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Use of flag icons


Hi Hakuna Zar, I've had to revert your addition of flag icons to articles on Australian cities - please read MOS:FLAG ↗ for when usage of flag icons is appropriate, and when it is not. In this case, usage is inappropriate, as persons immigrating from these countries do not '''represent''' their countries, or current regimes. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

:Hi Bahudhara, thank you very much for your kind explanation. That sounds very logic, apologize if my edit caused any inconvenience. Once again thank you very much, and have a good day. Hakuna Zar (talk) 11:49, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Changi Airport


Aeroroutes article says only jeddah route will remain after end of march - no direct Riyadh route.
No riyadh flight is available direct on any search engine and is not acknowledged on Saudia Website.
To reinstate could you please show evidence for the direct flight.
Sidavies (talk) 03:03, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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There is an editor who shares similar interests to you, and I think you will probably encounter them whilst editing. They originally went by the username of User:Jellywings19, and added unsourced and at times rather implausible information on destinations to Indonesian aviation related topics. Examples of edits that they may make are:






Some of this may seem to be helpful, however the destination information and fleet information is sometimes correct, but sometimes it is fake.

You may want to read Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jellywings19/Archive ↗, and check out the way that a few of their sockpuppet accounts (you may be more familiar with the term: "pengguna siluman") have behaved.

Jellywings has been banned from the English Wikipedia due to persistent sockpuppetry (or as you may call it: using pengguna siluman). If you see a user who looks like them, you can leave a message on my talkpage letting me know, and I will take a look. Cheerio and happy editing! Mako001&nbsp;(C)&nbsp; ↗&nbsp;(T)&nbsp;&nbsp;🇺🇦 01:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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== Hello Hakuna Zar, are you an Indonesian citizen? You said in the revision that Prabowo is not president, but data from the General Election Commission shows that Prabowo's vote presentation is superior. And the votes are superior compared to other presidential candidates, so don't say that ==The Indonesian presidential election is over, you are too fussy about the presence of leaders from Indonesia

KTT G20 Brazil Ktt g20 brazil ↗ 36.73.34.220 ↗ (talk) 08:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

:Hey there,
:Although it is true that he is leading the ongoing election process, yet he is not officially announced as the winner and the next president of Indonesia. Therefore, is would be more suitable to put him as the representative of G20 from Indonesia once it is officially announced that he is the winner of the contestation Hakuna Zar (talk) 10:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
::Why don't you like it when I revise the G20 Summit in Brazil, the Indonesian leader who will attend the G20 Summit in Brazil in 2024.On October 20 2024, Mr Prabowo Subianto will be inaugurated, if necessary, monitor it on YouTube live from the People's Representative Council or People's Consultative Assembly building. Sonim667 (talk) 11:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Hey there,
:::I do aware with the ongoing process. However, in order for Prabowo to be on the list as the official representative, then it would be the best to have the official result announced in the very first place Hakuna Zar (talk) 11:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I will be back on March 20 2024 (because there the winner will be officially announced by the general election commission of the Republic of Indonesia). Greetings from Indonesia.Thanks You Sonim667 (talk) 11:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
::::That's the best, cheers! Hakuna Zar (talk) 12:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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November 2024



Hello mr. I have checked the source that you cited recently for Mongolia's resident ambassador to Indonesia. I've checked the other ambassadors and I think you need to change some of the ambassadors in List of diplomatic missions in Jakarta ↗ (e.g. Ulugbek Rozukulov to Oybek Eshonov for Uzbekistan). Thank you in advance. Underdwarf58 (talk) 13:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:Hey there, I would do it as soon as possible. Thanks! Hakuna Zar (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
::No problem Underdwarf58 (talk) 14:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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So the Syrian embassy in Jakarta ↗ raised the opposition's flag moments ago. Meanwhile, the same happened to the embassy in Athens and the dedicated page ↗ even changed the flag. Do you think that the Syrian flag in List of diplomatic missions in Indonesia ↗ and List of diplomatic missions in Jakarta ↗ needs to be changed or should we wait until the new government is announced? Underdwarf58 (talk) 08:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:To this very current time, no official new flag being announced. As it can be seen from the wikipedia page of Syria ↗, no official flag and coat of arms being used as the official identity of the country yet.
:The act of Syrian missions worldwide displaying the opposition's flag is an act of acknowledgement of the new regime that identifies themselves with such flag and not an official declaration of the country's new symbol. So I believe it is more appropriate to wait for the official announcement. Hakuna Zar (talk) 09:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Frans Kaisiepo Airport



