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Grilled cheese recipe



The source I found at https://archive.org/details/b20392758/page/822/mode/2up doesn't describe cheese being grilled between two slices of toasted bread, but cheese on top of a single slice, which would be cheese on toast ↗ rather than a grilled cheese ↗ sandwich.

If you had a different Mrs Beeton recipe in mind, please be specific about it. Belbury (talk) 11:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:You were looking at the wrong recipe. The recipe is 1641 Sharnadd (talk) 13:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, can you give a link or a title for the recipe that you mean? Belbury (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Its cheese sandwich. You have already provided the link. It's a few pages back on the book link you provided Sharnadd (talk) 03:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you, I see it now! I've added it back to the article and updated the description and reference. Belbury (talk) 08:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Great thanks Sharnadd (talk) 08:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

July 2024



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hi Sharnadd! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor&#32;at :Delicatessen ↗ that may not have been. "Minor edit ↗" has a specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections ↗ or reverting obvious vandalism ↗. Any edit that changes the <em>meaning</em> of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. ''Not a big deal, but something to please keep in mind. Happy editing! :)'' <!-- Template:uw-minor --> CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

:Didn't realise will do thanks Sharnadd (talk) 03:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

December 2024



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello, I'm Sjö. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source ↗. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation ↗ and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners ↗. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-unsourced1 --> Sjö (talk) 09:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:There really isn't a place to add a source when it comes to the origin on lists of foods Sharnadd (talk) 09:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

::Yes, there is. You can add it in the column for origin or in the text column. At a pinch I could accept that the reference is in the target article, but Carrot soup ↗ does not say where it originated. Eaten in some country does not equal originating in that country, so still unsourced. Sjö (talk) 11:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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:You mean correcting the page from a Pullman loaf to a loaf of bread. The reason is that a Pullman loaf is not at all a common name for this type of bread..its and article that lists a sandwich as a British sandwich and we really don't use the amercian type of loaf Sharnadd (talk) 03:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:I have added a citation showing that sandwhichs are made with loafs of bread Sharnadd (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:Have added sources to show that a loaf of bread is used for making a sandwich rather than the local American term Sharnadd (talk) 04:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Food origins



Please don't add "British" or "English" to dishes that are found all over the world. Sjö (talk) 08:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:Do you mean in foods that originated in the UK Sharnadd (talk) 09:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:They were already listed as originating in the UK just adding to skirt description so they are listed in links correctly. If you believe that they are from elsewhere then feel free to add citations. If their a problem with listing a well known greek dish as coming from greece Sharnadd (talk) 09:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::These foods not only exist in one country and the origins are often contested, unsourced or unclear which means that you add unsourced information. The short description was removed per my edit comment, see WP:Short descriptions ↗. Sjö (talk) 09:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::There are already citations on the page for spanakopita describing it as Greece. So you don't mind the detailed description of the pie being called a greek pie but you don't want it in a short description. There are not unsourced. The sources are citations on the main page Sharnadd (talk) 09:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes. My revert in Savory spinach pie was because the addition was misplaced, not because it lacked sources. I said so in my edit comment. Sjö (talk) 11:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::It was in the correct place under that particular pie to have it shown in annotated links Sharnadd (talk) 13:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::No, annotated links do not work like that. Annotated links will apparently take the last short description in the article. I restored the short description temporarily and this is what an annotated link looks like now: Savory spinach pie ↗ – Greek spinach pie . As you can see, the annotated link has incorrect information since not all savory spinach pies are Greek. Sjö (talk) 07:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::thanks when I put it on the spanakopita it was just appearing to link to that particularpie Sharnadd (talk) 08:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

3rd opinion request



Hello!
I have fixed the WP:3O ↗ request you made. You forgot to add a preceding # and you added the request to the wrong place. All that is left to do is for you to add a date by signing the post with 5 tildes <nowiki>(~~~~~)</nowiki>. You can read more about submitting requests on the 3O page. <span style="background:#000;color:#FFF;"><em><b>TurboSuperA+</b></em></span><sub>(connect)</sub> 08:09, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:will do thanks for the help Sharnadd (talk) 10:11, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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Chicken tikka masala



