User Talk: Ed Moise

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JMS Old Al (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow! What an addition!

I have bookmarked your bibliography that you appended to Laotian Civil War ↗. I thought I had a pretty good grasp of the literature, but you have added so much more.

Many thanks.

Georgejdorner (talk) 02:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Links

Hi, Ed. I'm sorry, but we don't get to link to our own websites on Wikipedia; I've had to remove all the links to added to your Clemson faculty pages. --jpgordon<sup><small>∇∆∇∆</small></sup> 15:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:I apologize if I was in violation of a rule, but I could not, and cannot, see a conflict of interest in my adding links to bibliography pages. I maintain those pages as a public service. They do not selectively list works that support my own points of view. They are simply reference works that I thought users of Wikipedia would find useful. Ed Moise (talk) 20:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:You could make a better case for removing the bibliography link that I added to Westmoreland v. CBS ↗ than for most of the others. That bibliography, unlike most of mine, does have a discernible viewpoint; the user can tell that I tend to side with CBS against Westmoreland. But it has an enormous amount of material representing the Westmoreland side of the issue. The user who wants fast access to material representing Westmoreland's viewpoint can find much more of it by going through my bibliography than by any other equally quick and simple means that I can think of. Ed Moise (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Initialing ↗ moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Initialing ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability''' and '''it is unclear what topic is being discussed'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. aesurias (talk) 05:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

:Please explain what you mean by "establish notability."
:Would changing the title to "Initialing an Agreement" meet your concerns about making the topic clear?
:I think it might help if I explained the origin of the article. On June 4, 1954, representatives of France and the State of Vietnam initialed the text of an agreement, but it was so short and lacking in details that they could not sign it without further negotiations to clarify its meaning. Those further negotiations were inconclusive and the agreement was never signed.
:A number of authors failed to notice or failed to understand the distinction between initialing and signing. There is a widespread belief that the agreement was signed and became legally binding on that date. I intend to edit at least one page of Wikipedia pointing out that the agreement was only initialed not signed. I don't think putting a complete explanation of the distinction into the page for State of Vietnam ↗ and perhaps other pages would be a good idea. I thought it better to create a page on Initialing, and have a link to that page in my statements that the 1954 agreement was initialed but not signed.
:Is there a way of solving my problem that you think would be better? Ed Moise (talk) 07:16, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
::The one (1) source used doesn't demonstrate notability of the term/topic being discussed. Adding more can rectify this.
::The primary issue is that, when reading the draft, many people would struggle to understand what initialing is. Try something like "In negotiations, '''initialing''' is a word used to describe a non-binding agreement made before both parties are officially ready to sign. In such circumstances, the parties may initial the agreement to certify what they have agreed upon." aesurias (talk) 07:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
:::If I added citations for two agreements being initialed without being signed (one in which the agreement that had been initialed was never signed, and one in which signature followed three days after initialing) would that be enough? Or do you need more?
:::I will need to think about refining language. Ed Moise (talk) 07:45, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
:::I have found the issues are more varied than I had been aware. If there is to be an article, it should be one longer and more complex than I have time to write this year.
:::Thank you for preventing me from going off half-cocked. Ed Moise (talk) 04:41, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

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Helping us out

I believe you wrote this chapter ↗. Could you cite from your published work to help with these articles: Vietnam War ↗ (particularly the infobox first) and Vietnam War casualties ↗? Thank you. ~2026-21913-49 ↗ (talk) 02:57, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

:Yes, I wrote that. But I thought there was a pretty firm rule that I am not allowed to cite my own work. Ed Moise (talk) 06:00, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
::Interesting, but what a weird rule! I think it's unfair. ~2026-21913-49 ↗ (talk) 06:43, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::It is a good rule. There are a lot of Wikipedia pages that I could improve by putting an a reference to my own work, but if I could do it others could do it, and Wikipedia would be swamped with self-references. Ed Moise (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

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25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello, Ed Moise. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Initialing ↗, a page you created, has not been edited in at least five months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted ↗, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it ↗ again or request ↗ that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:06, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Initialing ↗

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:Discussion with another editor led me to realize I did not understand the issues as well as I had thought, and I abandoned my plan for that page.
:I guess I should have deleted my draft, but I did not realize that not doing so might cause a problem. Sorry. Ed Moise (talk) 01:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)