to track discussions and their conclusions on the perennial sources list for LDS topics ↗ at Wikiproject Latter Day Saint movement (it's a work-in-progress). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:Wikibreaks are almost always a good idea. I am always open to conversation. And, just to be clear, I am absolutely not opposed to discussing sources with you. I'm not sure I'm enthused by the local consensus at the perennial sources list at the WikiProject. I might ask at RSN if they think it is a reasonable one before thinking about whether this was the best route. jps (talk) 19:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Catholic source example
Hello! This is a bit afield of our Ammonihah discussions, so I figured your talk page might be a better place for it. As I've said, I'm worried about creating an unworkable standard or chilling effect for religious sourcing in general, but I also agree with your concerns about "walled garden" scholarship that isn't meaningfully scrutinized.
I think it would be helpful to talk through a specific non-LDS example: The Oxford Handbook of Catholic Theology https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Catholic_Theology/AFLNEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1 ↗ contains a chapter on the Trinity written by Emmanuel Durand. Durand is a professor at the University of Fribourg ↗, which was founded by Jesuits, and he's a member of the Dominican Order ↗. Would you consider this more-or-less analogous to Oxford publishing Grant Hardy? Would you consider this a generally reliable or generally unreliable source, and for what kind of statements? Ghosts of Europa (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what you are intending on using that source for. Trinity (Christianity) ↗? I see no problem with using that source for sentences like, "The Catholic view of the Trinity is..." especially because the dogma is easy to verify due to Catholicism basically having had loads of other sources connecting to this source. Unfortunately, I don't think the LDS church works the same way in the sense that they don't bestow imprimaturs and the like to ensure that the person opining is not going "off script". Mormons excommunicate, but they are also not wont to be strict in what is canon and what isn't contrary to the Catholics. I think all we can say with Hardy is that this is what ''he'' believes as a practicing Mormon. Which may, to be fair, be good enough, but I don't see any way around that kind of particular attribution. jps (talk) 20:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Uncivil behavior
You have repeatedly engaged in egregious, unprovoked incivility towards me. You have now added casting aspersions ↗ to BATTLEGROUND ↗. You accuse me of POV pushing for providing a basis for why I disagree with you. Stop now. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
: (Jaguar padding by... ↗) I am uninvolved in the topic and the discussions. In reading through those discussions (here ↗ and here ↗) it seems to me that you, {{yo|Pbritti}}, are perhaps reacting too personally to the opposing views expressed by ''several'' editors, with those reactions verging upon WP:OWN ↗ behavior. Because the consensus in those discussions seems unlikely to move in favor of your POV, I suggest that you drop the stick now and move on to something(s) else. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 08:57, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::{{re|JoJo Anthrax}} Describe, exactly, how this is reacting {{tq|too personally}}. Describe how disagreeing with an editor who was reverted by multiple other editors as well is OWN. If you can't then don't throw out aspersions. ~ Pbritti (talk) 11:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Dear Pbritti, I see evidence of you POVPUSHING and OWNing the article. I am not trying to impugn any personal motives onto this. This is the ''result'' of your actions. If you can't see that, that's a problem, in my opinion. jps (talk) 11:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::: Reacting in a personal/ownership ↗ manner seems self-evident at those discussions. But rest assured that I will never again try to help you avoid unproductive discussions, or worse. Speaking of which, if you truly believe that anything I have written qualifies as an aspersion ↗, go ahead and take me to ANI. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 11:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Explain exactly ''what'' POV I'm pushing and how I'm pushing it. Saying there is evidence and that is {{tq|self-evident}} is peculiar—I'm merely asking you to cite your sources. Right now, the only person to express explicit POV is jps, who has declared some scholars unworthy of consideration because of their religious identity and others {{tq|weirdos}} for using scholarship published in reliable sources. I wonder if you are attempting to impose a POV based on your own beliefs. The lack of self-awareness is palpable. ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::The apologetics POV about the Massacre of the Innocents. You are insisting on including unreliable, religious sources that argue, contrary to all others, that there are sensible arguments for why it may have happened. Those are profoundly weird sources you are demanding Wikipedia use. jps (talk) 19:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::I'm a wiki-friend of both jps and JoJo, and I also was in a content dispute a long time ago with Pbritti where we were able to get along very well together and appreciate one another's differing positions, so after seeing this thread I decided to look at the discussions at the article talk page, and butt in here. I think it's reasonable to treat apologist sources as representing a particular POV, rather than using them for statements of fact. But I also think that point can be made on an article talk page without saying nasty things about those sources. So I think jps may probably be right on the merits of the content (or at least I would agree with him), but I would urge him to dial down the language about "bullshit" or "baloney". One doesn't need to use that kind of language to make the point about the sourcing issues, and it's exactly the kind of thing that is likely to get oneself blocked if the dispute escalates to somewhere like ANI. So I'm sympathetic to Pbritti's concern about how other editors are talking. