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False or misleading statements by Donald Trump
Please do not deliberately introduce no-target errors ↗ as you did here ↗. While your intentions may have been good, you broke references in the text. If you want to get rid of those sources you will need to re-write the article to avoid using them. DuncanHill (talk) 20:18, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
: Sorry, a bad start to the year. My mistake was that I didn't appreciate there were Template:Sfn ↗ cites. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 21:39, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
CS1 error on 2026 in climate change ↗
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Christian nationalism image
Hi RCraig09!
I don't know if you take requests, but would it be possible for a version of the image from this ↗ Axios article about the prevalence of Christian nationalism in the United States? I believe this would greatly serve as a visual aid for the page on this topic. Unfortunately, I am not as skilled with image editing to make this myself! BootsED (talk) 14:18, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
: {{reply|BootsED}} I'm not an expert at map graphics, so I recommend you place a request at Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop ↗. Best of luck. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 15:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for the heads up! BootsED (talk) 23:58, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Illegal immigration § Requested move 25 February 2026 ↗
25px|link=|alt= ↗ You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Illegal immigration § Requested move 25 February 2026 ↗. <!-- Template:Please see --> Edittttor (talk) 20:31, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
Graphing tool
What tool did you use to create :File:2017- Donald Trump veracity - composite graph.png ↗? Did you have applicable work experience? ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 21:15, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
: {{reply|Mandruss}} Microsoft Excel --> export to PNG --> minor revisions and text additions in Photoshop Elements. Electronics engineer with a MS in computer science: I have been mostly self-taught in graphics. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 21:24, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yikes. I'm merely a retired software developer with a high school diploma. I don't have Excel or Elements, let alone know how to create a graph with them. Too old and tired to feel like that much of a learning effort. I want to create a graph showing how Trump's net worth changed over a span of years, as estimated by Forbes. Forbes has the most accurate, least biased estimates that we've run across so far.{{pb}}Would you have any interest in collaborating with me on that? I could help find the data points in reliable sources (I don't think Forbes maintains the history in an accessible form). I ran across an independent graph showing Forbes' estimates for 2014-2024, but I failed to save the URL and now I can't find it. Also I would prefer a wider time span, since most of that time span was while he was in office. I don't wish to give the appearance of trying to make a political point with this graph ("look how much he has used the office to get richer!"). My goal is merely to provide neutral factual information and allow the reader to derive what they choose to derive from it. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 21:58, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
::{{tq|(I don't think Forbes maintains the history in an accessible form)}} - But I could be wrong. This ↗ comes directly from Forbes and would make a good Wikipedia graph. For now, my part of the work is done! Maybe the graph could be extended farther back using other RS, but that would be Phase 2. That should also be Forbes estimates, else it would be an apples-and-oranges graph; but it wouldn't necessarily have to come ''directly'' from Forbes.{{pb}}I think we would be largely dependent on you to keep the graph updated with each year's new estimate—unless you could find someone willing to assume that responsibility. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 00:02, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
::I would first add the graph to Wealth of Donald Trump ↗. If accepted there, I would try it at Donald Trump ↗. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 00:31, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
::: {{reply|Mandruss}} I found longer-duration charts at this archive ↗ (slow to render) and this archive ↗ (faster to render, but from the deprecated archive.today)—both direct from ''Forbes''. I'm very willing to do a chart, especially if this data looks acceptable to you. Let me know if you have further thoughts before I proceed, so there's no wasted effort. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 05:02, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
::::The Wayback one is a good find.
