User Talk: Maria0215
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Looks like 이성계1 doesn't really understand English
If you want them to stop, you probably need to talk to them in Korean. (If you don't speak Korean well, you need to find someone else.) 112.171.88.56 ↗ (talk) 05:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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Deleting Korean text in lead of articles
Please don't do so; MOS:KO-LEAD ↗. grapesurgeon (talk) 10:58, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
:This was done in numerous articles... Please add the Korean text back. grapesurgeon (talk) 11:00, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
::I was following the style of the Taejo of Joseon article. And I think it's easier to read this way, without repeating what already appears in the infobox. Maria0215 (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Please take it up as an MOS-level discussion, I'm not the one to convince. Can you please add that text back? grapesurgeon (talk) 11:13, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
:::I'll take that as a no :/ grapesurgeon (talk) 11:12, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
::::? I did add the korean text back Maria0215 (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::Ah I missed that, sorry and thanks grapesurgeon (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
:By the way, I noticed that they have been fiddling with Infobox Korean name. For example, they have been deliberately removing real names of historical people from Infobox Korean name. I don't know why they are doing this.
:* Example 1: before ↗, after ↗
:* Example 2: before ↗, after ↗
:* Example 3: before ↗, after ↗
:~2026-34704-45 ↗ (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::@Maria0215 could you explain why you're doing the above? grapesurgeon (talk) 02:35, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::What was deleted from Infobox korean name has already been added to the infobox above (the after examples are not current). I don't think this infriges on any rules and adding too much to the Infobox korean name also makes the articles look clunky. Maria0215 (talk) 02:52, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Well, one of the reasons for using Infobox Korean name is to show RR and MR romanizations. The international Korean studies community still usually uses MR, so including MR romanizations for real names of historical people would be quite useful. MR spellings can help people find articles. ~2026-34988-48 ↗ (talk) 03:29, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::Then it would be better to be able to hide the infobox. I acknowledge that I have no idea how it can be done or even about technical terms as most of my editing work consists of formatting, cleaning, and adding information from corresponding (usually Korean) articles. But frankly, if everything has to be in it without an option of hide it away, people will get tired of scrolling before reaching the first section (e.g. Gojong of Korea is already too much as it is, but there's still his original personal name, the changed one and the princely title). Perhaps the romanization for what is not in this infobox might be added in an explanatory note? Maria0215 (talk) 03:46, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::I had been thinking that, like {{tl|infobox Chinese}}, we could make the romanizations hidden by default. Would decrease vertical height a bit (although not by that much).
::::::Moreover, rather than deleting on your own initiative, could you instead have more system-wide conversations about these kinds of things before deviating from the norm? When you deviate without consulting others or making the change consistent across articles, it creates a confusing diversity of practice. Better to keep it consistent to make it easier for others. grapesurgeon (talk) 04:40, 14 June 2026 (UTC)