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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland#Railways in Poland ↗



Hi. I can see that you've previously somewhat contributed to Poland rail transport-related articles. If you're actually interested in the topic, it would be great if you could participate in this ↗ discussion about the possible creation of a task force. Thank you. Fortek67 (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Fortek67 Hi, thank you for the invitation, and I very much support the creation of the task force. But I am not interested in joining it if it was created, as I'm not focusing on writing about railways. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 16:00, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

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Piaseczno and Grójec Narrow-Gauge Railway ↗



Hi. You've reverted my edits and the move because it's "the official name". Can you then show me sources that cite that name? There seem to be no online references in the article, so it would be great if you could provide them.<br/>
I moved the article because this is the way railway line articles are named, two terminus stations with an en-dash in between, followed by "railway" which isn't capitalised. In this case, narrow-gauge railway. And there are several examples of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCgen_narrow-gauge_railway ↗ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riedlh%C3%BCtte_narrow-gauge_railway ↗ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudemskaya_narrow-gauge_railway ↗ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsheronsk_narrow-gauge_railway ↗. Not only that, but the pl.wiki article further supports this by calling it "Piaseczyńsko-Grójecka Kolej Wąskotorowa". Thank you. Fortek67 (talk) 18:35, 7 July 2026 (UTC)

:Hi. I start by saying that I didn't notice you changing and to an en-dash, I just saw you decapitalize it. So, for starters, I say I belive it should be capitalized. You even proved my point by quoting Polish name which is capitalized. And note, Polish sources capitalise it when using the full company name e.g. 1 ↗ or 2 ↗. Idk what's the context to the railways you linked, but note that all other Polish railway companies are capitalised, like Greater Poland Railways or Silesian Railways for example. Also, it could be as little as whoever wrote those German articles just though they shouldn't be capitalised. After all, sadly, usually there's no a single standard on Wikipedia people follow with this kind of thing. About the en-dash, I think you might be correct in this matter. I assumed the name meant the "railway of Piaseczno and Grojec" but it could very much be "the railway on the line Piaseczno-Grojec" (idk if I illustrate my train of thought here very well. Anyway, the reason I used "and" originally is becouse in English it makes more since to use and since unlike in Polish, the names are juse nouns instead of adjectives. But considering it's about a railway line, it could very much be "Piaseczno-Grojec Narrow-Gauge Railway". Anyway, sorry for the big wall of text. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::Hold up, it's a railway company? Or just about the railway line? Because if you're writing about a railway company, yes, it should be capitalised, for instance Lusatian Railway Company ↗. Fortek67 (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::Yes, it is a railway company. Currently used more like a tourist attraction, but it was founded as a railway company in the 1900s, and I think it still operates as such to some degree. Artemis Andromeda (talk) Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:50, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::::Also, I wouldn't use the pl.wiki source to determine capitalisation. I'm pretty sure that's just how it should be in Polish, after all, all narrow-gauge railway articles have capitalisation. Fortek67 (talk) 18:54, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::Umm, not. If anything, Polish avoids capitalisation to everything but companies and proper names and titles. All narrow-gauge railways have capitalisations couse all of them are or were founded as companies Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::also, it doesn't always. When looking for sources for this, I say it also just call it "kolejka grojecka" or "piaseczynska wąskotorówka", neigher capitalised. So no, sources not always capitalise the names when talking about the railway tracks themselves. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:57, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::{{tq|sources not always capitalise the names when talking about the railway tracks themselves}} – well sorry for being unclear, that was my point this whole time. I thought the article was simply referring to a railway line, so it should be the "standard" I previously explained. Now, we can agree that the "and" should be replaced with an en-dash.<br/>However, I still think the article itself should be referring to the railway line, not the actual company it runs. For instance, see Węgliniec–Czerwona Woda railway ↗, it was run by just one railway company, the Kohlfurt–Rothwasser Light Railway Company ↗ which just redirects to that article. I've seen the same practice in other ones, but I don't have time to find them now. It's fine if you still oppose. Fortek67 (talk) 19:03, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::Since I assumed the article is just about the railway line, that was the standard with the en dash. Whilst with the capitalisation, I'm still not so sure about it. And yeah, there's no convention. {{sma|Should probably propose one since this has been a problem sometimes for me before.}} Fortek67 (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::yeah, when it comes to those small historic railway lines, the company and the line it operated are basically synonymous. I'm not sure what they statuses are in the 21st century, but in the 19th and 20th centuries when they were started they were companies (or at the very least subsidiaries of larger companies). Artemis Andromeda (talk) Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:54, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
::::The statuses of said companies is either defunct (nationalised into PKP) or restored as a new, separate heritage railway line. Fortek67 (talk) 18:57, 7 July 2026 (UTC)