Well, the article you edited yesterday and I know that the flights to Darwin is operated as a chartered flight and I saw on October 2025 flight schedules at Darwin International Airport. It says that the scheduled flights will begin on 8 October that year.<ref>{{Cite web|title=October 2025 Schedules|url=https://www.darwinairport.com.au/sites/default/files/2025-09/DIA%20Flight%20Schedule%2001-25%20Oct%2025.pdf|website=Darwin International Airport}}</ref>

You have to check the schedule, which means they operate scheduled flights to Biak in Wednesday next week. Davgrx7646 (talk) 06:09, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

:The 8 October schedule is not a regular flight but a chartered one, since no booking of Biak-Darwin flights vv can be made from any booking sites. In addition, the regent of Biak also stated that this still a charter flight and still in progress of making this flight a regular one (https://rri.co.id/daerah/1863611/airnorth-mendarat-kembalinya-penerbangan-internasional-di-bandara-frans-kaisiepo), which emphasized further that the status of this flight is not a regular one Hakuna Zar (talk) 09:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::And that means, they're still working for changing Darwin route from charter to a scheduled flights? Davgrx7646 (talk) 10:41, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, so at this very moment, the status of Biak-Darwin route by Air North is still a chartered flight. We need to wait for some moments until the flight is finally changed into regular scheduled one Hakuna Zar (talk) 10:49, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

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October 2025



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello, I'm Danners430. I noticed that you recently removed content ↗ from :Phuket International Airport ↗&nbsp;without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary ↗. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page ↗. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 15:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

:I've described it as "Thai AirAsia suspended its flight to Medan" on edit summary since the route is no longer available on any travel booking and scheduled systems. Based on this, I believe it would be giving wrong information to people if this to be let go since we have enough prove already that this route is ceased to exist Hakuna Zar (talk) 15:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
::Right, but you're removing sourced content. How do we verify that what you say is indeed correct? I'm not disputing the accuracy of your edit, but a source is needed to verify the route removal. Even if the source is simply linked in your edit summary, that's what would be needed. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 15:26, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
:::That's true in theory. However in practice, many airlines will definitely just removed their destinations with no further publications at all, and in many cases they'll just notify those who have purchased the ticket of the closed route through personal text and email as well. Considering this is a low cost airline with known practice, I believe this is the case. See it yourself on any online booking platforms, I guarantee you will no longer find Thai AirsAsia Phuket-Medan vv
:::I believe this kind of factor should be considered on Wikipedia as well if we wish to present the information as precise as possible Hakuna Zar (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
::::It currently is being considered at WP:VPP ↗. However, right now there’s a source which states one thing - we can’t just remove that source unless we can verify it is indeed no longer the case. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:57, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::Well, if you insist that we must have a very concrete publications firsthand (very little chance for a low cost airline to think about this, even a full service airline like Qatar Airways closed its Doha-Medan route, no concrete publications ever made) although the very obvious reality on the ground that the route is no longer available (which I believe could mislead many Wikipedia readers and leave the page not up to date), then be my guest
:::::I strongly believe Wikipedia must have a rule that take into consideration this kind of reality on the ground regarding airline's route Hakuna Zar (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is to an extent what the discussion at WP:VPP ↗ is about - I’d encourage you to weigh in <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 18:06, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Since I'm only a passive user of this website, I'll just leave it to you to bring it on the board as you're the one who is very actively and rigidly performing the duty. Just acknowledge the reality on the ground for the sake of this website's accuracy yet updated nature Hakuna Zar (talk) 17:52, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
:And again, you're removing routes from route tables without a source stating the route has ended. All it needs is for you to put a link to the source you're using, provided it's reliable, in your edit summary. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::No official news/articles/publications stating the closure of the route. Airline companies often just removed the route and what we can expect is seeing the route is no longer available on any booking systems Hakuna Zar (talk) 16:36, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::OK, but here's the problem... airlines regularly temporarily remove routes from their booking systems for a variety of reasons - temporary unavailability of aircraft, crewing etc. None of this is a permanent cancellation - at best, it's WP:SYNTH ↗. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:38, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::It is not temporary I believe, as you can search it up until one year ahead and the route still no longer available. Just like the case with Qatar Airways DOH-KNO route.
::::If it is like the case of DPS-KNO route by Super Air Jet, which will resume this upcoming December as can be seen from any travel booking sites, then it is safe to conclude that it is temporary closure Hakuna Zar (talk) 16:42, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::The instant you say words like "conclude", you're falling foul of WP:SYNTH ↗, which clearly states {{tq|Do not combine material from multiple sources to state or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to state or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source.}} There is a source which clearly states that a route has started - therefore we need a source which clearly states the route has been suspended or terminated. A route not being on sale can mean umpteen things.
:::::This might be worth discussing at WT:WikiProject Airports ↗ if you're concerned. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:45, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::'''Therefore we need a source which clearly states the route has been suspended or terminated'''
::::::But in many cases, airline does not publish the closure of route. The most recent one is AirAsia Medan-Phuket vv which they just simply closed the reservations and no publications of its closure ever made to this very date
::::::I believe if no upcoming date of the next flight is available on any booking systems, then it is best and just normal to see the route as permanently closed unless there is a statement/publication/news about the temporary closure or upcoming date of flight is available on any booking systems just like Super Air Jet DPS-KNO resuming this upcoming December Hakuna Zar (talk) 17:01, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Then we have a problem - and indeed a problem that’s actively being discussed at WP:VPP ↗. This is why I’m advocating for removing these destination lists, as we simply cannot satisfy proper verification. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 17:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, I understand that the current system is not perfect and we need to work on it. This is another real factor that I believe is important to be taken into account in establishing a guideline for managing airline's destinations in this platform
::::::::Otherwise ordinary people would definitely be confused in seeing a route is still there, yet in any booking platforms even until a year ahead none of such route is available Hakuna Zar (talk) 17:15, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::My best advice would be to join the discussion at WP:VPP ↗ - right now we're figuring out how best to phrase an RfC <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 17:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

