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2026 Senedd elections

Thank you for your patient explanation and for updating the main article. I am excited by the prospect of the PR aspect of it, and disappointed by the three councils who voted NOT to trial PR for their own elections. I may be a quarter Welsh. My grandfather, when he was a young reporter, recounted a chance conversation with a boy in the street, who was probably a Welsh speaker (in 1903, in Bangor). Later, he wrote campaigning material for the Liberal Party and knew Lloyd George. My mother went to school in Denbigh, and her mother lived in Llandrindod Wells for some time. No party is going to get an overall majority; it will be fascinating to see how they manage, and may influence Westminster MPs whether or not to adopt PR for their elections. Nick Barnett (talk) 17:53, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

"The new consensus is to phase out "(UK Parliament constituency)""

You reverted my edit to South Cotswolds ↗ (UK Parliament constituency), because you claim that "The new consensus is to phase out (UK Parliament constituency)". Who or what decided this consensus and where is it defined? The majority of other UK constituencies still use (UK Parliament constituency), so why did you revert only this change and not change all the other constituencies?

I live in this constituency and I also live in the geographical South Cotswolds. The 2 things cover different areas. The constituency covers only a fraction of the geographical South Cotswolds, therefore your reversion of the title of the page makes it very misleading.

My understanding is that Wikipedia applies such bracketed definitions to page titles, to minimize confusion, where the same term may have multiple meanings and might require disambiguation. This is most certainly very often the case with UK parliamentary constituencies, whose boundaries are defined by the Boundary Commission, to encompass a similar number of voters with various demographics. The names applied to the constituencies do not define the names in general use of a geographical area, they only define the name of the Parliamentary Constituency covering a particular area.

While there is no separate page for the South Cotswolds (geographical) there is a page for the Cotswolds ↗, but to anyone unfamiliar with the region, your reversion makes it look as though the constituency would be the southern half of the region, which it is not.

Furthermore, the Cotswolds National Landscape (AONB), as defined by the UK government, covers a part of the Cotswolds region and the southern half of this also covers a different and larger area than the constituency.

I strongly suggest you reimplement my change or give an explanation as to why this page should now have a misleading title.Lkingscott (talk) 08:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

:@Lkingscott, the discussions leading to the new consensus for removing (UK Parliament constituency) can be found here ↗, where it was supported for removing the disambiguation where there is no other article by that name, with a further recent discussion ↗ supporting trimming it to (constituency) when there are other non-constituency articles by that name. With it only kept when there are other constituencies by that name.
:WP:NCUKPARL ↗ was the guideline that made an exception to Wikipedia article title rules that had allowed all constituencies to use "(UK Parliament constituency)" in their titles. But it is now depreciated/no longer in effect.
:Most UK Parliament constituency articles, particularly those more recent (as many haven't gotten to the older ones yet), so all for 2024 etc have had "(UK Parliament constituency)" removed or shortened now. I and others have done the change for most other (newer) and most current constituencies, not had the time yet to do all the historical ones.
:There is currently no "South Cotswolds" article for the geographic area, so no reason for WP:DISAMBIGUATION ↗. Be free to create South Cotswolds (area) ↗ and if that becomes more visited than the constituency, the constituency then can have "(constituency)" added. '''DankJae''' 10:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Abrahamic religions thumbnail

Hello DankJae,
I saw that you changed the format here ↗ because symbols of non-Abrahamic religions were showing up in the thumbnail, which is obviously incorrect and not what we’re going for.
I know almost nothing about image formatting, I don’t know what caused it or how to fix it, but the new thumbnail is cropped to show just the cross, which I would think is not what we’re going for either. Is there a way to make the uncropped row of three symbols appear in the thumbnail? Mikewem (talk) 23:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

:@Mikewem, made a more square image for it ↗, seem to work in the thumbnail now (refresh your cache). MW:Extension:PageImages ↗ does prefer more square or rectangular images, which is why it chose the more square religion sidebar picture over the previous vertical one, although it can be overriden with a "class" parameter. '''DankJae''' 00:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
::Looks great!
::I really appreciate your work on this and your explanation of the technical stuff Mikewem (talk) 00:40, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Welsh Not Reversal of edits

Why have you removed my Verifiable sources query? Surely that should remain while the discussion is ongoing? Welsh-boi1 (talk) 20:48, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

:@Welsh-boi1, Llewee stated in their edit summary that it is from "jones, Gareth Elwyn (2000). "15 The Welsh Language and the Blue Books of 1847"", but if that source does not state those things then be free to re-add the template or {{tl|failed verification}}. Other edits that have been disputed, please discuss them first, you may have a case. Hope any issues can be resolved on such an important topic.
:Diolch '''DankJae''' 20:58, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks. The source doesn't mention anything on the pages given regarding teaching in English being "generally supported" or anything on it being considered "the language of economic advancement" (I must admit to not having read the whole book). I have asked Llewee for more clarity/explanation on the Article's talkpage, but I'll add back the Verifiable Template. Welsh-boi1 (talk) 21:04, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Cadw names

