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:Thanks for the input. I did not know I was supposed to do that. I have added the attribution to 31-bit computing. RastaKins (talk) 17:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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PDP-11 architecture ↗
Thanks for your new text here mentioning coroutines. I tightened the paragraph up a bit. Your Edit Summary says that the text came from a "WD16 article" but I can't figure out what that is. It might help if you added a reference. Spike-from-NH (talk) 20:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for the edits. Look for WD16 ↗ in Wikipedia. RastaKins (talk) 14:14, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
I get it! I thought you meant "article" as in externally published article. Cheers! Spike-from-NH (talk) 03:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
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:Note to all: Fountains of Bryn Mawr has disingenuously posted this warning on my talk page. Mawr has been reverting my edits to the history of personal computers ↗ article; I have not been reverting Mawr. See history. I made the initial edit. There is a long discussion on the article's talk ↗ page. Notice Mawr's determined unwillingness to arrive at a consensus or provide constructive editing to improve the article. RastaKins (talk) 19:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Alpha Microsystems ↗ revert
Sounds like we have an issue with our source, then. The very title of the ''Dr. Dobbs'' article is "A PDP-11-Like 16-Bit Micro for the S-100 Bus". Why would that make its operating system ↗ more like the PDP-10 ↗ than the PDP-11 ↗? Bumm13 (talk) 21:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
:Okay, you're right, the Dr. Dobbs article does make several references to the ''operating system'' having various DecSystem-10 (PDP-10) conventions. Bumm13 (talk) 21:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
::What Wilcox is coyly talking about is that he heisted a lot of concepts from TOPS-10. Alpha Micro got sued for this by DEC. In particular from the TOPS-10 ↗ article: "TOPS-10 had a very robust application programming interface (API) that used a mechanism called a UUO or Unimplemented User Operation. UUOs implemented operating system calls in a way that made them look like machine instructions."
::What does this mean for the Alpha Micro? AMOS SVCA B and C operating system calls (see WD16 ↗) used standard PDP-11 addressing modes for their arguments. So you could open a file in any of these ways:
::OPEN file
::OPEN file(R2)
::LEA R2, file; OPEN @R2
::OPEN @(SP)+
::RastaKins (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
PDP-11 architecture ↗ bis
I've undone your most recent edit. Yes, MARK is a miserable instruction. But the paragraph you edited sets out the general nature of processor registers (and the idea of orthogonality). Including the exceptional, non-orthogonal, and rarely-used MARK instruction complicates this introduction, and for little benefit. You describe MARK adequately (and better than I had) when we come to it. In fact, MARK's non-orthogonality is not unique; the non-miserable branch instructions all exclusively use R7, and the trap instructions use R6 and R7. Spike-from-NH (talk) 01:32, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:Good points. The revert was a good move. RastaKins (talk) 03:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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Music genre capitalization
See MOS:GENRECAPS ↗. Dicklyon (talk) 22:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
:Thank you for the MOS. And for the helpful update to article. RastaKins (talk) 23:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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Signal ↗
Re this edit ↗, Signal (electrical engineering) ↗ redirects to Signal ↗ so simpler and better to avoid the pipe. Am I missing something? ~Kvng (talk) 22:24, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
:Thought it needed disambiguation but I was mistaken. RastaKins (talk) 05:15, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
thank you adding z80
for some inexicable reason I thought I'd added the z80, much appreciated the oversight correction. Lkcl (talk) 05:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Letitia James revert
I apologize for my revert here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Letitia_James&diff=prev&oldid=1318571127 ↗. I wasn't paying attention and thought you had removed it from the article body, not the lede. I'm still aligned with the consensus re the lede. Cheers. <small><sub>''signed'', </sub></small>Willondon (talk ↗) 18:12, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for the insight. I thought that's what you intended by your edit note. RastaKins (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
On the EV1
In principle, I agree with your ideas about pictures of the EV1. I'm a Saturn historian, myself, so seeing any change towards reducing visibility of Saturn or Saturn-adjacent products is already against everything I stand for. On the other hand, I see where 750h+ is coming from. We can't add every picture willy-nilly and just making an exception for the EV1 without a good reason could be a poor precedent. I've started a topic on the talk page, and I think we could theorize on a good solution that need not infringe on anyone's view of what the article should or should not be.
Thank you for your work on the EV1 article :) TheSaturnLover (talk) 18:37, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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Future progress
(from MCS-48 discussion but on avoiding this problem in the future) Actually, the process is to leave the article in its original state and agree a change before making, not try to agree the change after making it. But all that aside, it would be good to make progress on as much as possible from this situation and one area is the process of co-operative discussion. I started my last comment to you with "Thanks for your reply and I hope it's part of peaceful, co-operative and constructive discussion. I don't think anyone needs more arguments, nor gets as far as fast with them instead of co-operation." It's a matter of fair record that you didn't reply and make that happen, which is a pity you felt you couldn't. You have also written "Not a personal attack" and I really believe you, so let's get somewhere and hopefully reach trusting agreement we're on the same page trying to do the same thing and happy to talk constructively. You gotta admit you're a bit of a hard one to reach out to :-) Or we could continue writing what are frankly descending into one-upmanship replies and each walk away with a new opponent each, but that seems very wasteful and a bit tragic really. I think you're probably very experienced in professional engineering and I think I am. We clearly both come here to do what we hope is productive and valuable to others. Look forward to your reply on that.ToaneeM (talk) 22:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
:@ToaneeM, the editing experience should be agreeable and fun for all. Indeed, a fun indulgence. Volunteer jobs have to have a reward aspect otherwise it becomes drudgery. I know you must find some reward in your Wiki experiences otherwise you would not have contributed so much for so long.
