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Happy editing! Cheers, Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) <span style="color: #666; ">08:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)</span>
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Hi, I asked you something over at AE, but Guerillero decided it was the wrong venue, which is fair enough.
:{{tq|Hi, you made 221 revisions using the IABot over a period of about a week just prior to acquiring the extendedconfirmed grant. You then became active in the Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Iranian politics ↗ topic area (which is not under extendedconfirmed restrictions). Did you employ the IABot to speed up your acquisition of the extendedconfirmed grant? If so, are you planning to edit in a topic area that requires the grant, such as the Israel-Palestine conflict topic area? Sean.hoyland (talk) 16:11, 8 December 2025 (UTC)}}
I would still be interested in the answer to this question if you are willing to answer it. For context, my recent focus has been on trying to make it easier to identify potential so-called gaming ↗ cases (a somewhat fuzzy term), and I'm building a Wikimedia Toolforge tool intended to help with that (see Gaming Check ↗, you can just paste your username into the form to have a look at your account). Your pre-extendedconfirmed revision pattern is something that I would probably label as an example of potential gaming (it's debatable), but I'm interested in what you think, whether you would consider it 'gaming' (if you saw, let's say, an account that went on to advocate on behalf of Iran do the same thing), whether that was your intent, to accelerate your EC grant acquisition using IABot, and if so, why? What I will say is that if you are planning to edit in the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area (PIA), a topic area covered by extendedconfirmed restrictions, it might be better to wait until you have a couple of hundred more edits, to minimize the chance that someone active in the topic area sees it as gaming and reports it. It wouldn't be me, because my interest is largely technical and frankly, I rank having editors around willing to spend their time doing things helpful like this ↗ as more important than gaming related issues.

Anyway, feel free to ignore all this if you would prefer. Sean.hoyland (talk) 02:55, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

:Hi, I used the bot to make archives of sources for pages I was interested in reviewing because that helps get around paywalls. I wasn't aware aware of the permission or restrictions when I made those edits over a year ago, so I wasn't gaming a rule I wasn't aware of.
:I've had the permission for over a year and haven't gotten into Israel or Palestine directly, although I may have unknowingly violated that rule at Emily Schrader ↗. I'm not sure how broadly this is interpreted but based on NIAC not being included it seems to be fairly narrow? In any case, I have no intention of editing that topic going forward and hopefully the fact that it's been over a year shows gaming wasn't my intent. jwtmsqeh (talk) 12:31, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks very much for the reply. Yes, how can someone game a rule when they are unaware of the rule. Another counterargument is that WP:PGAME ↗ speaks of 'unconstructive or trivial edits' which is not a description that fits well with adding web.archive.org URLs for many references. As for, 'unknowingly violated that rule', it's not unusual to see a few edits to pages covered by the restrictions before editors become aware of them. Yes, the restrictions are quite narrow, despite often being referred to as 'broadly construed'. The relevant pages have a talk page section 'Warning: active arbitration remedies. The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article relates to the Arab–Israeli conflict, a contentious topic.' Or if only parts of the article are covered it will say 'Parts of this article relate to the Arab–Israeli conflict, a contentious topic.' You can see all the pages here. For Iran related topics, the boundary between the extendedconfirmed restricted and not extendedconfirmed restricted sets can get a bit fuzzy. Sean.hoyland (talk) 03:46, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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Please explain the tag you placed on the user page {{u|STOPNIAC}}. You have no access to CheckUser information. The tag is not justified by the SPI you pointed to, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/James Bertrand 8/Archive ↗. Why did you tag the user? Cabayi (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

:It was over two years ago but James Bertrand 8 was banned by @Girth Summit after they confirmed STOPNIAC was the same person ↗. After more accounts were found I thought it would be helpful to also categorize this one. If I shouldn't have done this, I apologize for overstepping. jwtmsqeh (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
jwtmsqeh (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

::OK, I think I can see where you're coming from.
::CheckUser blocks are made by Admins with CheckUser rights who have used the CheckUser tools to determine that someone is using multiple accounts. Occasionally, very occasionally, they may leave the results of a CheckUser investigation on an SPI ↗ page for an admin-clerk to CU block the subject on their behalf.
::CheckUsers are admins too, so you can't assume that everything they do is in their capacity as a CheckUser. {{u|Girth Summit}} blocked one user, not both, and did not mention any use of the CU toolset. There is no safe path to assuming it was a checkuser block. Unless a CheckUser tags the block as a CU block in the block log, or on the user's talk page, or unless an SPI Clerk ↗ has done so on their behalf, it's not a CheckUser block.
::Also, blocks and bans are two different things ↗.
::If you have any questions, feel free to get in touch. Thank you for your work. Cabayi (talk) 12:13, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
:::I have some dim recollection of this, but its pretty murky. FWIW, STOPNIAC was already blocked as NOTHERE; I did run a check on them, and blocked James Bertrand 8 as a CU block, so the tag probably isn't erroneous. I cannot recall why I didn't tag at the time, it's possible I was just being lazy. However jwtmsqeh, I agree with Cabayi that it is generally not useful for non CUs/SPI clerks to add tags to blocked accounts' userpages, and certainly not a 'CU confirmed' tags - there are circumstances in which we intentionally do not tag, or where a different tag might have been more appropriate. <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span><sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub> 12:39, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Sock Puppet



Hi, I am not a sock puppet. I am a PhD student in International History at the London School of Economics, editing in my own name. I also am active on twitter. https://x.com/History__Speaks

I have edited Wikipedia before a number of times, using an IP rather than an account. I am not connected to NIAC though I am supportive of them. M.Ghobrial.Cockerill (talk) 00:25, 24 March 2026 (UTC)