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::::Some of those discrepancies are significant, probably any above 5% absolute. One could reason that Forbes graph 2 is more accurate, having been published three years later. Except for 2016 and 2017, that would work against Trump's favor (too bad for Trump). On the other hand, his 2016 and 2017 would look a lot better. I guess I'm suggesting that you use Forbes graph 2 for the years 2001-2026, unless you have a better idea.{{pb}}The space for the years 1990-1995 should be spanned with one occurrence of the words "no data".{{pb}}For the purposes of this chart, I don't think we need the numbers at the top of each bar as in Forbes graph 2. The vast majority of readers don't need that kind of precision; those who do can refer to the cited sources. From a UI standpoint, every visual element of the chart should earn its keep with a high bar. Just a Y-axis scale is enough, at perhaps $1B increments.{{pb}}What do you think about using a line graph instead of a bar graph? ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 05:22, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
Suggested image caption, short and to the point:{{tq2|Trump's net worth for the years 1982–2026, as estimated by ''Forbes ↗''<ref>Source for years 1982–2000. {{cite magazine |date=October 3, 2023 |title=Here's How Much Donald Trump Is Worth |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20231110003952/https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |archive-date=November 10, 2023 |magazine=Forbes ↗ |access-date=March 28, 2026}}</ref><ref>Source for years 2001–2026. {{cite magazine |date=March 25, 2026 |title=Here's How Much Donald Trump Is Worth |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |magazine=Forbes ↗ |access-date=March 28, 2026}}</ref>}} ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 09:26, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
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thumb|upright=1.2|This chart at {{para|upright|1.2}} ↗
thumb |upright=1.2 |Trump's net worth over time, as estimated by ''Forbes ↗'' magazine<ref name=Forbes1982->Source for years 1982–2000: {{cite magazine |date=October 3, 2023 |title=Here's How Much Donald Trump Is Worth |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20231110003952/https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |archive-date=November 10, 2023 |magazine=[[Forbes ↗ |access-date=March 28, 2026}} Data is not available for 1990 to 1995 because Trump was not included in the Forbes 400 list.</ref><ref name=Forbes2001->Source for years 2001–2026: {{cite magazine |date=March 25, 2026 |title=Here's How Much Donald Trump Is Worth |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |magazine=Forbes ↗ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260325200507/https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-definitive-networth-of-donaldtrump/ |archive-date=25 March 2026 |url-status=live}}</ref>]]
I see you using {{para|upright|1.5}} for charts. I think that would be too much for the relatively short Donald Trump#Wealth ↗, which is about more than net worth. (That existing image would have to be relocated or removed.) I might go as high as {{para|upright|1.2}} there. I say this because it might impact your choices for text size. Be careful not to make any text too small to be easily legible at 1.2, bearing in mind that some (many?) readers have poor vision. From MOS:SMALLFONT ↗: "No text should be reduced below 85% of the page's default font size." {{small|This sentence is the recommended minimum size.}} This principle isn't often applied to text within images, but it should be imo. Accessibility is no less important with charts. Consider marking only every tenth year on the X-axis (1990, 2000, 2010, 2020). ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 13:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
Can we consult about typefaces before you start? Make me an offer. I have no particular preferences except sans serif. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 13:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
: {{reply|Mandruss}} I plan to generate a chart by the end of the weekend. Broadly, I agree with your suggestions above. {{purple|{{font|font=Liberation Sans|'''Liberation Sans'''}}}} is acceptable on Commons from a copyright standpoint, as used in the Democracy Indices chart ↗ you have posted above. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 15:06, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::Ok, I was kind of thinking that typeface would probably work. What do you think about using a line graph instead of a bar graph? ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 15:28, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::: Graphists would probably favor a bar chart (''Forbes'' does). Line charts tend to communicate quantities that ~continuously change or have a definite ~smooth trend, while bar charts represent quantities of which we take periodic snapshots or that vary more spasmodically. While it is theoretically true that DJT's net worth varies from moment to moment (depending on the news of the day), for tax and accounting purposes such quantities are ''measured'' annually or maybe quarterly. Collectively, these observations favor a bar chart—which I will pursue. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 18:11, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Ok. Considered and mutually rejected. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 19:00, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
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::::: Chart is uploaded in .svg format, with future-proofed caption and expanded footnotes. I used procedure described in User:RCraig09/Excel to XML for SVG. If there are no objections as to substance, I will post to article(s) within a few days. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 17:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::That was fast. Looks awesome. Love your understated color choice. If I wanted to be very picky (I don't), I would enlarge the X-axis labels a little, per earlier discussion here. I might bold the $xBs since they appear pretty "thin" at 1.2. Or make them black for maximum contrast on white. Somewhat more important would be enlarging the "no data" text, which I can't read at all at 1.2. So much for not being picky. Strategically speaking, I think I should do the BOLD at Donald Trump ↗, and that only after acceptance elsewhere. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 00:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::: In Version 2, I blackened and enlarged vertical axis labels to 45 pixels, and enlarged horizontal axis labels to 40 px. (In my hundreds of charts, I've treated 35 px as readable even without <code>upright=</code> designations.) Because "Data unavailable" is a side issue (what's important is the trend), I purposely reduced it so that casual readers wouldn't be inspired to read it; details are in the textual caption's footnote. I think it's ready for primetime. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 03:33, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Ok. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 05:38, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For :File:1982- Net worth of Donald Trump.svg ↗, now accepted at two articles. Better quality than the Forbes charts on which it is based. Great aesthetics and not a pixel wasted. And fast! The problem with being really good at something: You may get asked to do it a lot. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 22:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
