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St. James Football Club ↗ moved to draftspace
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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: St. James Football Club ↗ (November 7)
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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: St. James Football Club ↗ (November 9)
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Coreen history
I know you meant well, but I can assure you that the Coreen competition that folded in 2007 formed in 1930. The competition that formed in 1909 folded after the 1930 season. The two competitions are totally separate. The sources I gave show clearly that the two competitions played and then in 1931 the clubs from the original Coreen competition had to apply to join the Corowa competition. This would not have happened if it was the same competition. Please do not revert this as it is sourced and correct. The league history as noted elsewhere is clearly wrong. Footy Freak7 (talk) 09:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I have now included additional sources. Footy Freak7 (talk) 10:16, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Dear Footy Freak,
In my opinion the Coreen SFA commenced in 1909 and folded after the 1930 season.
The Corowa DFA commenced in 1930 and was called the Corowa DFA.
So how can you claim that the that the Coreen FL that folded in 2007 commenced in 1930 when it was actually called the Corowa DFA?
There were two completely separate football competitions in 1930 and the Corowa DFA was a completely separate competition!
It's really disappointing that you think you can remove actual relevant premiership history that was sourced for every year of competition because she have a different opinion, I look forward to your reply! Thanks, Justin Kelly.
: The Corowa DFA changed it's name in 1936 to the Coreen FA. It is the same competition as the one that folded in 2007. The totally separate competition is the one that existed from 1909 to 1930. The "history" I removed is wrong - as shown in the links to the Corowa Free Press on Trove. Footy Freak7 (talk) 01:49, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:: And I have found a source to prove it and it will be added. Footy Freak7 (talk) 02:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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Goulburn Valley Second Eighteens Football Association
Thank you for your rude message on my talk page. It is rude because it is entirely unjustified.
As the other editor has noted, the page has not been deleted, it has been merged into another page. As you should be aware, Wikipedia has notability standards ↗ for articles, and editors are able to nominate pages for deletion if they think they don't. You were welcome to participate in the debate (which is linked at the top of each page while the discussion is ongoing), but you didn't.
For the record, I didn't nominate the page, I commented on the deletion discussion and proposed an alternative, which was merging into the competition that succeeded it. In fact, were it not for my participation the page would have been deleted entirely, because that is the default if no one participates (and no one had until I did). At present there's not enough content to justify having a separate page on a regional football competition that only ran for 11 seasons. I'd suggest sticking to the history of the competition and expanding the article (rather than filling it with tables discussing who the president of a football club was in 1946). Deus et lex (talk) 00:22, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
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It doesn't matter how many sources you put on an article - especially when it's all derived from one source (Trove). All you have done is proven the award exists. You have NOT proven that the award is notable. You have to find a source - more than one that is - that is NOT found on Trove that states independently and reliably that the award is "prestigious". If you don't - it's not notable. 2001:8003:5022:5E01:B9E6:FD67:C73B:D128 ↗ (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
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