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NHL standings

Stop updating the NHL standings in the middle of the day. The standings are supposed to updated at the end of the night when every team has played. Yowashi (talk) 21:41, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

:Alright, didn't know that, thank you! Dave Ondzuls (talk) 15:35, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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Updates

Please wait until all matches from the same starting time are completed, we don't go game-by-game (unless there is a major delay at one game). Kante4 (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

:Alright, thank you for the suggestion! Dave Ondzuls (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

3x3

Please check the official standings (which are given). 2 wins in 2 games is ahead of 2 games in 3 wins. Kante4 (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

fiba world cup

watch out for the possibility of 3-way ties in the standings. For example Canada, Latvia, and France could still all finish with 2 wins and if Canada loses by a lot to Latvia they could still be out. Unlikely but still possible.18abruce (talk) 12:23, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

L.Vitozzi

Please, not makes a wrong ''correction''. She won 2 gold medals in 2018-19 season, 1 at the previous season, and the 4th now. No one at the World Championships Noel baran (talk) 12:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

:Yeah, I got a bit confused, apologies. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 12:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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2025 IIHF World Championship ↗

I noticed you swapped USA and Sweden in the groups, where did you find that information? I can't see anywhere that the IIHF has announced the groups and there are other ways that Sweden and Denmark could end up being in separate groups.18abruce (talk) 23:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

:Usually they swap the top-seeded host to the other group with the closest seed which is in the other group. I do think that it's the case now too, but we couldn't be sure because of the reason IIHF hasn't announced the groups yet. We'll have to wait and see. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 14:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

::It has happened twice before with shared hosting, in 2017 Germany moved groups (higher), in 2013 Sweden moved groups (lower), there is no 'usually'. In 2018 Denmark wanted to sell a Sweden group and a Denmark group, the lower ranked Denmark was moved. I am going to move Sweden back to the group where they are seeded until there is a source.18abruce (talk) 20:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
:::The Czech hockey federation just confirmed the groups. I'm guessing that they must be official. You can have a look. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733414159315894445/1245404708160540723/GOwIX1IXoAAvMNR.png?ex=6658a104&is=66574f84&hm=7147b9cc6c273e88eb0d4c814f41673db58c672f5f65b981b6fc10f8c738d2ab&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=530&height=662 Dave Ondzuls (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Players name

Accept the practice for some players name. This is Wikipedia, not UEFA. Island92 (talk) 21:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

:Wikipedia pages are based ONLY on official sources and we are not allowed to put in the information by ourselves. Please, stop editing them. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::Not always like that. Please stop insisting on causing edit war. Island92 (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, it is ALWAYS like that. Please read Wikipedia guidelines and then come back. I will cause editing war if you don't stop editing the source. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::::You might be blocked if insisting. I've warned you. This is not a threat. Island92 (talk) 21:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Okay. I just really want you to actually go and read the Wikipedia guidelines. I repeat, ALL of the pages are supposed to be based on official sources.
:::::If we don't come to a middle point in this argument, is there some kind of an admin/a person who could solve this situation? Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::Even the Turkish-languaged page uses their short names. And once again, it's not practice, it has always been like that and no one had any problems with that. What arguments make you think you're in right here? Leprazoori (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::What does this have to do with turkish-languaged pages? The official source for this competition is UEFA.com, so you should stick to it.
:::Well if it's the practice, then it's wrong and that should be finally changed because the official source, UEFA.com, says something otherwise.
:::What do you mean by "you're in right here"?
:::Also, my question is, if we don't come to a middle point in this argument, is there an admin/a person who can solve this? Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::There is no situation to be solved. That is practice/consensus established here on Wikipedia in the Football Project for some Players name, despite what UEFA says. You are new to Wikipedia. Just that. And the same for Fabián rather than Fabián Ruiz. Island92 (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::::So I'm saying, maybe the practice should be changed since Wikipedia is a page which relies on official sources and it's one of the most important rules here? Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::If you want to change the practice, start a talk topic and not an edit war. It should stay like that until we don't come to a consensus. Leprazoori (talk) 21:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::For that start a new talk in the Wikipedia Football Project. Island92 (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::::{{ec}} {{tq|The official source for this competition is UEFA.com, so you should stick to it}} So if UEFA.com spells a player's name incorrectly, we must as well? We are not an exact copy of UEFA, we source some of their information, but we have our own editorial standards and guidelines which supersede UEFA's own internal practices. I agree with the other users that we should not write the player's names in these ways. Please also be advised of WP:3RR ↗, you are on 10 reverts today when users are not supposed to exceed 3. Any further edit warring and this will likely result at WP:AN/EW ↗. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

June 2024

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:Thanks for message.
:I just wanted to ask about this, if we can't find an agreement point with the other users, is there a person who can solve the situation? Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::There is no situation to be solved. That is practice/consensus established here on Wikipedia in the Football Project for some Players name, despite what UEFA says. You are new to Wikipedia. Just that. And the same for Fabián rather than Fabián Ruiz. Island92 (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Accept this practice and move on. Island92 (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Please stick to our own talk page and let me have a conversation with the user who left the message. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:Regarding {{tq|is there a person who can solve the situation}}: not a single person, see Wikipedia:Consensus ↗ and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution ↗. We try to resolve issues through discussion to gain a consensus. The best way to resolve the matter would be to discuss with other users on Talk:UEFA Euro 2024 Group F ↗ or Talk:UEFA Euro 2024 ↗. If that does not work, you can talk with other users at WT:FOOTY ↗. For contentious issues, Wikipedia:Requests for comment ↗ and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard ↗ serve as further steps to resolve the conflict, often involving outside input. Just please avoid the back-and-forth edit warring, it is extremely unproductive. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Euro 2024 - Knockout Stage

Please take care that Croatia is mathematically behind of Hungary and 3rd from Group D/E.
So the only possible way that Croatia could qualify i throught ABDE combination. Stigni (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

:Oh yeah, I didn't properly think about that. Thanks! Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

De Jong

Hey, please see here ↗ for example. Or the handball tournament ↗. The first letter is in caps and that is consistent throughout the sports for years. Kante4 (talk) 17:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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IIHF

Please see this ↗ for future edits, thank you. Kante4 (talk) 17:30, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

:Had completely forgotten about that nuance in the format, thanks for pointing out. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 17:45, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
::All good. ;) Kante4 (talk) 18:08, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

HUN eliminated IIHF.

edit summary does not explain well; HUN wins out they have 9, GER fails to get to 9, USA fails to get to 9, AUT gets at least one more point, then HUN wins tie-breaker vs Latvia for 4th. I may be overlooking something but I think it is still possible.18abruce (talk) 19:08, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

FIFA Tiebreakers

Hey dude, just so you know because I see you keep editing it, the tiebreakers for a group start once one game finishes. Not all teams in a group needs to play for the tiebreakers to start. So please stop changing it, and if you want to debate it, please talk on the talk page of the Template 2026 FIFA World Cup table article. Thank you LuckyDuckyIsOk (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hey. Since when is that the case? In all of the previous tournaments, tiebreakers were being used only when the teams in question had played their game, not sooner. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:34, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::Look at Google. If you search up World Cup Standings, you can see they apply at the end of one game. The best example right now is Group E LuckyDuckyIsOk (talk) 21:35, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::We are not supposed to fetch standings from "Google", I hope you know that. Dave Ondzuls (talk) 21:54, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::::It's also on the FIFA website LuckyDuckyIsOk (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2026 (UTC)