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FortunateSons (talk) 14:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your edits at Olivia Frank ↗



Please be aware of the relevant restrictions above, particularly concerning the I/P conflict.

I like your edits, but am slightly confused why you removed this ↗ reference? FortunateSons (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

:thanks for letting me know about the policy.
:i changed the reference from a Tablet article generally about Hoffmann ↗ to the specific Tablet article that covers Frank saying she recognized Hoffman. ↗
:just realized the first link was there because that was the actual Tablet article she read where she recognized Hoffman. i don't think that was clear before.
:perhaps it should be a note rather than the reference? For example, "This ↗ is the Tablet article where she recognized Hoffman." Rainsage (talk) 15:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
::Makes sense, it’s probably a good idea :)
::I will think about the optimal way to include it. FortunateSons (talk) 12:53, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Ok sounds good. Rainsage (talk) 19:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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:thank you! Rainsage (talk) 14:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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:Ok thanks for letting me know. I got confused between the two policies. Will remember for future. Rainsage (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
:Well I looked up "bold-revert-discuss" ↗ and it says it's optional and not mandated policy. As far as I know, 1RR is not optional. Sure, we can follow BRD, but it seems unfair to term me asking you to follow 1RR as "disruptive editing". Rainsage (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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:Thank you for the note and for fixing it. Rainsage (talk) 04:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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:thank you! Rainsage (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Rainsage. I'm looking for experienced editors to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. <span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span> (talk) 22:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi! Based on your work on the Simon Nkoli ↗ article, have you considered nominating it as a Wikipedia:Good article ↗? Iostn (talk) 19:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

:hello, thanks for noticing :) i am planning to do some more work on it first before trying for GA. Rainsage (talk) 02:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hamasnik editor who changes things to skew public opinion of terror organization. 184.96.163.66 ↗ (talk) 14:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for the enforcement request I look forward to talking to you. You seem to have got the hang of Wikipedia after 2,000 edits so nicely done. Ecpiandy (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

WOL summary vs Kiswani's Conflicts surrounding protests



Could you find another home for the section you restored? It doesn't fit under the WOL brief summary, because it's primarily about Kiswani, not about her work with WOL per se. Maybe make a new section for controversies surrounding protests? Would love your thoughts about how to make the logic of the article flow a little better. DuckOfOrange (talk) 07:42, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

:Hello,
:Please respond to my message on the Kiswani talk page, so it's easier to keep track of this conversation. Thanks! Rainsage (talk) 07:45, 26 February 2025 (UTC)


EDIT: Sorry just saw you responded on the relevant talk page - let's discuss there. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by Iamnotanorange~enwiki (talkcontribs ↗) 08:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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There's isn't a template for this, but this arbitration motion thread mentions you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions#Smallangryplanet_and_Lf8u2 ↗ <span class="nowrap">Chess (talk) <small>(please mention ↗ me on reply)</small></span> 08:54, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

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<s>Hello Rainsage. I receive notifications any time you comment on an article talk page I am actively involved in. There is no need to separately ping me each and every time on my own user talk page. Iljhgtn (talk) 16:13, 8 June 2025 (UTC)</s>

:great thanks for letting me know. Rainsage (talk) 16:13, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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<s>Hi again Rainsage. Please just answer the question I had related to WP:OWN ↗, WP:COI ↗, WP:UPE ↗ on the Israel Frey page. You have an extreme interest in the page so it is not out of the ordinary of problematic behavior and you have continued to deflect in not answering my query and now instead reacted by warning me in retaliation on my talk page.</s>

<s>In good faith, I had even said, "...though it is also possible you are not since it seems like you do just hold a heightened interest in many Israel-Palestine related subject matter articles in general given a review of your edit history. If you are not, then simply make that clear now." </s>

<s>All that would have been necessary there is a basic refutation and clarification and we then move on to continuing to discuss the content of the article. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:12, 1 August 2025 (UTC)</s>

