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Maybe join other statisticians

Hi Ca3tki!

You are welcome to join us and add this user-box.

{{User WikiProject Statistics}}

Best regards,  '''Kiefer'''.Wolfowitz 22:26, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Measurement

Mmm, well, perhaps you could advise: I wanted to add something statistical to the stuff about measurement, a la David Hand. I cannot work out where to put it. His view was of course that statisticians have neglected measurement for too long but I think his book and JRSSA article are worth citing. Any ideas? Ca3tki (talk) 22:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:I think that User:Melcombe has the best knowledge of WP statistics articles, and could better advise you.
:Maybe you could mention measurement in relation to Wayne Fuller's book (or maybe another Iowa econometrician) or the SEM people, like Kenneth A. Bollen ↗....
:Cheers,  '''Kiefer'''.Wolfowitz 23:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
::I guess I was thinking more about the theory of what it means to measure something statistically. I'm not sure that anyone else has attempted what David Hand has done. I'm just a bit wary of starting a whole new article on statistical approaches to measurement as it would be just one author to rely on. I'll have to think about it. Thanks anyway Ca3tki (talk) 23:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Hi Ca3tki!

:::Don't worry about writing text at first. If you can provide excellent references, particularly to on-line sources, then the reader is well served. I would suggest looking at a standard handbook, encyclopedia, or dictionary of statistics (econometrics, psychometrics) and finding an article or two about measurement. Just try to provide a handful of the best references, and then write what you can using Hand.
:::My best article is Shapley–Folkman lemma ↗, which has citations to excellent economic references (the ''Handbooks of Economics ↗'' and the ''New Palgrave ↗'' and draft textbooks by the leading researchers.)

:::(Since you want to use one reference, at first, it can be a challenge to avoid close paraphrasing, including duplicating the structure of passages from Hand: Ask me for help if you have questions. You can also draft your article in your user space.)

:::All articles begin with a first babble, and then grow in ways that their initial authors could not foresee. Just write with an aim towards the truth, and everything will be fine. :)
:::Melcombe is much more systematic and encyclopedic than me. I write more about my own interests and THE TRUTH, and then try to edit myself towards a neutral point of view that honestly represents the main serious points of view on contentious issues. I think Melcombe starts more by reading a few encyclopedic sources one day and then writing a good article based on them the next; his way is probably better than mine. ;)

:::Best regards,
::: '''Kiefer'''.Wolfowitz 11:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

:::P.S. 17:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Here's a good reference:

{{cite journal |title=Measurement error models (Vignettes for the Year 2000: Theory and Methods, ed. by George Casella)|last=Stefanski|first=L. A.|journal=Journal of the American Statistical Association |volume=95|issue=452?|month=December?|year=2000 |pages=1349–1353??|jstor=2669786?? |mr=1825292??}}

{{cite book|chapter=Measurement error models (Chapter 4: Theory and methods of statistics, ed. by George Casella)|title=Statistics in the 21st century|editor1-last=Raftery|editor1-first=Adrian E.|editor1-link=Adrian Raftery|editor2-last=Tanner|editor2-first=Martin A.|editor3-last=Wells|editor3-first=Martin T|series=Monographs on Statistics and Applied Probability|volume=93|publisher=Chapman and Hall, and CRC|other=American Statistical Association|last=Stefanski|first=L. A.|year=2002|pages=461–470|jstor=2669786??|mr=1825292??}}

:Stefanski does cite Wayne Fuller's ''Measurement Error Models'', besides his ''Measurement error in nonlinear models'' (with Carroll and Rupert).  '''Kiefer'''.Wolfowitz 17:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Peter Whittle ↗

You may enjoy writing about a Kiwi Cambridge statistician, Peter Whittle ↗. His autobiography and on-line histories of the Cambridge Statistical Laboratory are often hilarious and always instructive, and so are worth reading just for fun.  '''Kiefer'''.Wolfowitz 11:21, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
:Never heard of him. I will have to look up whathe has said about the stats lab, though. It wouldn't surprise me if I had read some before and forgotten about it.Ca3tki (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to comment at Monty Hall problem ↗ RfC

You are invited to comment on the following probability-related RfC:

'''Talk:Monty Hall problem#Conditional or Simple solutions for the Monty Hall problem? ↗'''

--Guy Macon (talk) 17:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

While the public understanding of probability is interestin, I wouldn't say I was interested in finite sets. Simply I would refer you to Polyà if you want to talk about problem solving. For me,this article is not important enough to spend time on. Ca3tki (talk) 07:01, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Census

Thank you for helping to give the article the scope to justify removing the list. The historical examples I think can now be condensed, to provide a useful background to the practice. The 'modern' census now needs to be properly introduced, and summarised. There is much potential for other change. I invite you to be bold yourself :) -- zzuuzz ↗ (talk) ↗ 23:02, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Along the lines of being bold, I see you undid my edit to this article from a few years ago in which I mentioned the problem of enumeration in what in the U.S. is called "group quarters", stating that this gave a U.S. focus to the piece. I am afraid that by NOT mentioning the U.S. in this instance and instead using the term "communal residences", you may be making the article overstep its bounds. I do not know what other countries term such quarters/ residences, but I DO know what they are termed in the US, which is why I mentioned it. I also know that the term "communal residences" is NOT used in the US for any part of the US census. Giving a specific example of a term used in the US does not mean the article then has a US focus, it only means it has a US example, and taking out such an example and putting in a term that does not have meaning in any census doesn't help the article at all. I hope you see where I have been headed with this. I will not undo your edit, but I ask you to consider your tactic on this one. Thanks. '''KDS''''''4444'''''Talk'' 17:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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