:Sometimes the experience not positive. After I spent an hour on a good-faith edit, it's not fun to have it reverted. You say, "Actually, the process is to leave the article in its original state and agree a change before making, not try to agree the change after making it." This is exactly opposite of how it works. Contributors are urged to WP:BEBOLD ↗ and research and write new material to create new notable articles and extend existing ones. There are a set of rules, for sure, but if those rules are being adhered to, articles are expected to evolve and the evolution should not be reverted. Wikipedia is a work in progress WP:WIP ↗ and is never completed. It makes no sense for anyone to seek consensus to extend an article. Having a code example in a CPU article is something that has been done for years. The idea that code samples should be removed is a novel initiative. Status quo does not require consensus. Deviation from that might.
:Reverts should be used judiciously. If I encounter a good-faith, but flawed, extension to an article, I will often edit to improve rather than revert so as not to discourage the contributor. This makes it seem more like a collaboration for all.
:ToaneeM, let's keep this a fun indulgence. I am looking forward to more of your contribs in the future.
:PS: It was interesting to hear what systems you worked on. I designed the following chips into commercial products and wrote the code for them, in chronological order: COP400, 8X300, 8049, 8085, 87196, PIC18. Wrote commercially marketed code for PDP-11, 8086, 68000 all written in assembly. Later code was written in C dialects. RastaKins (talk) 01:46, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
Patents in Edwin Howard Armstrong
I saw that you reverted my edit to remove the list of Edwin Howard Armstrong ↗'s patents. Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY ↗, a Wikipedia article should not include lists without context: since each of the inventions and their importance is not explained in article prose (a sentence in the lead is not enough of an explanation), this list for this article would be considered too detailed. Since this article is not a stand-alone list ↗, I do not think WP:LISTCRITERIA ↗ is relevant, but also these patents should probably have their own Wikipedia article in order to be included in this list. If this is to remain in this article (which I don't think it should), all of the external links will need to be removed: external links should only be included in article bodies in rare exceptions, and this list is not one of those exceptions per WP:NOELBODY ↗. I recommend that the list be removed (even if it is mentioned in the article lead) and only the most important patents be mentioned in the article body with their relevance explained. Z1720 (talk) 03:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
:@Z1720, I agree it may be a good idea to move the patents to a separate article sort of like a discography ↗. Some of the text of the main article should probably move there too. A bit of work. In the meantime I made a intermediate fix by moving the patents to "External links" and folded them so they take fewer column inches. What do you think? RastaKins (talk) 00:26, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
Talk post about Microprocessor ↗
This ↗ talk post seemed dismissive to me. You found a flaw in my logic but didn't address my main point about the word "interpreting" adding ambiguity. Also, placing the word "EVERY" in all-caps conveys a yell. Wikipedia:Civility ↗ says to be polite. Timhowardriley (talk) 13:27, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
::@Timhowardriley, I did not intend to be snotty. Sorry about that. I thought we were discussing "microcode" v. "machine code" because that was the text I changed. I agree "interpreting" creates ambiguity. Would "decode" be a better choice? RastaKins (talk) 14:49, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
:::Very good. I think to remove "interpreting and" would force the sentence at the instruction set level. Timhowardriley (talk) 02:00, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
Thanks for revert of performance note
Hello RastaKins,
Apologies and thank you for restoring the performance note on the National Semiconductor SC/MP ↗ article that I had accidentally removed.
Also it's good to see your general contributions in Vintage CPUs. OldCPUs (talk) 19:46, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
SC/MP timing footnote
Hi RastaKins
I have opened a discussion at Talk:National_Semiconductor_SC/MP#Instruction_timing_footnote:_“22_clocks_total”_should_be_qualified_or_replaced ↗ because I think the 11-microcycle figure is sound, but the conversion to “22 clocks total” could be added to.
The issue seems to be that National uses different timing notation for the original SC/MP and the INS8060 / SC/MP II which leads to confusion.
I would appreciate your thoughts on the talk page above.
OldCPUs (talk) 21:04, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Better sources
In regard to your deletion ↗,
You said {{tq|Undid revision 1360316970 by Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) rv good faith edit. WP:OPINION Democracy Now! did not describe the gesture. It was the opinion of Charles R. Davis during a roundtable. Hint: There are better sources out there if you think this detail is important.}}
Hey there, I'm reaching out since I haven't been able to find a better sources than DN and you said there's better sources out there - do you have any pointers/links I could check out to re-add this detail? Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 02:14, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
:@Alexandraaaacs1989, there is a MSNOW article that has more detail, though the interpretation of the picture is by anonymous critics. The picture was taken Chicago. Delaney is in New Jersey. In the 25-year history of Delaney Hall, does this comment on an X post of a picture taken in Chicago warrant inclusion in this article? RastaKins (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
::Oh I see, I was looking for RS specific to the DH Nazi salute since I'm working on a new DH article. Yes I'd say a Trump official with a lengthy Wikipedia article doing a Nazi salute in support of ICE agents at Delaney Hall is notable in DH's 25-year history, especially considering this is the most politically significant moment in DH's history. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
::If we can't attribute the Nazi salute accusation to DN, can we at least attribute it to Charles R. Davis? That seems fully appropriate to me. We've established there's A) a Nazi salute that happened ("''allegedly''"), B) reporting on the Nazi salute in a published source by DN, and C) that the salute was made by a notable source, even if it's not a DN article but instead a published manuscript. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Alexandraaaacs1989, attributing the salute accusation to Charles R. Davis would be accurate. And he's not anonymous. RastaKins (talk) 15:25, 22 June 2026 (UTC)