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Hello
Hello, shall we please speak on pm here? I working on a paper on anomalocaridid's feeding and I would appreciate if you let me use your fantastic drawings to illustrate a food chain.
Your,
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:Hi, you can feel free to use my illustrations posted on Wikipedia. You can also use only the organism part and ommit the white background and ID of the illustration, as long as my name (Jun) and twitter ID (@ni075) are noted somewhere.--Junnn11 (talk) 08:37, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
thanks, your full name would bee better if you can pm it to me, now I have just added Jun on the paper
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Opinion on "Fossils from South China redefine the ancestral euarthropod body plan"
Hi Junnn, I am a big fan of the images you draw of stem-arthropods, and thank you for your substantial editing on the topic. I know that you have a specific interest in the Arthropod head problem and the homology of arthropod appendages. I am puzzled why you would dismiss the latest research paper on Megacheirans ↗ (published 3 months ago) as if this was some minority view, when the study seems to be a significant re-examination of several important specimens. Do you have any specific objections to the conclusions of the researchers? Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:Hi Hemiauchenia, thanks for your support and editing on the topic. About the latest study, I personally treat it with caution, specifically the homology of head appendages.
:For one thing, the study only point out the uncertainties of the previous neural evidences, but did not actually re-examinate nor provide a new neural evidence that could directly support their hypothesis. That's why I rather described it as "suggested" instead of "found". Additionally, a paper agreed on the validity of previous neural evidences with new specimen provided ↗ just published immediately before it. I also curious about why the appendage-like developmental pattern of arthropod labrum (which homologized to non-appendicular anterior sclerite by them) wasn't mentioned in that research.
:I agreed that the non-homology between frontal appendage and great appendage isn't a hypothesis that is unambiguously supported, the uncertainties of available materials is true, but the latest study isn't something that could fully redefine it. But anyway, I think your edition on those of mine is better, my english isn't good enough to make it sounds neutral. Thank you.--Junnn11 (talk) 02:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the gracious reply Junnn, I think it's really difficult to get the balance right in academic disputes like this, as suggesting that one answer is right than the other when the answer is not clear would violate Wikipedia:No original research ↗, however, giving false balance to a minority academic view would consitute undue weight ↗. However I think my inital edit was too unbalanced in favor of the 2020 paper out of ignorance, and I think your edits were a helpful correction. The arthropod head problem is really complex and I need to understand it properly before making edits on it in the future. Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the thank
Hi Junnn11! Thanks for the friendly thank notification. I plan to edit a few more minor typos I noticed. I hope this is helpful and not intrusive, but if there is any issue, please let me know. Your contributions on arthropods are incredible. Enby (talk) 18:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
: Hi Enby, thanks for your edit. Since I'm not very good at English and some of the articles are too massive to have an easy check on typos, it helps a lot. I'll try to do my best.--Junnn11 (talk) 14:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Synziphosurina
Hello, Junnn11. I appreciate the work you've been doing on stem-euarthropods and other enigmatic taxa and I don't mean to offend your edits. However, I see that you use the clade Synziphosurina a lot. This clade has been shown to be paraphyletic and invalid. The only reason it hasn't been formally synonymised or invalidated is because some of its "members" and their relationships with other genera are poorly known. In addition, literally all its members are already assigned to a different clade, usually Planaterga and Prosomapoda. I think we should remove the clade from Wikipedia and stick to the newest studies, especially Lamsdell's of 2013 ↗. <span style="color:#0099FF;">Super</span> <span style="color:#800080;">Ψ</span> ↗ <span style="color:#E60026;">Dro</span> 10:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you for your reply. For clarity, I treat "Synziphosurina/synziphosurine" only as a category instead of a clade (which should be monophyletic) nor a valid taxon. Although it is not a valid taxon, "synziphosurine" are at least their unambigious affiniy, and still had been used by numerous literatures as a loose category after Lamsdell 2013 (e.g. 1 ↗, 2 ↗, 3 ↗). In the other word, the unacceptance of "synziphosurines" as a taxon does not mean the "synziphosurine" taxa stopped being "synziphosurines". At least for now, I think It is still helpful to use the term in order to understand the history of their still-ongoing research. Until the term has become barely-used in scientific literature for years (like the "Merostomata"), I think it is still too early to completely remove the term from any description of the "synziphosurine" taxa. As you noticed, some of them are yet to be reviewed and their phylogenetic position may drastically changed (e.g. ''Willwerathia ↗'' had been placed within Xiphosura in Lamsdell 2013, but outside of it in all later analysis 1 ↗, 2 ↗, 3 ↗, 4 ↗ so far).
:P.S. Sorry if I make any typo, I'm not very well in english communications.--Junnn11 (talk) 11:49, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
::That's fair enough. Lamsdell is preparing another paper on the phylogenetics of Xiphosura, perhaps he will clarify the situation of the synziphosurines... <span style="color:#0099FF;">Super</span> <span style="color:#800080;">Ψ</span> ↗ <span style="color:#E60026;">Dro</span> 12:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Missing Image in the Wikipedia English article about Haikoucaris
Hey Junnn11, can you add your restoration of Haikoucaris in the Wikipedia English article about it? If yes, i will send you a thank you notification for you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by TheRealLTG (talk • contribs ↗) 12:26, 13 November 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Sure. Also thanks for creating the article.--Junnn11 (talk) 12:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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:And https://boingboing.net/2023/04/20/behold-the-wikipedia-arthropod-illustrations-of-junnn11.html ↗ Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Junnn, I know in the past you created a diagram for ''Odaraia ↗''. A new study has recently come out which has clarified its head anatomy https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2024.0622 ↗. It's closed access but I have a copy. Would you like me to email to you a copy of the paper using the Wikipedia email system? Hemiauchenia (talk) 02:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
:Yes! Thanks for your help! After reading I'll update the diagram ASAP, possibly this weekend. Junnn11 (talk) 02:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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Question about animation software
Hi Junnn, first want to say that your arthropod restorations and animations are phenomenal! I've been long curious, though, what software do you use for animating the .gifs for your biomechanical diagrams like the ones below? I've been interested in trying out animated .gifs of my own.