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::When I see a paragraph lovingly sourced to a Young-Earth creationist arguing that an event for which there is no evidence actually occurred, I think WP:SPADE ↗ indicates that it is bullshit and baloney. In the spirit of On Bullshit ↗ and Baloney detection kit ↗s I don't think WP:CIV ↗ means we have to be kind to sources. jps (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::As I said, such sources are not reliable sources for saying that such an event took place. I agree with you that content should not be sourced that way. And I doubt very much that the sources even care what you (or I) think of them, so I'm not worried that you hurt the sources' feelings. But when you say these things about sources in a way that causes bad feelings among other editors, it's not necessarily those other editors' fault that they feel bad. If you think it's a source of pride to hurt other editors' feelings, well, that's both bullshit and baloney. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Okay, that's a fair critique. However, I also get the impression that the critique often doesn't go the other way, where people aren't taken to task for being sensitive about those who level harsh critiques against their favored sources, but maybe I'm just being a sourpuss. jps (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Thanks for understanding. Please understand that I say all of it in a spirit of trying to help, including helping you steer clear of things that could later be used against you. In case you don't know about it, ArbCom recently enacted this principle ↗, which got a lot of favorable attention, and is something that admins are likely to be attentive to. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Please copy my statement to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard ↗ or administrators' noticeboard ↗. I do apologize for personal attack offense. I tried to redact and am always amenable to discussion. jps (talk) 10:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) jps (talk) 10:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::{{Done}} I've copied it to the ANI thread where this is being discussed. If you'd like to appeal at one of the other venues, I can copy a statement there as well. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New">'''The Wordsmith'''</span><sup><span style="font-family:Papyrus"><small>''Talk to me''</small></span></sup> 13:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't want to waste dramurgy with an appeal, but I thank you for passing my note along. jps (talk) 14:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Astronomical pseudoscience reinserted
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anachronisms_in_the_Book_of_Mormon&diff=1216546305&oldid=1215121321 ↗
Sigh. {{tq|A few LDS Church scholars account for this apparent discrepancy by arguing that the Nephite calendar was a lunar calendar (354.37 days in a year) during that time period which equates to 582.12 solar years, and that the Lehi departure was just prior to the final destruction of Jerusalem circa 587 BC. The reference in 3 Nephi is referring to Lehi's first leaving of Jerusalem to receive his prophetic calling.<ref>Sorenson, John L. ''Comments on Nephite Chronology'' Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 2, 2 (1993):207–211</ref><ref>Spackman, Randall P. ''The Jewish/Nephite Lunar Calendar'' Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 7, 1 (1998): 48–59.</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=Spackman |first1=Randall P. |title=Introduction to Book of Mormon Chronology: The Principal Prophecies, Calendars, and Dates |journal=Foundation for Ancient Research & Mormon Studies: Preliminary Reports |date=1993 |volume=SPA-93}}</ref>}} This is Mormon apologetics full stop. The Jewish calendar is lunisolar. Do with that information what you will. jps (talk) 01:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC) jps (talk) 01:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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{{ygm}} Bishonen | tålk 22:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
:Sorry. I had gone on an e-mail diet! Replied. jps (talk) 01:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hi JPS, I'm glancing at Talk:Book of Mormon ↗, and, respectfully, I feel like the way you have raised issues there is needlessly temperature-raising. A thread with the header {{tq|Nomination for worst sentence}}, ending with {{tq|You've got to be kidding me. Anyone think this is a reasonable sentence?}} could be changed to a sober, not-outraged commentary and still fulfill its purpose of initiating discussion about the sentence in question and expressing your own view. Every piece of prose and editorial decision you criticize has at least one author, and nothing is gained by upsetting them with choices in tone and framing (e.g. {{tq|Hey, I get it. There is this approach going around in the Book of Mormon obsessed world that tries to read a lot of context into the work...}}) that don't substantively alter the content of your comments. If you're right, you're right; if you have a point, you have a point; if you have a useful discussion to spark, it'll be sparked—there's no reason to make the process any more inflammatory than necessary. Those are my respectful two cents as someone not involved with or knowledgeable in this topic area. <span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧁</span>Zanahary<span style="position: relative; top: -0.5em;">꧂</span> 01:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:Do you think tone policing ↗ is important in Wikipedia? jps (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Conversing with FyzixFighter
