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November 2010

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Gattaca ↗

Hello, Math-ghamhainn, and thanks for your interest in the article ''Gattaca ↗''. You recently made an addition to that article, and another editor removed it. At that point the proper thing to do would have been to go to the talk page and discuss the issue, not to re-add your addition. See the essay WP:BRD ↗ which suggests that we should be '''Bold''' in our editing (which you were), that if someone objects they '''Revert''' (that's what the other editor did), and that then the article is left alone while the issue is '''Discussed''' at the article's talk page ↗. I reverted your re-addition of the wording, and I want to explain why. It was not because I agreed or disagreed with it; it was because it was time to discuss rather than getting into an edit war ↗. I hope you will come to the talk page and let's figure out whether we want to put this in the article and if so how. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 20:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I understand. That makes sense to me. I haven't been involved in one of these edit/revert/edit exchanges before.

Phosphorylation sites

Hi. I noticed that you have been adding the following citation to a large number of articles:

{{cite journal | vauthors = Xu Q, Malecka KL, Fink L, Jordan EJ, Duffy E, Kolander S, Peterson JR, Dunbrack RL | title = Identifying three-dimensional structures of autophosphorylation complexes in crystals of protein kinases | journal = Science Signaling | volume = 8 | issue = 405 | pages = rs13 | year = 2015 | pmid = 26628682 | doi = 10.1126/scisignal.aaa6711 }}

with the statement that a phosphorylation site within this protein has been identified without any indication why this phosphorylation is significant. These article are about individual proteins, not phosphorylation sites. Material and supporting citations should only be added to a Wikipedia article if the material is significant. From the source, It appears the function of these phosphorylation sites is not yet know. If the function is not known, then the material is by definition not significant. Furthermore the above is a WP:PRIMARY ↗ source whereas Wikipedia prefers ↗ secondary sources (review articles). The reason for this is two fold. Not all research can be repeated and not all research is notable ↗. Research that has been reviewed in review articles increases both the reliability and notability of the results. Finally adding the same citation to a number of articles suggests that you may have a conflict of interest ↗. Hence I have reverted the addition of this material. Boghog (talk) 14:04, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello, I'm I dream of horses. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to the main body of :GALA Choruses ↗. Generally, any relevant external links should be listed in an "External links" section at the end of the article and meet the external links guidelines ↗. Links within the body of an article should be internal Wikilinks ↗. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page ↗. Thank you.  <span style="border:1px solid #ffa500;background:#f3dddd;"> I dream of horses </span><span style="border:1px solid #ffa500">{{small| If you reply here, please ping me ↗ by adding <nowiki>{{U|I dream of horses}}</nowiki> to your message }}</span> {{small|(talk to me) (My edits ↗)}} @ 00:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

{{U|I dream of horses}} I'm sure that's true of general wikipedia articles but this is a list of choruses and the vast majority of them do not have wikipedia pages. It would seem silly to construct this page as a list of choruses and then have all the links in the external links section. It seems like the links should be in there only once and make sense in the section with the list of choruses. Rules should be applied when they make sense. I think in this case that rule does not make sense. LGBT choruses are important for many people, whether just coming out or moving to a new city or just wanting to be a part of the community. These links will help people looking to join these choruses as well as audience members.

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Thanks for the backbone-dependent rotamer library ↗ article! Just a couple of suggestions - it's often recommended that people who have a COI with their article topics, as you indicated in your edits to the article, should use the Wikipedia:Articles for Creation ↗ process. But it's most suited for topics like biographies, and isn't as effective for technical topics. A better place to get people to look at your work in this area is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Molecular Biology ↗ - the talk page for the most active relevant project. Since this is a pretty obscure subject by general-encyclopedia standards, it'd be great to build out the topic area a little, either with more context in the article itself or in related articles. I don't see that we have much coverage of rotamers in proteins in general, for example. Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Reply: Thanks. I did sign it up for the Molecular Biology project and Computational Biology project but I didn't put anything on the talk page for those projects. I will do that in the future. Do I need approval in the future? I think the message from wikipedia is that I didn't if I had done enough edits. I am still new to generating articles although I have edited a fair number of pages.

I've thought about a general protein rotamer page, that would include rotamer libraries and the some conformational analysis (why the rotamer populations are not evenly distributed). I have some material on this topic here: http://dunbrack.fccc.edu/bbdep2010/ConformationalAnalysis.php. Then such an article could point to the backbone-dependent rotamer library page for more info on that specifically.

