User Talk: H Remster

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Sir

Sir, I can but agree. I was genuinely staggered to discover that the gentleman in question had not written it all himself as it certainly sounds as if he did. Why else would you include all those risible quotes? If I were the gentleman being Bio'd I would want to remove it all in haste in case anyone thought I approved of the content. Or more embarrassing for him even than that, perhaps he actually does. — Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 81.150.203.193 ↗ (talk) 13:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

A belated welcome!

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian ↗! Again, welcome! Doug Weller talk 12:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

A couple of helpful observations, I hope.

You are just as much an "officially sanctioned editer" as I am, you became such when you agreed to the Terms and Conditions when you registered your username. we are all volunteers who do it for fum, or because of belief in the worth of the project, which is huge btw. The only difference between us is in experience here.

Your other observation made me realise you may not know what a "watchlist" is. We use our watchlists to see all the recent changes to pages we are particularly interested in, I have over 7000 articles on my watchlist, and without it, I couldn't monitor the articles I am interested in particularly. You may have some articles already on your watchlist, as wikipedia initially sets itself to save pages you have edited to your watchlist. When you are logged in on a PC, your watchlist link is on the top line of the page - click it and see what happens. (I have no idea how this appears if you are on a mobile platform.) with that watchlist, I saw you had made an edit to the Transwoman Talk page, and here we are!!

The other thing you should take a look at is the "Recent changes" link on the left of the page, which is a "brute force" list of every edit to the project, maintained as a live updated link thing.

I hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions you may have. -'''Roxy''' the elfin dog . '''wooF''' 12:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

:Thank you - all new and helpful information. H Remster (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia's policy on logical consistency across articles

First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! And kudos on your argumentation at Talk:Trans woman ↗. <s>I did not realize until just now that you are new here, and probably would have gone a little easier, with a lot more explanation, and links to Wikipedia policies and guidelines ↗.</s> The "Welcome" message above threw me off. Doesn't matter, really; Welcome, anyway. So, my apologies if anything came across as too harsh.

Regarding your comments at Talk:Trans woman ↗ and Wikipedia's policy on logical consistency across articles, the answer is simple: there isn't one. Wikipedia has no policy on logical consistency across articles. This is on purpose, as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia ↗, and does not hold opinions on anything. We are a tertiary source ↗, and what we do is fairly simply stated: we go find reliable sources ↗ about a topic, and we summarize the gist of what they say, at the corresponding articles, taking care to reflect differences among reliable sources in proper proportion ↗ to their weight and number. That's it. Everything else is window dressing. If some AI genius comes along and writes a program that can scour the world for sources and summarize them, we won't need volunteer editors anymore.

So, in areas as rife with disagreement as Trans woman ↗ is all by itself, let alone in comparison with related topics such as Transgender ↗, Woman ↗, Female ↗, Feminism ↗, and so on, the fact that the preponderance of reliable sources for each of these topics, viewed separately, may not all come to a perfectly synchronous definition of related terms across articles, is hardly surprising. It would be pretty surprising, if they did.

Given the imperfect, inconsistent reality of the world we live in, or rather, of the way that reliable sources reflect that reality on a number of different topics, the articles about these different topics will each reflect their own set of sources, and even if executed perfectly by volunteer editors in each case, may well end up having inconsistent definitions across different articles. This is an inevitable consequence of our role here as summarizer/reporters, and not mathematicians or physicists attempting to organize all the world's information on a formal, logical basis. That is simply outside our remit. Given that, and the consensus-based ↗ guideline about the purpose of a Talk page ↗, namely, to '''discuss how to improve the article''', it is therefore not appropriate to use an article Talk page to try to enforce consistency across articles. That's beyond the scope of an article Talk page, in that no Wikipedia policy calls for such consistency.

If there were, a WikiProject ↗ Talk page might be a better venue for cross-article discussions, or perhaps, the Village pump ↗, or you could try to get Wikipedia's policy changed by taking it up at one of the policy pages, so that we *do* have to have logical consistency between articles. (Spoiler: a very rough row to hoe.) But not on the article Talk page, where it generates a lot of heat, and little light, and just ends up taking up everybody's time on a futile, fruitless path to nowhere. (Wikipedia policy and guidelines ↗, like article content, are *also* determined by consensus ↗; i.e., you can change the rules here. In theory, you cold just go into a policy page right now, and alter it to say that articles have to be logically consistent. You'd get reverted rapidly, but it's possible. There is very little here that is set in stone and *must* be followed; usually only when it has to do with laws of the United States where Wikimedia ↗ is based, and includes such things as avoiding WP:LIBEL ↗, legal threats, Wikipedia's licensing requirements ↗ such as copy attribution ↗ (when you copy from one Wikipedia article to another), and so on. Everything else is up for grabs.)

