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A sidenote

Hi LouisAragon, I was initially actually rather glad to have received the DS alert by you, as I associate your name with Louis Aragons foreword to Djamilia ↗ by Chinghiz Aitmatov in which he elevates Djamilia to the most beautiful love story. I always also think of this, when I see your edits on my watchlist. Since years. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
:Appreciate the kind words, {{u|Paradise Chronicle}}! (excuse me for the belated reply) - LouisAragon (talk) 19:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Nastaliq

Hi Louis, in regards to the Nastaliq script. Can I add Nastaliq for works created before the 20th century or should I go with the ones that most Iranians write today? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 20:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|SpinnerLaserzthe2nd}} Hey. Honestly, "lang-fa" suffices in every circumstance. Nastaliq, to my knowledge, has always been limited to writing Persian poetry. It is one of such calligraphic scripts for Persian; there are others too (such as ''Shekasteh ↗'', ''Thuluth ↗'', and ''Naskh ↗''). Pinging two users ({{ping|HistoryofIran}} {{ping|Rye-96}}) who, to my knowledge, are versed on this subject. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:09, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

::Okay, I just left a comment on your own talk page. There is no point in using Nastaliq on any occasion on Wikipedia, really. Except if Nastaliq itself is being talked about (or maybe, if we are to force it somewhere, when a piece of poem is getting quoted…?). Assuming you need to use Nastaliq for pre-20th century topics would probably give the impression that we are using a different writing system now for Persian, which is of course false.<br>—Rye-96 (talk) 23:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

IP sock?

Hi LouisAragon, hope you're doing well. You placed a notice ↗ on an IP talk page, indicating a possibility of Aydın memmedov2000 ↗ sock. I feel like your hunch was correct, see latest diff ↗. Thoughts? ZaniGiovanni (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|ZaniGiovanni}} Yup its his IP sock. Its blocked now. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:09, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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You gave this editor a Ds notice

And I've reverted them here ↗ as well as the IP they're using. Thought you might be interested, especially if they revert me again. Hope you're well. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 16:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

New spin-off article

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You've been hoodwinked

See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=876064904 ↗ where innocently you used a self-published source. https://henrycolburn.hcommons.org/2022/04/20/a-new-old-persian-forgery/ ↗ explains it and I checked. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 11:27, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|Doug Weller}} My oh my. Thanks for the heads up, Doug. Should be fixed now?https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xerxes_I_inscription_at_Van&diff=1110085109&oldid=999212992 ↗ PS: How is the cancer treatment going? Wishing you and yours all the best, - LouisAragon (talk) 13:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
::Finished with chemo, at least for a while. Doing NHS prehabilitation for liver surgery, probably that will take place in a couple of weeks. Prehab is done in a small gym with only about 2 people taking part. 45 minutes of really hard work! It's building up my strength. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 14:22, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Doug Weller}} Im into medicine, albeit not in North America. Over here, if you're eligible for surgery, it means the prognosis is generally good. Means the tumor is resectable. Get well soon, Doug. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Going into hospital Wednesday at 7 am. The only other problem is that there was a spot on my lung, I don't know if the chemo fixed that but I was told I might need more chemo after the op. My physical assessment yesterday showed I've made significant improvement in my strength and am in fine cardiovascular shape. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 08:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Doug Weller}} Great to hear Doug, including the fitness part. Chemo and cancer treatment in general usually severely weakens the body, and with lower energy levels its usually super hard to work out. I can imagine you come a long way already. Hope all cancer cells get removed as soon as possible. If you have any medicine-related question, feel free to hit me up at any point. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:05, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
::::::People turning off my iPad, wife’s phone, and I think trying to kill ,e but I can’t prove that just hope that was wrong. 62.254.7.166 ↗ (talk) 08:24, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Bookish Sources

Thanks For Correction but What If I Have Bookish sources about some topics rather Than of Cites.
In that case what should I Do. Cyrus Kurush (talk) 07:29, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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Azeri language

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Cilicia Campaign of Kayqubad the Great (1225) ↗

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Polo: Pakistan sub-section

Hi {{ping|LouisAragon}} Thanks for the change you made ↗ to ''my'' change on Polo ↗. I did not originate that material. I toned it downhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polo&diff=prev&oldid=1124132236 ↗ from the inserting editor's promotional style:
{{bq|{{tq|Polo was invented in ancient Iran ↗, which spanned the modern day regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Northern Pakistan. The word 'Polo' is derived from the Balti ↗ language's word for a 'ball', ''polo''.}}}} (already present when you were editing the article on 15 Nov ↗}, to the slightly more justifiable: "{{tq|Polo was extensively developed in Ancient Iran ↗, a region which encompasses current Northern Pakistan, as well as modern-day Iran and Afghanistan.}}".