AeroRoutes on WP:RSN ↗



I have started a new discussion on whether Aeroroutes is a reliable source, if you wanna join the discussion to mention on if its a reliable source feel free to do so, the discussion is at WP:RSN#WP:AEROROUTES ↗ Metrosfan (talk) 06:57, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Lion Air flight


Hello, Hakuna Zar ↗. I saw this on the departures schedule and it says that the flights from Jayapura to Manokwari (operated by Lion Air) are also listed, but I thought that the airline has resumed flights from Jayapura.

Maybe, you should take a look on Flightradar24 if the airline does operate flights from Jayapura to Manokwari.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/jt788

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Much as I disagree with the consensus at the above link, it is current community consensus to use only secondary sources for airport route tables. The airport website is most definitely not a secondary source, and it's rather more concerning that you replaced perfectly good secondary sources with the airport website.

As I've said may times in multiple places, if the RfC at WP:VPP ↗ decides to keep these tables, it is my intention to hold an RfC about the sourcing of these tables, with my hope being that the consensus at WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT ↗ can be overturned, and we can start using airport or airline sources for these tables. It would be so much tidier and easier, as you obviously agree.

However, at the moment unfortunately the community consensus is what it is, and we can't use these sources here. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 14:44, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

:Actually my apologies - I got that wrong. For some reason I thought Airpaz was the airline website, not an independent booking website. Apologies for the confusion and the revert! <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:03, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
::@Hakuna Zar I've removed the dodgy sources from the article since you added the Airpaz sources, including Aeroroutes and Instagram. There's one more that needs a source - I haven't removed it since you're actively working on the article, only tagged it with a CN tag. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 16:09, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Unreliable sources



@Hakuna Zar I appreciate you adding an alternative reference - but why have you also restored the unreliable sources? They shouldn't be there at all. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 14:11, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

:I'll remove them ASAP Hakuna Zar (talk) 14:11, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
::No worries - cheers :) <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 14:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