:After I reverted your changeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301820937 ↗, I started a discussion on the Talk page to give you my reasons for my revert.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301821762 ↗ Your initial response was to violate 1RR https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301809535 ↗ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301892382 ↗, accuse me of WP:OWN and WP:POV, and refrain from responding to my pointshttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301892932 ↗. Once you and 2 other editors participated in the discussion, all of the issues I had raised in my initial post were resolved.
:Since you have continued to cast aspersions, I made a post on your talk page asking you to either provide evidence for your accusations or stop https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Iljhgtn&diff=prev&oldid=1302889048 ↗. Now you are here, adding more aspersions to my Talk page. If you truly think that I am violating policies, you can report me. But I personally don't see how starting a Talk page discussion to solve our content dispute is WP:OWN or how my alleged "extreme interest" shows I have a WP:COI. Rainsage (talk) 18:01, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
::<s>I was just looking for a direct answer to my query related to UPE and COI. The behavior having created the page and then the OWN behavior after, especially for a BLP such as this, would normally get me to tag the page with potential for undisclosed paid editing potential. I was only asking that you deny and disavow such potential in clear terms. You have refused countless times now to just say, "No, I am not", unless I missed that. Which in that case, I apologize for the oversight and will just move on. Iljhgtn (talk) 16:17, 3 August 2025 (UTC)</s>
:::It sounds like you don't understand what OWN behavior is. I've avoided edit warring and attempted to resolve our content disputes through discussion despite your personal attacks against me; that is the opposite of OWN behavior. If you had actual evidence for your COI/UPE accusations, I would be happy to respond, but you don't. Given that you have cast aspersions instead of meaningfully responding to my points in talk page discussion,https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1301892932 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Israel_Frey&diff=prev&oldid=1294352794 ↗ it appears you make personal attacks in order to derail/avoid discussion. So I see no reason to entertain your aspersions. I agree that you should apologize and just move on. Rainsage (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

AJ sources


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<s>For the purposes if WP:PIA, Al Jazeera is considered a "biased source", and so we should find others to use on that subject area. Please self revert or find another source when editing in this area. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)</s>

:<s>Whereas ToI is considered just "potentially biased" on PIA, "The Times of Israel is generally reliable, although potentially biased in certain topics like the Israeli–Palestinian conflict", AJ goes further it says, " Al Jazeera English and especially Al Jazeera Arabic are biased sources on the Arab–Israeli conflict". Given that, please either remove the content, add attribution, or self-revert to remove the source, and please restore the ToI source which you removed on the GHF article. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:11, 5 August 2025 (UTC)</s>
::Both AJ and TOI are considered "biased" but "generally reliable". Reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective. Both sources can be and are used widely in PIA. If you want to change AJ's designation as "generally reliable", you would have to open a new discussion on RSN.
::I replaced the liveblog version of the TOI article with the actual article. Why do you prefer the liveblog? Rainsage (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
:::<s>Did you? Maybe I looked at the history incorrectly. It looked like you were only removing the ToI and adding back Al Jazeera. "Potentially biased" and just plain is "biased" though are not exactly the same thing. Even without any further update to the RS/P. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:21, 5 August 2025 (UTC)</s>
::::Yes you did look at it incorrectly. Since you have a history of making false accusations against me, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rainsage#Re:Warning ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Israel_Frey&diff=next&oldid=1302263431 ↗ I would strongly recommend you be more careful in future, or you may face sanctions.
::::It doesn't matter; both are considered Generally Reliable. But if you truly think I am wrong, you should open a discussion on the Article Talk page or Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Rainsage (talk) 20:32, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::<s>I was just asking, in what I felt was a friendly manner (hard to convey over text via the internet) a question based on behavior or the perception of it. You are free to not answer it if you felt that I was being disrespectful, but know, that I was not. I don't know why you are now claiming that I levied "false accusations" when all I did was ask you a question, albeit repeatedly since I felt you were dodging in replying. Also, you are now conflating issues, because that thread was above, and in this one I am just discussing these sources with you. Again, in the interest of WP:AGF ↗, I apologize if you felt that I was accusing you of something. I felt I was asking. In my mind those are two different things. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:41, 5 August 2025 (UTC)</s>
::::::Well I certainly disagree with your interpretation of your behavior, but thank you for apologizing. Rainsage (talk) 20:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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:Hi, i uploaded this image to use on the Gaza Soup Kitchen page, but I see that you replaced it with a different logo. Just wondering if there's a reason you like the other logo better? Rainsage (talk) 07:06, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

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Hi you reverted my edit, which is fine - but can you take a look at the change I was suggesting please?

Alon Ohel: Deletion nomination - the inclusion purports to be "sexual violence" but the testimony clearly states that the action performed was washing the hostage "thoroughly so he would not develop skin rashes". Including it as "sexual violence" is a stretch, as even the quoted hostage finishes the story with "Luckily, it didn't go any further" Sellotapemaskingtape (talk) 08:32, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, you are not ECR yet, so you cannot make edits regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict anywhere on Wikipedia, except as formal edit requests ↗ on Talk pages. That means you weren’t supposed to make this post on my Talk page either.
:I already explained my reasoning at the Talk page ↗. If you still disagree you would have to wait until you are ECR to participate in the discussion. Rainsage (talk) 16:37, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

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CS1 error on Mohammad Hannoun ↗


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CS1 error on Juba Film Festival ↗


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CS1 error on Martin Oliner ↗


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The DCWC is open!



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