Like you, I think this material is better out than in. It's basically a recap of the main points in the "History" and "Origin" sections.
Problem is though, there's now a non sequitur left stranded, that seems even more like unsourced semi-boasting: "{{tq|The traditional or 'free style' ''Polo'' or ''Pulu'' of Northern Pakistan is '''still played avidly in its native region'''.}}" [my emphasis] This makes no sense without context, as well looking even ''more'' like a sort of "boosterism" on its own.

Excuse me posting here; I don't want to venture into the talk page where there's a massive argument going on: been there, done that; learned my lesson! I'll leave it in your hands for now. Thanks, 175.39.67.82 ↗ (talk) 14:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{ip|175.39.67.82}} Thank you for your comment. No worries. You made some good edits to the article I think. The "which spanned the modern day regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Northern Pakistan" sounded ludicrous to me; not only was it unsourced (amongst others), but ancient Iran, as we know spanned a far wider area than that. Whoever chose to add that stuff clearly did some cherry-picking. As for the "The traditional or 'free style' ''Polo'' or ''Pulu'' of Northern Pakistan is still played avidly in its native region, I will remove that per failed WP:VER ↗ and WP:NPOV ↗. Best, - LouisAragon (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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:Hi {{u|Salazar}}, excuse me for my belated response. No, that would count as off-wiki coordination/meatpuppetry, which is not only wrong but highly against the rules. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:22, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry I didn't know that. I am aware of the exitance of a discord server that is linked in Wikipedia:Discord ↗. A server also exists for Persian Wikipedia but it is dead and inactive. That is why I asked you that. Salazar the terrible (talk) 11:09, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Moops}} Thank you, and likewise! Wishing you and yours a healthy and prosperous 2023! - LouisAragon (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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Ishaq al Mawsili

It seems like I made a mistake while reading the article and thought it said "Arab of Persian origin" in the leading paragraph but as I was scrolling through the edit history I realized that it never said that, it said "Arab musician of Persian origin." so no edit in the lead is necessary. However, in the early life section when speaking about Ishaqs father (Ibrahim), he is called an "Arab of Persian origin." I am going to change that to "also a musician of Persian origin." or maybe not include the Persian part since that would be obvious, and it's included in his page. What do you think? If you'd like to see sources regarding their ethnicity refer to the talk page in the article (I also left a message there).MarkParker1221 (talk) 16:44, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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Another Cyber.Eyes.2005 sock detected

I've noticed that you have helped point out and investigate sock alts of blocked user, Cyber.Eyes.2005. I personally have found another user which I tried to add to the investigations page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Cyber.Eyes.2005 ↗ but couldn't and would like for you to do it.

User Uzek removed the mention of Hinduism from the lead of the Kalash people ↗ page here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalash_people&diff=prev&oldid=1144821588 ↗ and here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalash_people&diff=prev&oldid=1144810119 ↗, something another blocked sock, i.e., User Hassan Janhal had removed here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalash_people&diff=prev&oldid=1130633790 ↗, giving very similar reasons in edit-descriptions, of "per source" and "misinfo".

Also, edit-warring the same thing via IP edits here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalash_people&diff=prev&oldid=1138789428 ↗ and here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalash_people&diff=prev&oldid=1138178263 ↗, a classic of this user, which has been done multiple times in the past.

One more case I'd like to point out is that another previously block sock Indo Heritage made an edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kauravi_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1145419826 ↗ here in which he removed Delhi ↗ and added Western Uttar Pradesh ↗ in the lead of the Kauravi dialect ↗ page, which the user Uzek reinstated here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kauravi_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1145471226 ↗ and here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kauravi_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1145498043 ↗.

There also seems to be a third sock here, user Sensai7 who also reinstated the above sock edit on the Kauravi dialect ↗ page here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kauravi_dialect&diff=prev&oldid=1145498043 ↗.