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: Mandruss: Merci, danke, gracias, grazie, etc. and thanks for the suggestion to create the net worth chart. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 03:50, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
AI and AGI
I've been watching a lot of related videos on YouTube. What are your thoughts? ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 07:29, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
: {{reply|Mandruss}} I don't know what you are getting at. In what context: Wiki content? Generating charts? Affecting democracy? —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 15:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::Affecting humanity. If you believe some of the experts, we're in for a colossal shitstorm very soon, if not collapse of civilization or extinction of the species—unless we enact a pause in AI development to give us more time study it. Here's Bernie Sanders ↗ with a good 37-minute overview of the problem. He doesn't claim to be an expert on the subject, but he claims to take his ideas from experts—and the ideas are consistent with what I've seen from many of the recognized experts who lack a massive profit motive.{{pb}}Dude, you don't have to keep pinging me from here. You have a guaranteed share of my attention for awhile. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 15:23, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::: We're already seeing humans over-relying on AI, which does not articulate the ~reasoning underlying its conclusions or actions. Though I'm skeptical about the extreme view that AI will destroy humanity, a pause in AI development is about as likely as a pause in human avarice. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 18:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
::::{{tq|a pause in AI development is about as likely as a pause in human avarice.}} Sure, but such a pause would be legislated, not voluntary. To whatever extent lawmakers don't own AI stock, avarice is not much of a factor. If lawmakers think it will improve their chances of re-election, they will vote for a pause.{{pb}}I'm currently in the middle on this. I think collapse of Western civilization is more likely than human extinction, but I'm giving us only about 50 years. Glad I won't be around to see much more of it, but I pity my grandchildren. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 02:53, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
POV graphs
This isn't aimed at a specific edit of yours, it's just a pattern that I've noticed about your edits. A lot of the graphs you add give off a hint of WP:POV ↗. This isn't saying there's anything wrong with the sources themselves, it's just how you present it. I'm not one to give my personal opinion on your edits or if it's wrong or right to do so, but I think you need to understand that it can be seen that way. <span style="color: maroon">Cutlass</span><sup><span style="color: blue">Ciera</span></sup> 00:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Wanted to say hi!
Hey, I saw your name come up in some recent watched thread and figured I should say hi! I didn't realize your email was down. How have things been going? Springee (talk) 23:41, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
: 'ello there {{reply|Springee}} Is there a particular issue or suggestion that you want to raise? —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 05:43, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
::No, it was just one of those blast from the past things. Springee (talk) 11:38, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
Question about SVG chart spreadsheet logic/documentation
Hi RCraig09,
I have been looking at your SVG chart spreadsheets, and I am interested in creating an open-source web application that would do something similar, but through a simpler browser-based interface.
My rough idea is to let users enter data and chart settings in a web form, then generate clean SVG output automatically, without needing to work directly through the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet system is very impressive, but the underlying logic is quite difficult to follow from the formulas alone.
I was wondering whether you happen to have any documentation, design notes, pseudocode, or other explanation of the logic behind the spreadsheets?
I would of course credit your work properly if I build anything influenced by your approach. No worries if no such documentation exists, but I thought it was worth asking. Windowellington (talk) 06:51, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
thumb |Basic idea of using a spreadsheet to form text strings, this example being SVG code. ↗
: {{reply|Windowellington}} The only detailed "documentation" I have is what's in the spreadsheets themselves, and what I've written in User:RCraig09/Excel to XML for SVG and User:RCraig09/Excel to XML for SVG/How to. Spreadsheets weren't designed for the specific purpose of assembling text strings, but I simplified the user's experience to a copy-and-paste procedure. It was a painstaking process to develop the formulas in each spreadsheet cell, and I don't envy the coder who will attempt to make an html-based equivalent. Sorry. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 14:12, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
Link
Hey, RCraig! Any chance you can figure out the target for climate regime shifts ↗ at Super_El_Niño_events#Impact ↗? Valereee (talk) 22:59, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
: {{reply|Valereee}} Tipping points in the climate system ↗ it is, methinks. I've inserted the destination article name. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 03:17, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! Valereee (talk) 10:33, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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: Thank you, User:Pachu Kannan. The times demand our attention. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 18:44, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
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: I have replaced this graphic in the PBA Tour ↗ article and, on Commons, nominated another editor's two copyvio substitute logos for deletion. —<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:dark blue;">RCraig09 (talk)</span> 02:16, 19 June 2026 (UTC)