I've been on Wikipedia a while and have dealt with a lot of zealous Latter Day Saints who genuinely come on here to turn this place into an apologetic site underhandedly. User:FyzixFighter is not one of them. He may have a clear LDS bias, but does a LOT of good work keeping articles clean. I beg you to give him the benefit of the doubt and work with him rather than chase him off, even if it takes time, patience and effort. Epachamo (talk) 06:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
:Noted. Just so you know: I have become increasingly concerned that there are ownership ↗ issues on many LDS pages. I'm not interested in chasing anyone off, but I don't appreciate knee-jerk reverts that claim things like "this has already been discussed" when such has clearly not been discussed. I have yet to see FyzixFigher start a talkpage discussion in spite of being more than happy to play the role of ''R'' in the WP:BRD ↗ cycle. And the brief interactions he does on talkpages stretch my WP:AGF ↗ ''really'' far. jps (talk) 15:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
::There are definitely ownership issues on many LDS pages. Without a doubt. As far as FyzixFighter's reversions, he does do a lot, sometimes as a kneejerk, but he also reverts the mob of people that constantly do things like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Book_of_Abraham&diff=prev&oldid=1228955087 ↗ and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_the_Father&diff=prev&oldid=1227857120 ↗. For me anyway, I've found it worth the occasional disagreements I've had with him. Epachamo (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Extended Confirmed protection ↗ could do a similar job. jps (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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:I'm about to report you to WP:3RRN ↗. You are in violation of that rule. jps (talk) 21:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
::So are you. Skyerise (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for finding a workable compromise edit rather than just joining the tag team revert warriors. Skyerise (talk) 16:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Vaguely related to your recent comments here ↗
This ↗ terrific document by Purcell, resplendent with hand-drawn figures, has always been a favorite of mine. The section "Space Travel," which seems to have never been read (or if read, not understood) by any of the UFO True Believers, is a real gem. 70+ plus years later, and it remains iron-clad. I'm tempted to add the link to his WP article if it isn't already there. BTW, did you ever meet Purcell? JoJo Anthrax (talk) 20:22, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
:Love it. My one caveat is that it would be fun to consider space travel under constant acceleration ↗ to greater distances which require even more absurd amounts of energy but rather cutely allow for 1g traversing of the entire universe in human lifetimes. :) jps (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
::You build the rocket, I'll shield myself from the gamma rays with a...of course! A tin-foil hat. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 20:36, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
:::If you want to have fun, check out the calculator ↗ which tells us how much fuel we'll need. I should suggest they add a section for shielding against gamma rays. jps (talk) 20:44, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
:I know of Purcell only by reputation. I love his Berkeley E&M Text. jps (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Hey.
Why did you revert my edit? It was a reasonable revert? '''<span style="font-family: 'Georgia';"><span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #a6a6a6"><span style="color: #8c8c8c;">Valorrr</span></span> <span style="color: #000000"><sup>(<span style="color: #000000"><span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #8c8c8c">lets chat</span></span>)</sup></span></span>''' 03:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
:Please see the talkpage. jps (talk) 09:42, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
2022 FAR
Hey there,
The reason I didn't say anything about the 2022 FAR when you pinged me is because I assumed you'd meant the 2024 FAR and simply typoed it. Apologies. Simonm223 (talk) 17:03, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
:No need to apologize: I am the one who was/is confused. Too many reviews and not enough clarity about why we should accept some concerns and not others. jps (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
::Yeah. it's definitely a frustrating situation. I got more receptive responses to my source reviews during the debate about the political ideology of the Reublican Party than I did at the JKR talk page. Simonm223 (talk) 17:42, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
A belated acknowledgement and apology
A few months ago, in the context of the deletion discussion for Ido Kedar ↗, you challenged my understanding of WP:BLPSPS ↗ when it comes to Talk pages. I've considered it more since then, and you were right, and I was wrong. I'd also persisted with an inaccurate interpretation of something you wrote, even after you'd corrected me, and for that I apologize. I'd been meaning to stop by to say so, and your note today at BLPN and the Zohran Mamdani ↗ talk page reminded me. FactOrOpinion (talk) 18:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
:Appreciate the apology, but, also, I recognize that you are trying your best. Conflict is part of interacting at this site and I appreciate your willingness to be introspective. I also try to be so and if I was too harsh in my criticism of you, I also apologize. jps (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Questions about your thoughts on reality and the universe
Dear jps, I saw that you had flagged my ''Ninefold Resonance Theory ↗'' for pseudoscience and that you would like to remove it from Wikiversity. I just looked at your user page and read your discussion page, and it sounds like you are an interesting person to philosophize/discuss with. I had the idea that as an astronomer you hold the positivist ↗ philosophy? I am working on an idealistic ↗ philosophy about reality and the universe and thought that I might take some additional inspiration from you. I have a few questions where I am very curious about your answers.