I'd like to point out two more cases of user Uzek reinstating content that they previously added by another Cyber.Eyes.2005 sock.

User Insha22, another sock of this account who was discussed in June of 2022 on the investigations page here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Cyber.Eyes.2005&diff=prev&oldid=1093832423 ↗ and was decided as a sock but not indeffed by the admins because they haven't been active since 2021 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Cyber.Eyes.2005&diff=prev&oldid=1093910906 ↗.

One of the first 10 edits of Insha22 was to remove Pakistan and add Afghanistan in the lead of the Bacha Bazi ↗ article: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacha_bazi&diff=prev&oldid=1117358145 ↗ and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacha_bazi&diff=prev&oldid=1035866756 ↗. Without a coincidence, the oldest edits of Uzek also reinstates the same https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacha_bazi&diff=prev&oldid=1117358278 ↗ and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bacha_bazi&diff=prev&oldid=1035865956 ↗. Similarly, one other vandalism of Insha22 was to remove Ancient India ↗ from the lead of the Gandhara ↗ article and add Pakistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gandhara&diff=prev&oldid=1037291913 ↗, without a doubt Uzek reinstates the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gandhara&diff=prev&oldid=1144048773 ↗. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by RemovePork (talk • contribs ↗) 18:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</small> 

Also the anti-India and pro-Pak nationalistic pov edit warring, removing India from articles unnecessarily and adding Pakistan in all the accounts is dubious in all previous blocked socks.

I'd like for you to please bring these accounts and their selective, same removed content, along with the similar edit-description on the discussion page. Request a check-user if possible.

Sincerely,

RemovePork (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

:Dear sock of Prince of Roblox,
:All of my edits you've listed here are just reverting your edits lol.
:Thanks for the reminder though, I'll now link to your investigation page every time I clean up after the mess you leave on these pages with your obsessive pov editing
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Prince_Of_Roblox Uzek (talk) 16:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
::Dear Cyber eyes 2005 sock,
::Your edits are a clear reinstatement of your older edits from your previous sock. I absolutely do not care about your inferiority complex due to a lack of an identity. I absolutely do not care what you accuse me of or what you do. I am going to keep reverting your disruptive nationalistic pov edit warring. I have provided evidence here and will keep doing so and let the admins decide.
::RemovePork (talk) 17:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Lol, okay Uzek (talk) 17:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Copy Editing Abdallah Khan Confusion

Hiya,

I have been working on some minor copy editing in Abdallah Khan ↗, as you requested, and the Negarestan Palace mural section refers to subjects attending the Shah and then states that some subject is wielding the royal shield, it is unclear to me which subject is holding the royal shield, and I was hoping you may be able to clarify that for me. The same sentence also ends in "amongst others," and I have no a clue to what that is referring to, and if you could also possibly clarify that for me too it would be ever so helpful. I will probably poke you about other things in the article later that prove confusing for me, and I hope that I prove to be more of a help than a hindrance.

Cheers,

MagentaCat1 (talk) 05:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|MagentaCat1}} Hey, first of all, thank you very much for taking the time to copy-edit the article! As for the Negarestan Palace Mural, this is what the cited source states: "''The painting comprises a total of 118 life-size figures; on the end wall was Fatḥ-ʿAlī Shah enthroned and attended by twelve of his sons and six ḡolāms carrying the royal shield, etc., and on the side walls a double row of courtiers above and foreign envoys and guards below.''""
:I believe they mean that those six ''gholams'' carried the royal shield, "amongst other items". Unfortunately, the source does not tell what the names of the individual ''gholams'' were, nor which one of them was carrying what item. Hope this helps. Of course, please don't hesitate to let me know about any further inquiries. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:34, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
::@LouisAragon: Thank you for the very clear and prompt response, I shall proceed to do my best to incorporate this information to my reworking of that sentence.
::Cheers,
::MagentaCat1 (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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Abdallah Khan

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Removal of GAMAAN claims.

Hello sir, I did not intended my editing to be disruptive. In the case of vague GAMAAN, its claims is contradicted by multiple other reliable and verified sources International Crisis Group ↗, Pew Research Center ↗, CIA World Factbook ↗, Gallup Poll ↗, World Value Survey ↗, which report that the majority of Iran's population is Muslim, with Shia Muslims being the dominant group and Sunni Muslims making up a smaller minority.

