User Talk: Bluevestman

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A barnstar for you!

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Great job sorting the People on Vital articles. Although this is a half barnstar, it should be a barnstar divided into 4 equal parts. Interstellarity (talk) 21:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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June 2025

25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions ↗, such as the edit(s) you made to :Ileana D'Cruz ↗, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted ↗. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines ↗. You can find information about these at our welcome page ↗ which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia ↗. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page ↗. Thank you. ''Rejoy''2003(talk) 07:46, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

:How? She was born in India. Bluevestman (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
::We can see she's born in India. There's no need to explicitly state she is "Indian-born". See WP:MOS ↗ and WP:NAT ↗. It is generally discouraged in lead. ''Rejoy''2003(talk) 14:51, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I've seem plenty of bios that do this, but alright. Bluevestman (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

My user subpage

Please do not edit my user pages. I would prefer if you make a copy of the stub list and edit it within your user pages. Thank you and happy editing, -1ctinus📝🗨 23:41, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

:We should really have a wiki space article for this, and split the list by articles that should be expanded, and should be removed. -1ctinus📝🗨 00:15, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
::Sorry. I should have asked if it was alright for me to update that list. And I do agree that what I plan on doing is probably not the best way to find out what stub article is salvageable and what should be dropped. Bluevestman (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Remove the stubs

Why are all the stub removals in the People section?-TonyTheTiger (T / C ↗ / WP:FOUR ↗ / WP:CHICAGO ↗ / WP:WAWARD ↗) 13:51, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

:I am planning on nominating the stubs in the other section, don't worry. Bluevestman (talk) 18:03, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy 25th Anniversary of Wikipedia!!

Feel free to read my story at User:Interstellarity/My Story and join in for some Wikipedia-related fun. I hope you like it. Interstellarity (talk) 22:28, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

"飞车过大关" and GeogSage

Hello! I saw this message ↗ you made after 飞车过大关's extremely rude comment, and I was wondering, what did you mean when you said that? Do you think 飞车过大关 is a sock of GeogSage? also, who is GeogSage? '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 19:53, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