- What lies beyond reality?
- What lies beyond the universe?
- What lies beyond time?
- Do we live in a deterministic universe?
- What was there before the Big Bang?
- How and why did the universe come into existence?
- What created the universe?
- What is the purpose of the universe?
:{{tps}} Your first mistake was trying to make a discrete idealistic philosophy that engages with physics. See the work of Quentin Meillassoux ↗ for why. Your second mistake was assuming that <s>Wikipedia</s>Wikiversity was the right place to discuss your self-created idealistic philosophy. 15:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC) Simonm223 (talk) 15:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::Haha, don't worry! I'm not a talk page stalker. I like to form a picture of a user before having a conversation with them, so that I already know a bit more about what previous conversations are about, how the user reacts, how they are in life, what talk language they speak in, etc. Thanks for your tip about Quentin Meillassoux! I am going to read this at home! And as for my theory; it's not on Wikipedia, it's on Wikiversity. And I thought original research is allowed there, because it's mainly about exchanging ideas there, including new ideas! Kind regards, {{User:S. Perquin/Signature}} – 15:21, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:I think you are looking for something different than what either Wikipedia or WMF-projects generally are set up to do. In general, the remit of those wikis is to archive and document material that is vetted, educational, and well-attested. We have this essay called Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day ↗. As for your inquiries into philosophies, I suggest you start with Sean Carroll ↗'s writings on the subject to get a quick understanding as to how ''most'' (astro)physicists approach the majority of the questions you ask above. jps (talk) 15:20, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the tip! But out of curiosity, I'm also curious about ''your'' answers! So should you want to share your views, please do! Kind regards, {{User:S. Perquin/Signature}} – 15:23, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::I have yet to find something that Sean Carroll has said about the questions you pose above with which I disagree. jps (talk) 16:16, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::::Personally, I believe that the universe is difficult to explain if you deny that consciousness (or what I call God) created the universe and that it is merely a by-product of the brain. That is like saying that the painter is a by-product of a painting that has been created and that the painting is the only thing that has always existed. Or that a river is simply there because it is there, and you deny the water cycle of rain and water evaporation. But still, I'm really curious how an atheist can answer life's questions without involving God! Kind regards, {{User:S. Perquin/Signature}} – 16:46, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::There are entire college classes dedicated to this subject. I suggest you seek them out. jps (talk) 16:52, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::I watch and read a lot, but I always just watch and read things randomly, and I realize that it's only 0.0000001% of what's out there. Do you perhaps have a video that explains the basics of Sean's philosophy? {{User:S. Perquin/Signature}} – 17:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Just look through the sources here Sean_M._Carroll#Philosophical_and_religious_views ↗. jps (talk) 17:21, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::::I found his YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@seancarroll. I will watch a few of his videos! It sounds interesting! Kind regards, {{User:S. Perquin/Signature}} – 17:35, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
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The "data lifeboat" is here ↗ (for some reason, when I tried to insert the link within the quote above, it broke the quote template). I'll likely post this to the article's talk page, and it also seems worth copying potential sources from the deletion discussion, or at least giving people a heads up that there are additional sources there, in case someone comes along who wants to improve the article. But I figured I'd at least let you know, since you'd wondered what was going on. FactOrOpinion (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks. It is always a shame to see resources disappear, but this is the nature of a lot of internet projects who don't build in backups and resiliency into their models. jps (talk) 13:15, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
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Hello. There is a RfC on the Age of Disclosure talk page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Age_of_Disclosure#RFC_on_Concerns_about_factually_incorrect_claim_that_NASA_UAP_Panel_studied_classified_data.
It's really a silly issue. The page claims,
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