There are several reasons why GAMAAN's claim should be disregarded. First, GAMAAN is not a well-known or established source of information, particularly when it comes to issues related to demographics or religion. In contrast, the CIA World Factbook and Pew Research Center are respected and widely cited sources of information on these topics. Second, GAMAAN's claim is not supported by any clear evidence or methodology.

Finally, GAMAAN's claim is not consistent with what we know about Iran's history and culture. Islam has been the dominant religion in Iran for centuries, and Shia Islam has been the dominant branch of Islam in Iran for even longer. Iran's religious and cultural traditions are deeply rooted in Islam, and it's unlikely that such a large percentage of the population would suddenly abandon this religion.

And when you look at their website, its transparent that there are political or ideological motivations behind GAMAAN's claim. In conclusion, the lack of transparency and credibility of GAMAAN's claims, combined with potential biases and inconsistencies with other reliable sources, suggest that it may be part of a disinformation campaign or have other motivations behind its assertion. StarkReport (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

:This has been discussed to death on the talk page of Religion in Iran ↗. The GAMAAN survey (which is attributed to the source, and is not regarded as a fact) has many reliable sources (The Conversation, Iran International, Manoto, Kayhan Life, etc). When a story is covered by many reliable sources, then it indeed belongs to Wikipedia. Of equal importance, since there's no legal way to leave Islam in Iran, the census figures are also not a RS in terms of what people actually believe and practice (only how the government identifies people).https://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-atheists/atheists-face-death-in-13-countries-global-discrimination-study-idUSBRE9B900G20131210 ↗ The challenge about researching a totalitarian state is that it's very difficult to get reliable information about what is going on inside. If their claims were true, we wouldn't be having stuff such as the Mahsa Amini protests ↗ and women protesting mandatory hijab laws as far back as 1979 ↗. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
::Even reputable sources can make mistakes and have biases, and we must recognize that the aforementioned sources have a track record of skewing against Iran. However, it is essential to note that the protests are not against the religion of Islam, but rather against the violence and brutality that the regime inflicts upon women. This can be seen in other contexts as well. For instance, Pakistan has a 95% Muslim population but if the Pakistani government were to enforce a draconian law on mandatory cover for women, it would likely spark thousands of protests. However, this would not be an indicator that the people protesting are non-Muslims.
::Regarding the previous discussions that have reached an erroneous consensus, GAMAAN so-called survey widely distorts reality. It's like giving too much weight to a fringe notion. Therefore, I urge you to reconsider the content of the poll and base Wikipedia on more reliable sources. StarkReport (talk) 13:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Well, one of the reasons behind the protests are due to Islamic values forced upon the people. I suggest you create one final discussion in the talk page of said article and reach a new WP:CON ↗. I'm fine with removal of said source if a new consensus opts against inclusion. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

About Shah Cheragh attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Shah_Cheragh_attack#%22Mass_shooting%22?