Anyway, sorry for taking up so much space on your talk page (by WP:OWNTALK ↗, with rare exceptions, you can delete anything on your Talk page) but I hope some of this helps bring you a little further up to date with the arcane thicket of "rules", such as they are, at Wikipedia. I think you'll be a great editor, so keep up the good work. And once again, welcome to Wikipedia! Mathglot (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Redact ↗, due to misreading your seniority here. Mathglot (talk) 22:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

:Mathglot, thank you for this. It's very late in my part of the world, but I'll try over the weekend to digest what you've written. In the meantime: no more comments on the Trans woman ↗ talk page. I succumbed to the urge to defend my honour when I really should have left it alone (although I did learn a bit in the process too, so it's not all bad). — Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by H Remster (talk • contribs ↗) 22:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
:: Me neither; I'm done with it for now; have other fish to fry. No worries, get some sleep! Happy editing, Mathglot (talk) 09:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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}}Rab V (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
::{{re|Rab V}} This is good, but why have you posted it here? You've mentioned personal opinions a couple of times but have yet to be drawn on what you have in mind. H Remster (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:::I have removed posts that seemed to violate WP:FORUM ↗ and other editors have pointed to it personal opinions as well. This is just a notice doesn't mean you have done anything wrong. Rab V (talk) 21:37, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
::::Just so you know, I've been given one by Rab too, and neither of us has done anything wrong. It really is just a little shot across the bows for future conduct enforcement. I do believe that your post was soon put back though. We are certainly not in notforum territory, as I stated on the page. -'''Roxy''' the elfin dog . '''wooF''' 21:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{re|Roxy the dog}} Thank you. I've woken up feeling a bit more pragmatic today, and I'm going to resist visiting the page if I can. There do seem to be efforts afoot to misrepresent what I've said, and I don't quite understand the motivation - it certainly isn't to make the article more informative or accessible. H Remster (talk) 11:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::I have no intention of returning to that talkpage or article in any substantial way. -'''Roxy''' the elfin dog . '''wooF''' 16:14, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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:Please, if you disagree with content, discuss at Talk:Trans woman ↗ and do not edit war to protect your version. Newimpartial (talk) 21:03, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Pinging

I am very much ''not'' an expert at this kind of thing, so perhaps I shouldn’t be giving advice, but I’m pretty sure that if the username comes up in red, then it’s failed. (Your username is always in red because you have not created a userpage.) Bobfrombrockley’s username is different from his signature (BobFromBrockley), and the username is case-sensitive. So if you want to ping him, you need to use the actual username: Bobfrombrockley. If you want to do it again, you would have to do it in a new post, on a new line, and the post should be signed. Regards Sweet6970 (talk) 10:36, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

:Many thanks for the tip. I'm thinking of giving up on this one, anyway. I've been conducting some OR today, and it seems that even the Spiked team are aware of the "right-wing" claims and pretty much scratch their heads and shrug their shoulders at them. H Remster (talk) 16:19, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
:: I’m not giving up – please don’t give up. It seems to me that there is scope for agreement on a possible wording, as I have been discussing on the talk page today. If it is the case that the sources saying it is right wing are considered left wing, and the sources saying that it is left wing are right wing, I would be content with a wording saying this. The important thing is that there is not agreement amongst the sources as to the orientation of Spiked. And what the Spiked team may think about it is irrelevant – Wikipedia is written for its readers, and they are currently being misinformed. And there is, of course, the danger of the echo-chamber – if Wikipedia says it is right-wing, then lazy journalists will also say it is right-wing, so then there will be more sources saying it is right wing….. Regards Sweet6970 (talk) 17:52, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

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}} I see the last notice on your page was in 2020, so it has "expired". Newimpartial (talk) 20:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

:Newimpartial, I've no idea what this is about, but I'm fine with it. H Remster (talk) 20:40, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

March 2023

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:If you continue to misgender BLP subjects (or anyone, really) as you did here ↗ you will be blocked from editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, you'll have to remind me who you are. H Remster (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I'm an administrator who is giving you a clear warning about misgendering. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::::Having talked to them, they've stated that they will comply with the pronoun policy and with BLP policy in general, but have also clarified that they're doing this purely out of fear of being banned and is not being genuine. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 13:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::Well, that's almost right, but you only need to worry about the bit up to "in general". H Remster (talk) 13:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::::Much appreciated, thanks. H Remster (talk) 13:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::::For what it's worth, in case you're really worried that I might try to edit a GENSEX article, I can assure you that I won't. I know the way it'll go, and life's too short. H Remster (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

June 2025

You have misgendered Imane Khelif in this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1293744675 ↗ in addition you have been doing nothing other than soapboxing about how you believe wikipedia to be deficient on gender issues. Please cease this uncivil and policy-violating path. Simonm223 (talk) 12:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:I concur. H Remster is just being blatantly transphobic at this point. And have been warned twice already. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 13:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::I was trying not to come down on any side as to Khelif's sex (I didn't mention Khelif's gender), but someone has now drawn my attention to Wikipedia's policy on pronoun usage, so I've stepped into line. H Remster (talk) 13:08, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I've moderated my previous comments. H Remster (talk) 13:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)