:{{Comment}} This is the only account I edit under and as far as I know have no relationship with @飞车过大关 (It is possible, although unlikely, that people I know edit Wikipedia and I'm unaware of their activities, so it is possible I do know this editor in person. Statistically unlikely, but I've met Wikipedia editors before). I suggest you take this up with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations ↗ if you have any doubts. As for why it was said, I speculate that generally vital articles discussions get heated, and several editors don't like things I've proposed or ways that I've voted in the past. I don't think Bluevestman thinks I'm associated with 飞车过大关, I think saw a similarity between myself and 飞车过大关 and decided to disparage 飞车过大关 by comparing them to me. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 23:03, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
::I wasnt accusing you of being a sock I just didnt know what Bluevestman meant when they said that '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 23:05, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
:::They are the only ones who can speak to their exact meaning. I will state that Bluevestman should use caution when making such statements, as it creates a hostile environment and other editors might choose to escalate statements like that as Wikipedia:Wikibullying ↗ (specifically, the "the use of bullying tactics to discredit or eliminate an editor with an opposing viewpoint. ↗") or just a general violations of Wikipedia:Civility ↗ (specifically, "belittling a fellow editor, including the use of judgemental edit summaries or talk-page posts ↗"). I'm not going to do that as I think the possible consequences from ANI are worse then is warranted, but we've lost a lot of editors on Vital for stuff like this. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 23:27, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
:::First, this reply is directed at {{ping|Finnfrog99}}, and none of my responses concern Bluevestman. The only connection Bluevestman has to this matter is that his teasing, sarcastic remarks were taken out of context by a certain Irish user with ulterior motives, who used them to allege that my editing actions might be illegal, disruptive to the voting process. Second, let me share my view on Finnfrog99's point: since I joined the VA discussions, some have consistently tried to frame me—a user who has never left China—as a sockpuppet of some English Wikipedia editor, using that as a pretext to attack me. So I will not repeat my denial of being anyone's puppet. That some see me as a puppet only shows their hostility toward anti‑Western‑centrist and deletionist voices like mine. From my over a decade of experience on the internet, it is clear to me that such rhetoric aims to silence dissent. As a dissenter from China, I've seen this tactic all too often—yet I never expected English Wikipedia, which prides itself on being free, to indulge in such groundless accusations. How bizarre. Anyone who has participated in VA discussions for more than a year can clearly see that my views differ considerably from those of GeogSage. On this progressive‑leaning platform, my own views might be closer to a right‑wing ideology of cultural conservatism and Chinese nationalism, although I do not truly believe in it myself; I am merely a deletionist. There is definitely no other participant in English Wikipedia's VA discussions who is similar to me.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Also, to clarify why Bluevestman likened me to GeogSage: I oppose the Level 5 list allocating too many slots to sports and entertainment, and I favor cutting down biographies on that list—views that may resemble GeogSage's. As a frequent VA participant, Bluevestman inevitably associated my radical rants with GeogSage.飞车过大关 (talk) 04:41, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Again, I am not accusing anyone of being a sock! the only thing I was doing is asking for clarification as to what he meant!!
::::I just thought that the way he phrased it is the same way you would phrase finding a new sock of a banned user, I asked him if that is how he intended (I am not accusing you! Just asking if that was how he meant it)
::::You do not need to accuse me of being an "irish user with ulterior motives" when I think something you said is rude, saying "Debating you is pointless" is, in my opinion, a very rude thing to say, but again, I did not come here to argue that, so there is no need to accuse me of having ulterior motives '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 08:06, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Finnfrog99}}Thank you very much for your clarification. My own experiences in real life, as well as several instances on English Wikipedia where I was met with suspicion, have made me prone to making unfounded—even emotional—assumptions in communities. I apologise for any offence I may have caused you. That said, I do think that debating the underlying meaning of someone's remarks is rather pointless (unless those remarks are far-reaching or well-supported by evidence); otherwise, even my own statements would be enough to warrant criticism many times over. I really think that some things are better left vague than overly clear. 飞车过大关 (talk) 13:01, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Not to speak for Froglord, but they have a userbox stating they identify as neurodivergent. Asking for clarification on ambiguous statements is something that any editor is free to do. Per Wikipedia:Autistic editors ↗, "It's always worthwhile to rephrase an explanation or ask for an alternative explanation." Again, not saying this is the reason they asked, however editors should be encouraged to ask for clarification where ever necessary, regardless of how they choose to identify. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 13:11, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::(I know this reply is a few days late, but only thought to say this now) You are mostly right, but I wanted to correct you on one thing; I do not identify as autistic, as I have been professionally diagnosed and know that I do have it '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 22:21, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Pardon the wording. On your page, you have disclosed that about yourself, and it is impossible to know what your medical history is, so I mean you are identifying yourself as neurodivergent, or identify with the term. That said, neurodivergent ↗ is not a diagnosis, and your userbox states "This user may be neurodivergent." It is impossible for me (or anyone) to know your diagnosis status from that alone, and the qualifier "may" would normally make me lean away from assuming a formal diagnosis, although I understand you likely did not create the userbox yourself. Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as dismissive. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 23:35, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
:Well, this is something. No, that statement was not an accusation of sock puppetry. It was just meant to be a sly remark in response to 飞车过大关 outing themself as having the same intense anti-sport bias that GeogSage is notoriously known to possess. They are very clearly not the same person. For all their faults, 飞车过大关 does provide an unique perspective that this is needed for this project as someone who is obviously not from the West. (Unlike someone who just wants to replace 90% of our sports content with obscure geography topics.) Bluevestman (talk) 19:55, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

The section headers breaking

The only thing I did is add a reply to your opposition to removing {{va link|Senet}}, via wikipedia's built in reply feature and then ''that'' happened. I dont know what caused it or why it happened. Should I report this somewhere? '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 22:18, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

:I have no idea. Bluevestman (talk) 22:26, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::To reply to your reply in Senet, I do not see that on the article, games like Tag (game) ↗ definitely predate it. If you mean earliest board games, it being the earliest board game is debated, Mehen (game) ↗ could be the oldest game, or the chess-like game played in turkey that is mentioned on Board game#Ancient era ↗, so I dont think having an oldest board game entry is warranted due to the debatable nature of such an entry. '''''Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk)''''' 22:34, 5 July 2026 (UTC)