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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Templates calling Infobox religious biography ↗

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A tag has been placed on :Category:Templates calling Infobox religious biography ↗ indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category ↗, a category redirect ↗, under discussion at Categories for discussion ↗, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion ↗.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by visiting the page ↗ and removing the speedy deletion tag.   '''''L'''''iz '''''Read!''''' ↗ '''''Talk!''''' 21:59, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for your comment on the TfD regarding the prior RfC. I don't know how "discourage" has any value if we're not even allowed to substitute the template (because someone else can just go in and revert the subtitution). Harsh language? DonIago (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
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:I hardly think what you wrote above is even past neutral in harshness. Gonnym (talk) 16:05, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
::Sorry for the delay; I didn't realize I hadn't added this page to my watchlist.
::I rather meant that I wasn't sure what form "discouraging" use of the template was supposed to take if we weren't even allowed to substitute it, and was joking that we could direct harsh language at the editor(s) using it. DonIago (talk) 02:05, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Italic disambiguation ↗

25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Template:Italic disambiguation ↗ has been nominated for merging ↗ with Template:Italic dab2 ↗. You are invited to comment on the discussion at '''the template's entry''' ↗ on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. '''''Steel1943''''' (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox artist

Love what you are doing, but you gotta deprecate the aliases and fix them first. {{clc|Category:Pages using infobox artist with unknown parameters}} was empty before your change. At current has over 400 pages. '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 16:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

:Strange. I was looking at the conflicting category and it was at 0. What am I missing? Gonnym (talk) 16:43, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::Conflicting only shows if both are in use. So a page would only appear there if (for example) BOTH {{para|field}} AND {{para|known_for}} were in use. If just one is in use, there is no conflict. That doesn't mean that no pages are using {{para|field}} though. '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 16:45, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Does that make sense? Let me know if I can clarify further... As you know, I'm all for cleaning up conflicting parameters, it just is a bit more of a process.
:::Also, about to pull the trigger on TM:Infobox sportsperson ↗ so buckle up! '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 17:21, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Ah! Completely missed that. Gonnym (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::Yea this shit is complicated.... '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 17:48, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Re Special:Diff/prev/1360790335 ↗. Misunderstood and was trying to clear an error on the testcases page. My bad! '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 17:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Abbasid invasions of Asia Minor

Template has been added to my article of the Abbasid invasion of Asia Minor (779) ↗. Arxyium (talk) 09:15, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

:You've not actually added it. But looking at that page, all the links in the template are also in Template:Campaignbox Arab–Byzantine Wars ↗ so we don't actually need both. Gonnym (talk) 12:20, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
::oh. Arxyium (talk) 13:03, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Empty params

I've given up trying to fight with you and Zack about empty params, but the priority for me going forward will be to clear out the used invalid parameters first, because those are the ones that are causing "disruption" (if you can call it that). Those are the pages where people will be confused why the parameter-with-value isn't doing anything, so we might as well clear those out first given there are a ton of pages to go through. After that is completed there is less of a "rush" to to speak to get the (empty) unused parameters out of any template calls. Primefac (talk) 10:05, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

:"Unknown" empty parameters and "Unknown" non-empty parameters display the same thing, which is nothing. So if we say that we support removal of unknown parameters, it makes absolutely no difference if they have data or not. However, as someone who has maintained the TV infoboxes for 8 or so years, once we completely removed the "empty" parameters site-wide, we never got them returning to the tracking category. When they were left, new pages kept on showing up. So my personal experience is that empty parameters are an invitation to editors to fill them in.
:Now you can choose of course to exclude them from the run, but that just means that a non-bot will do the same edits, in a longer time. Gonnym (talk) 11:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::Right, I just wanted to let you know (in a non-edit summary way) why I was turning that on. I don't fundamentally disagree with your position, but I'm having enough issues with ''other'' bots and people complaining about borderline-cosmetic edits, and I don't really want my own bot dragged into that. Primefac (talk) 11:49, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Sure np. Just let me know when you are done so I can restore the empty param check. Gonnym (talk) 11:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Ecomodernism

Hi Gonnym - you might want to revisit the Ecomodernism tfd ↗ - the template's now in use. Grutness...''wha? ↗'' 04:21, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

:Great work. Since there are multiple keep votes, it will be kept anyways in 2 days. Gonnym (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

Your edits to Template:Redirect category

{{fyi|pointer=y}} Please see Template talk:Redirect category#Plural s - inside or outside the link? ↗. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

I have tried to work with you

I have tried SO MANY times to work with you. I reverted ONE change you made and asked you to discuss the change further... Your response was to blank out a page in my userspace and throw a temper-tantrum? VERY disappointing. Very sad that this is hwo you are choosing to end this. I asked for a discussion. Wasn't 100% opposed to using your solution but I wanted to discuss it. Very sad. '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 04:39, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

:It would appear you are taking a Wikibreak. Hope it is relaxing. When you return... I want to say I have enjoyed working with you and would genuinely like to do so again. I loved 99.9% of your work but disagreed with ONE change that you made as it blew up my workflow. I do not get to decide these things. As we all know, Wikipedia relies on WP:CONSENSUS ↗. If consensus is to implement your changes to the tracking category, so be it. All I was asking for was a discussion about the change you had implemented. WP:BRD ↗ and all. I hope that we can continue to work together, even if you do no return to this project. '''Zackmann''' (Talk to me ↗/What I been doing ↗) 03:53, 10 July 2026 (UTC)