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:The Bali flight is no longer available on any booking systems, therefore it is legit to be removed from the table. The flight to SIN has began, and it is also legit to remove the given upcoming date
:It is irrelevant since the ref does not mention the exact flight frequency, as it is added only to support the upcoming frequency. If it is intended to be that way, I guess every single frequencies of every single flights must also be given reference? Although it does not mention the very same number thus irrelevant Hakuna Zar (talk) 19:38, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
::That’s all fine - I agree with removing the start date and the Bali flight. However - look at the diff ↗ - specifically at the bottom of the diff, where you’re removing two sources from the statistics table. That is the problem - I can see no reason, and you haven’t given a reason, why those sources are being removed - you’re not changing the content in any way, so one assumes that the content that’s there was referenced to those sources - so why remove them and leave that content unsourced? <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 19:43, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
:::Those refs are removed since the very same refs have already been inserted on the airlines list (take Scoot to SIN for example) and the added refs does not mention the flight frequencies, which are expected to show what it represents for. The refs are intended only to show the change of frequency since a new airline is coming Hakuna Zar (talk) 19:50, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
::::I'm still not entirely sure I follow you. If you're removing the sources because they're duplicated, then don't just remove them - combine them using named references. If you're saying that the ref doesn't verify the content they're attached to, then why aren't you leaving behind a citation needed tag or removing the content altogether? <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 19:57, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
:::::So does this imply that every number of frequencies stated on that statistic table must also be given a reference? As frequencies often change rapidly without any references published Hakuna Zar (talk) 20:09, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
::::::'''Everything''' needs to be verified somehow. If there isn't a source verifying the entire table, which I can't necessarily see, then the content should only be there if it's sourced. That's just basic Verifiability. If it changes frequently and can't be easily sourced, then perhaps it shouldn't be there. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 21:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
:::::::I guess it's better to remove the entire tables then? Since it'ss going to be impossible to catch up with flight frequency which will definitely changed very often without prior publications/references. After all, we don't wanna give people non-updated a.k.a wrong information Hakuna Zar (talk) 10:27, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Yes - if they are indeed unreferenced, then yes it would make sense to remove them. I never noticed that they were unreferenced. Another course of action could be to put a citation needed and "needs update" banner for a while to see if someone else can find sources for the tables - I do know that some airports to publish this information. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 10:38, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Sydney Airports


Hello Hakuna Zar. I notice you recently changed Sydney to Sydney-Kingsford Smith in destination lists such as at Canberra Airport ↗ and Adelaide Airport ↗, citing Singapore Airlines' announcement of service to the new Western Sydney airport. While I understand your argument for disambiguation, I think this is something you should take to the Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board ↗ to seek consensus on before making any more changes. My reason for this is that there are mulitple airports serving Melbourne that have passenger service including Avalon Airport ↗ )which has served international flights from time to time). However, we don't list Melbourne Airport ↗ as "Melbourne - Tullamarine" in destination lists because of that. I think we need to ensure we are doing things consistently. I am happy to open the discussion if you dont want to. Thanks. Dfadden (talk) 03:53, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

:Hey there, thank you for the attention. I agree regarding the case of Avalon although the airport also serves Melbourne, it is very clear that since the international route was commenced, Avalon airport never stated itself as "Melbourne" in this forum and rather goes as independent entity. In other hand, the route to WSI airport is stated as "Sydney" both in this forum and outside
:WSI also actively promoting itself as Sydney's second airport unlike the case of Avalon and recently I found that Avalon is trying to distinct itself from such portrayal. Based on these considerations, I believe there should be a separation between 2 Sydney's airports. But of course, this is open to discussion and great to know that Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board ↗ would bring this to their concerns Hakuna Zar (talk) 08:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks for that. I certainly agree that the two airports need to be separate or it will become very confusing! I will try to summarise the issue and open a discussion when I have some spare time over the next few days and tag yourself so you can participate. Hopefully a clear consensus will emerge on the best way to deal with this! Dfadden (talk) 12:18, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Just following up to let you know I have opened discussions on this at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#Distinguishing between Sydney airports ↗ and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Distinguishing between Sydney airports ↗ if you would like to participate. Thanks! Dfadden (talk) 06:11, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

WP:SYNTH ↗



Something not appearing in a list isn't sufficient to be able to categorically say a route has been cancelled - that's the definition of WP:SYNTH ↗, ie coming to a conclusion which is not explicitly stated in a source. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 08:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

NOPIPE



Please take note of WP:NOPIPE ↗ - piped links are fine, but when the text inside the link redirects to the correct page then piped links are actively discouraged. <span class="nowrap"><span style="color: RebeccaPurple">Danners430</span> <sub>tweaks made ↗</sub></span> 13:32, 6 July 2026 (UTC)