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Again, awesome works! <b><i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i></b> | <span style="font-family: Consolas; color:#000">talk</span> 21:51, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks! I use SAI or Adobe illustrator to make the individual parts, and use After Effect to assemble and animate them. Junnn11 (talk) 03:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
Helmetia redescription
Sorry if you're already aware, but a new open access redescription of Helmetia was published today. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14772019.2025.2468195#d1e216 ↗. You might need to update your diagram, though the paper doesn't provide an equivalent diagram so hard to be sure. Thanks for all your hard work as always. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:05, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
:What a timely publication! Thanks for telling me! Junnn11 (talk) 09:39, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Typo in two images.
Hi Junnn, as I was looking at your diagrams 20211113 Fuxianhuiid anatomy.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20211113_Fuxianhuiid_anatomy.png ↗ and 20211113 Fuxianhuiid morphology.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20211113_Fuxianhuiid_morphology.png ↗ on Commons, I noticed that in both images the label "compou'''n'''d eye ↗" is mispelled "compoud eye". Would you be able to fix this? Many thanks for all your fantastic illustrations and diagrams over the years. Kind regards. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:03, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
:My bad, thanks for the notes! I'll fix it later. Junnn11 (talk) 00:37, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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Love your artwork!
Hello! I just wanted to let you know that I love your artwork. Your image showing examples of radiodonts on the radiodonta page brought a smile to my face :) Thanks for all your hard work! Ggoatcheese (talk) 13:19, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
:Glad to hear that! Thank you! Jun (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
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Oreinorema
Hi Junnn. Do you plan to make a life restoration of ''Oreinorema ↗''? I have access to the paper and am happy to email you a copy if you want/are in need of one. Kind regards. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:40, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
:Hi Hemiauchenia, thanks for reaching out!
:I've got the paper and throughout some discussion with other radiodont enthusiasts, I doubt if I should make a restoration, personally a big concern on the structure of its flaps and setal blades. Prehistorica doubt the "setal blades" are just part of the flaps, and some other morphological and phylogenic interpretations are questionable as well https://x.com/Prehistorica_CM/status/2060171909287809296 ↗. On the other side, even the interpretation is legit (i.e. the setal blade is a separate exopod-like unit dorsal to the flaps), the life restoration in the same paper didn't representing it at all, as the setal blades are completely omitted without reason. Jun (talk) 03:55, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
Praearcturus and Brontoscorpio
Hello! Thank you for your work on the ''Praearcturus ↗'' page and many prehistoric arthropod illustrations you've made over the past few years. I'm just here to ask if you're going to make a formal merge proposal for the ''Brontoscorpio'' page with the ''Praearcturus'' page (or use WP:BOLD for the merge), now that the former has been suggested as a junior synonym of the latter. I'm obviously no expert on arthropods (I can merely state what I definitely see in the papers but cannot interpret beyond that), so I thought you and @Ta-tea-two-te-to might be more suitable to start this (if you're planning to do so).
The only reason I put the question mark on ''Brontoscorpio'' initially for the synonymy section of the taxobox was because normally when one taxon is suggested to be a synonym of another, or when a previously suggested synonym turns out to be not the same, I believed that at least one more study regarding the matter is required or at least most recommended to merge/unmerge and state it as a fact in the page (unless it is definitely certain like the case with ''Nanotyrannus ↗'' after Zanno and Napoli thoroughly redescribed the taxon). I'm not entirely sure if the ''Praearcturus/Brontoscorpio'' synonymy can be viewed as a similar, case closed situation, but I believe you're more capable of explaining this than myself. Once again thank you for your work and if it's alright with you, please let me know if you're planning a formal merge proposal as well. Junsik1223 (talk) 04:39, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:Thanks for the information. The case of ''Praearcturus'' and ''Brontoscorpio'' seems quite certain in my opinion, but I'll obey it if there's such a rule for synonymy merge in en wikipedia. Not sure if this counted, but there's a comment from Dr. James Lamsdell ↗ (which is not a co-author of the study) from years ago suggested the same idea. Jun (talk) 05:54, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
::This isn't really a rule but more so to do with possible objections that might arise when a merge is proposed. From what I understand, you can merge it per WP:BOLD ↗; this would mean merging pages without talk page discussion, which is absolutely possible and most recommended in definitively certain cases, but someone might suggest to open a discussion for a proper merge proposal if the reason for merge is not addressed properly (in that case, a good reasoning has to be written in the talk page so that there could be a consensus). As I said, I'm no expert/enthusiast on prehistoric arthropods, so I cannot say if the case is certain, but I'll definitely support if you propose a merge (or merge per WP:BOLD). Junsik1223 (talk) 10:21, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Thanks again. I've putted a merge template on ''Brontoscorpio'' article and started a topic on ''Praearcturus'' talk page just now. Jun (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2026 (UTC)