Thanks for approving the article. I look forward to improving it with the help of other wikipedia folks.
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:Great! For this kind of topic, I think the wikiproject pages will do better at getting people who are familiar with the area to take a look. For approvals: there's actually two different forms of new-article reviewing. One is the process you used, Wikipedia:Articles for Creation ↗, where you first create your article in draft space or in a user sandbox and then submit it for review as a mainspace article. This is often suggested to new editors and is the standard recommendation for topics where you have a COI. This process can take a long time because it has a very large queue, and is especially slow for technical topics because the queue isn't really organized by subject and most reviewers are not topic specialists. However, getting a formal review through this process is optional and you can choose to create articles in mainspace or move them there yourself. The second process, usually called Wikipedia:New pages patrol ↗, is applied to all new pages, especially pages that are new to mainspace. These reviewers are also mostly non-specialists and you may get some advice in the form of tags on the page but they will tend to be very general suggestions. Editors who have created a lot of new articles are eligible for a user flag ↗ that skips this process. My suggestion is to create a sandbox or draft article for topics where you have a COI and ask editors from relevant wikiprojects to review, since they're more likely to be familiar with the topic than people working through the queues. If your article is on a general subject then it's usually better to just create it in mainspace, or move your sandbox yourself.

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I saw you and otehr users edited Martin Karplus page to add his death date. I don't doubt the information, but reliable sources (that means obituaries from institutions, family obituaries, news, NOT social networks) are needed in order to make such an edit. I guess an obituary will be published soon, given the importance of prof. Karplus in the field.

From a personal point of view, I met prof. Karplus in Strasbourg some time ago. If I'm not being indiscreet, do you have more info about how he died? People in the know told me he was doing well earlier this year.

Thank you and best regards Folengo (talk) 08:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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:I understand now that it is perhaps better until the death is announced publicly before posting it anywhere (here or on social media). It has not been posted on social media that I am aware of. I will post it to bluesky only after it is made public (in the Boston Globe or by Harvard). I interact with many other scientists in our field that will be saddened by Martin's death. I was a graduate student of his from 1987 to 1993, and also an undergraduate researcher from 1983-1985.
:He has been frail for some time. I saw him this summer at an award ceremony that the Austrian ambassador held for him in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He was alert and talkative but struggled to stand or walk. He broke his leg in October and had surgery, and was staying in a rehab facility until about 2 weeks ago. He returned home 10 days before his death. He became very tired over the last couple of days before his death, and passed away after taking to bed Saturday evening. This is according to his wife Marci, who relayed this information to one of Martin's longest-term collaborators (and former postdocs). Math-ghamhainn (talk) 20:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you so much. Still no obituary after four days. This is not right, Stoddart got immediate and adequate coverage. I'm writing to the Boston Globe tomorrow. --Folengo (talk) 18:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, it seems a bit odd. Maybe because of the New Year holiday. I'll wait until tomorrow, Jan 2 to post it further. There are a few X/bluesky posts already. Math-ghamhainn (talk) 05:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

::::I wrote to the Boston Globe, and they are quite blatantly ignoring me. There goes yet another day with no press release or obituary, which grows more absurd by the hour.--Folengo (talk) 17:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, seems really weird. They're also probably waiting for an announcement from the university. In the case of a non-famous person, the family would submit an obituary to a local newspaper. In the case of a famous person like Martin, the newspaper would write something after being able to confirm the death with the family or relevant institution. Math-ghamhainn (talk) 01:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

::The family (I suppose) has published a Legacy obituary ↗. Very scarce (there is not even the date of death), but enough to mark him as deceased while waiting for better sources.--Folengo (talk) 07:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Paul Engstrom ↗ (January 10)

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{{divbox|gray|3=This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article ↗—that is, they do not show ''significant'' coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in ''published'', ''reliable'' ↗, ''secondary'' ↗ sources that are ''independent ↗'' of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people ↗). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help ↗ and learn about mistakes to avoid ↗ when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.|}} The comment the reviewer left was:

{{divbox|blue|3=Needs sources not affiliated with the subject.}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit it ''after they have been resolved''.
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<span style="color: blue">Lynch</span><span style="color:#FFD700">44</span> 12:37, 10 January 2026 (UTC)</div>

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