The sources mentioned on the talk page all describes them as a '''terror attack''', the '''International''' section is in contradiction with the lead of the article, should the attack be described as a '''terror attack''' in accordance with the UN statements and other states describing it as a terror attack, or should we let "mass shooting"? Should media sources, which are nearly all coming from hostile country to Iran, be kept as a main source to describe it as a "mass shooting" or should we rely on UN and other countries officially describing it as a terror attack? Also i have really no clue how an ISIS attack could be describe as a "mass shooting". <small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by Tsunet (talk • contribs ↗) 12:54, 31 March 2023 (UTC)</small> 
:* "''Should media sources, which are nearly all coming from hostile country to Iran..."''
:Wikipedia is not ↗ written saying "this source comes from a hostile nation" (WP:SOAPBOX ↗). It is written using reliable sources ↗. Nothing else. Iran (like many other countries) has close to zero freedom of press. See Censorship in Iran ↗. Thus Iranian sources are not reliable for topics related to politics, amongst others. Keep in mind that obviously not every publication from let's say the US or Germany is RS. Otherwise we wouldn't have stuff such as ''The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey ↗''. But its more of a case-to-case problem over there, rather than systematic and on a massive scale, such as in Iran. Lastly, if you believe you have found non-WP:RS content somewhere, you are free to bring it to WP:RSN ↗. - LouisAragon (talk) 18:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
::This isn't the subject, the UN as well as other states condemned it as a terror attack, there is no source on the article describing it as a "mass shooting", it should be changed to "terror attack" and reliable sources (FM statements of non-Iran countries and the United Nations). Other than that I've never heard of ISIS doing "mass shooting", all their attacks are described as a terrorist attack, ISIS is a terrorist group.
::<ref>{{Cite web |title=Terrorist Attack in Shiraz city of Iran (Statement by Press Secretary ONO Hikariko) |url=https://www.mofa.go.jp/press/release/press3e_000488.html |access-date=2023-03-31 |website=Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan |language=en}}</ref>
::<ref>{{Cite web |title=Statement attributable to the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General - on attack at Shah Cheragh Holy Shrine in Shiraz, Iran {{!}} United Nations Secretary-General |url=https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg/statement/2022-10-26/statement-attributable-the-spokesperson-for-the-secretary-general-attack-shah-cheragh-holy-shrine-shiraz-iran |access-date=2023-03-31 |website=www.un.org}}</ref>
::<ref>{{Cite web |title=No: 322, 27 October 2022, Press Release Regarding the Terrorist Attack in Iran / Republic of Türkiye Ministry of Foreign Affairs |url=https://www.mfa.gov.tr/no_-322_-iran-da-meydana-gelen-teror-saldirisi-hk.en.mfa |access-date=2023-03-31 |website=www.mfa.gov.tr}}</ref>
::<ref>{{Cite web |title=Sayyed Ammar Al-Hakim condemns the terrorist targeting in Afghanistan |url=https://ina.iq/eng/22128-sayyed-ammar-al-hakim-condemns-the-terrorist-targeting-in-afghanistan.html |access-date=2023-03-31 |website=Iraqi News Agency}}</ref>
::<ref>{{Cite web |title=Armenian Foreign Ministry extends condolences to Iran on Shiraz terror attack |url=https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095820.html |access-date=2023-03-31 |website=armenpress.am |language=en}}</ref>
::<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> Tsunet (talk) 19:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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IMHO, people use that to lower discourse to an emotional level and/or because the have no rational argument to offer. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
:Yup. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Questionable edits on Parthian topics

Hi LouisAragon. How are you? What do you think about this stuff?

This map ↗

This book ↗ (looks like promoting their very own book as a reliable source)

this website ↗ and this Twitter account ↗

Take a look at their contributions ↗

Regards. --Mann Mann (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
:{{stalker}} Oh boi, knew there was something off. While I'm not LouisAragon, I have interacted with this user a few times. Not sure what's the correct choice from here on out. This is also concerning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zakarids%E2%80%93Mkhargrdzeli#Origins ↗. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
:I started a discussion on the Parthians talk page ↗. Unfortunately I will be in southern Missouri until late Sunday(with limited internet). --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:05, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|HistoryofIran}} It reminds me of this case ↗. Since I created {{t|Parthian Empire}}, I just browse the related articles sometimes (my old patrolling habit). Currently I don't edit historical topics, so I just wanted to notify LouisAragon. Guess it's a good idea to ping {{Ping|PericlesofAthens}} too. Those contributions need review. --Mann Mann (talk) 04:36, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks for pinging me. I don't have time to address this matter over the weekend, but I will try to take a look at it next week. Cheers. <strong><span style="color: blue;">Pericles of Athens</span></strong><sup><span style="color: #0000CD;">Talk</span></sup> 11:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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{{ping|LouisAragon}} I apologize for the confusion with my editing on sumka, the reason I made a mistake was because I could not find information that didn’t seem conflicting.

I wanted to ask where I could find some of these sources for sumka, as part of a personal project I’m doing regarding studying fascist movements worldwide. If you have any such sources, please let me know, it’d be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Firekong1 (talk) 19:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|Firekong1}} I have no idea, sorry. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
::It's fine. Firekong1 (talk) 20:46, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

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Unsourced edits

@LouisAragonI apologize, I wasn't attempting to start an edit war.

Should we mention the issue of all these unsourced edits on the talk page? If we can't prove it, we might as well remove it. Firekong1 (talk) 21:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|Firekong1}} IMHO, everything that is unsourced at this point, could/should be removed. It can be re-added at any point if sources are found. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:00, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks for letting me know. I'll go ahead and remove the ideologies and the categories. Firekong1 (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!