Hey Jae! I've got Dolwyddelan and Criccieth on my watchlist, so I've noticed the changes you've made. I think it's fine to mention what Cadw has done, but reckon it can be simplified to something like 'Since 2024, Cadw have used the name "[Name]" in both English and Welsh'. They've not so much renamed the castles and other sites as simply switched to using Welsh names exclusively in some cases.

In general, I'd also say Cadw's position on names isn't notable enough for the lead. Often it's one name variation among several a site has had over the centuries. A.D.Hope (talk) 11:35, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

:@A.D.Hope, well they have technically re-named what it is in English, they changed the English name, but open to other wording. Maybe "Since 2024, Cadw uses the Welsh name [name] in English"?
:If Cadw is the only one managing and owning the building, and that in effect they have renamed it in English (just as with Eryri and Bannau), like every other rename, they are usually mentioned in the lead? Didn't add to leads to buildings that Cadw aren't solely responsible for, for example those privately owned or National Trust. '''DankJae''' 11:47, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::With the national parks we've been quite careful to state that their park authorities have chosen to use their Welsh names only, rather than renaming the areas they manage, and it's similar with Cadw. It's choosing to use Castell Cricieth rather than Criccieth Castle, but it's not renamed it in general. Others can still use either name.
::Whether or not to mention the change in the lead is ultimately a question of prominence, and I'm just not sure how prominent this is. The better castle leads generally give a brief architectural history, a general history, and the usual basic location, ownership, and access information. Cadw naming policy doesn't fit easily into that.
::As a side note, the source you've used doesn't give Cadw's reasoning, that I can see. It supports that it uses those names, but not the reason why. A.D.Hope (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::For the sites Cadw manage, and is solely responsible for what is physically on the building, surely seems as much as a rename as the national parks did, just like with any other rename it'll will take time until all the signs are replaced. Cadw is therefore the official body for the castle, so don't see why it shouldn't be mentioned, but happy for it to be trimmed shorter.
:::Trying to find a source that explains it more, but the heading does mention "standardising" so referenced that, in line with all the other standardising efforts. Cannot find Cadw's magazine online that Sirfurboy referenced, unless we use the quote they gave ↗. '''DankJae''' 12:11, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::::I'm fine for it to be mentioned, it's more about where. As it currently stands, I think a body mention is appropriate unless there's a specific reason to bring up a castle's name in the lead. Caernarfon Castle ↗ doesn't mention in the lead that the place was previously called Carnarvon Castle and Caernarvon Castle, in line with the settlement, and this is broadly similar.
::::I don't think Cadw magazine is published online, so unless Sirfurboy still has that copy we might be a bit stuck. A.D.Hope (talk) 12:23, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::Still dropping Castle for Castell is a bigger change than changing the spelling to match the place, as it is specific to the castle itself. For some of the long leads I did only tag it at the end of a sentence when it mentions Cadw.
:::::I'll try and shorten it further. '''DankJae''' 12:31, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::Well I suppose that's the thing, 'castle' hasn't been dropped ''per se'' because it's still being used for all these sites, just not by Cadw. Maybe we should have a discussion over at the Wales project? A.D.Hope (talk) 12:38, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Castle as in the proper name, obviously it is still a “castle”. '''DankJae''' 12:43, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Let's open a Wales discussion and just see what the others think. I can't see anyone objecting to mentioning the change at all, but you don't need to figure out the wording alone A.D.Hope (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::@A.D.Hope, I've decided to reduce it to a footnote? That okay? '''DankJae''' 13:11, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::see Bronllys Castle ↗ as an example '''DankJae''' 13:11, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::Sure, I've no issues with that. I'm certainly not saying you have to run it past me, though A.D.Hope (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::Just not in the mood for a long discussion again. In the end, as with the previous one, it was more of a dispute between us, so if we can compromise now, saves all the hassle. '''DankJae''' 13:16, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::No worries. I'm going to step away from it a bit now, but I can't see this being a massive issue. A.D.Hope (talk) 13:27, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

July 2026

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Thank you. '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 01:49, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

:@Zackmann08, I added it to the template though, that's why it worked? The template does not have extensive documentation to begin with. If there is some little thing I missed I apologise, but surely that would be more constructive than mass reverting and warning me. Otherwise, I'll look in removing the infobox. '''DankJae''' 07:13, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

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