Greetings LouisAragon! It’s been a while now I’m seeing your absolutely amazing contribution concerning ancient and medieval Georgia-Persia related articles and wanted to extend my sincere gratitude. I really appreciate what you do. Regards, An emperor ✖ 00:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
:Gamarjoba, {{u|Emperor of Emperors}} :-) Thank you, I really appreciate it. And likewise; its always a good omen when I see your name pop up on my watchlist, regardless of whichever article. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

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Wrongful revision

Your revision on the iran ↗ talk page is wrongful. “Iran is the 10th-most populous country in Asia” is a neutral statement backed up with reliable evidence. What is the reason behind the deletion? Ricemaster12 (talk) 01:49, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

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I am doing a rewrite of an article ↗ and need your opinion if the "Official list of popes" section should stay or be removed. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Kansas Bear}} I'd lean towards "include". IMO, its probably sufficiently important/relevant. What do you think? - LouisAragon (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::Well you and Doug Weller think it has relevance so I will not be removing it. I thought it was a bit coat-rack-ish(ie. Off topic). Thanks for your opinion.--Kansas Bear (talk) 16:47, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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Greetings

Apologies for my unsourced editing, I was in no way trying to be disruptive. I am only trying to expand and create categories, but sometimes it’s difficult for me to tell which sources I can use and which I can’t. Should I undo my previous edits I made on previous articles in the meantime?
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:Wikipedia is written using reliable sources ↗. Every edit has to be verifiable and backed up by sources. You ''can't'' merely add such categories if a political party or individual is not "fascist" according to WP:RS. The same applies to all the other categories you attempted to introduce into articles in the past that I or others reverted. We've been through this on several occassions in the past and you know it. I will give you one final chance even though I fear we have already reached the domain of WP:CIR ↗. Next time, I will have to report you to WP:ANI. We can't keep cleaning up the mess you leave behind with all due respect (i.e. a good chunk of your edits are wasting the community's times and are therefore unfortunately detrimental) - LouisAragon (talk) 00:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
::Regarding your inquiries, kindly see WP:RS (which I already linked above). It has all the information you require. You can bring particular sources to WP:RSN ↗ if you are unsure about their reliability, but generally speaking, when in (strong) doubt, you should just stay away from them. That's what I do too. Yes, it would be beneficial to the project if you undid any adjustments you felt were done without supporting evidence. Hope this helps. If you have further inquiries, you should visit WP:TEA ↗ (they're really helpful over there). - LouisAragon (talk) 00:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Thank you, will do. Firekong1 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Am I allowed to post discussions asking about putting categories before I edit? Firekong1 (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Firekong1}} You can start a talk page section if you think there are contentious categories that are relevant to the article. That would be best practise. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:26, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
::::::Of course, thank you for the tip. Firekong1 (talk) 14:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

For allowing me to explain myself, for giving me another chance, and for linking the pages I made mistakes on. I undid a few of my edits and am currently trying to fix any pages I made mistakes on.

I suppose I fell for it again because I saw pages such as Boko haram categorized as far right without citation, and that made me go down into a bit of a slippery slope. But I will be more vigilant from now on and look for proper sources before editing. However, I’m not too sure which sources would be allowed to use on Wikipedia. Firekong1 (talk) 21:34, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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Too similar?

Hi. I just looked at Central Asia ↗ revision history, and it seems Special:Contributions/WikiAmerican1 ↗ is just the new account of Special:Contributions/Ricemaster12 ↗. Very similar edits/comments on very same articles/talk pages. It is not a sockpuppetry case because the original account is stale, but it is better to review and verify their edits. --Mann Mann (talk) 07:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Mann Mann}} Yeah, I recall that account. I concur that they exhibit a significant overlap in promoting the same peculiar POV ("South Asianizing" Iran, while integrating Central Asia and Afghanistan with areas to the West and North), in violation of WP:RS ↗, WP:UNDUE ↗ and WP:OR ↗. (amongst others). Overal WP:TENDENTIOUS ↗ at its core. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::I reverted their edit.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Central_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=1197872321 ↗ However, the article seems have some more issues; e.g. citing unreliable sources like thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Central_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=1197873264 ↗ (which I removed it and tagged the part). --Mann Mann (talk) 06:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 73

Four new partnerships

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Books & Bytes – Issue 74

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