I have corrected the format of the category you added ~ it is necessary to use the structure <nowiki>Category:A particular category ↗</nowiki> when adding one. There is an excellent tool called HotCat ↗ which you may wish to look at as it makes editing categories a breeze ~ i don't often mess with them, but when i do i always use HotCat because it is so easy ~ '''Lindsay'''<sup>'''H ↗'''ello ↗</sup> 07:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:thank you I will have a look at it Sharnadd (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

English cuisine



Hi, sorry to have to revert you but the edit unbalanced the section. The purpose of the section is to discuss changes in English cuisine, not to introduce individual commentators and their books. I was considering whether to remove the mention of Spencer altogether; he is not a major influence comparable with Elizabeth David or even Heston Blumenthal, so I think we have been going wrong there. I'll edit the sentence now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:09, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

:Thinking about this, not only is Spencer not personally an influence, but we've already discussed wartime rationing in detail, so that must not be repeated; and the Enclosure acts and the Industrial Revolution from the 1700s onwards were followed by the flowering of Victorian and Edwardian cuisine, not a decline, so there seems to be something wrong in the timing or logic. The section already covers the major and undisputed points about quality, and the Spencer material was taking the section in some wrong directions, so I've removed it as misleading and unbalancing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:17, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks that seems fair I added about the rejuvenation to make it less one sided with the information about the decline that had been put on but it doesn't seem to be the correct place for the information at all Sharnadd (talk) 05:46, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

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Uncited information


Please do not add uncited information to articles, particularly when they are Featured Articles ↗, as you did here ↗. '''All''' additions need to be cited. - SchroCat (talk) 08:19, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

:Thought it was already cities from the bookmaikl.add and article Sharnadd (talk) 10:26, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
::Do not edit war to try and force back uncited information. Per WP:BRD ↗ and WP:STATUSQUO ↗ use the talk page to discuss any changes. - SchroCat (talk) 10:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
:::you.removed.something rather than added citation. Needed and I have added the citation requested that isn't edit warring Sharnadd (talk) 10:31, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
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:i.didnt insert original research I returned the article to what it had been in the past as someone removed the name of a recipe as they misread the ingredients Sharnadd (talk) 10:36, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
::Okay, your edit summaries didn't make that clear, it read as if you were adding this interpretation for the first time. I've replied on the article talk page about the Mornay sauce question. Belbury (talk) 11:45, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks I should have been clearer.kt.was.a.revert Sharnadd (talk) 11:49, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Found where the information came from that I put back in and it was added in 2012 and just removed as someone felt the recipe with cream butter and flour didn't contain flour . I do feel.bechamel is appropriate as bechamel was made with cream early on in.its creation but I have left if to see if anyone else replies Sharnadd (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

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Please take a look at BRD ↗. You’re misunderstanding the order, which is that, on having made a Bold change, and having been reverted, the onus is on you to raise the issue on the Talkpage and seek consensus for the change you want to make. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 09:09, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

:i will add the question to the talk page thanks Sharnadd (talk) 09:28, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

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May I offer you some friendly words of advice apropos of your repeated attempts to alter the text of the Featured Article on Elizabeth David ↗? First, please do not violate Wikipedia's policy WP:CITEVAR ↗ as you attempted to do. Secondly, please abide by Wikipedia's manual of style at WP:QUOTE ↗. Thirdly, please consider that the views of two main editors plus eighteen reviewers at PR, GAN and FAC could conceivably outweigh your personal preferences. Fourthly, please see the current edition of Fowler ↗ on the use of "due to" as a compound preposition in formal BrE, and fifthly, and most importantly, please always read the main text of the article ''carefully''<nowiki> before making free with the wording of the lead. I hope this helps. ~~~~</nowiki> '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></span>''' 18:36, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

:I reverted as the person said it was summarised better before. However before it showed incorrect information.
:I read the quotations and believed I had abided by them. I don't have a personal preference. You asked that I read the sources quote I obtained the books, read them and discovered that it states in those books that she didn't take up writing for magazines due to the UK having bad food but due to her needing money. The main body of text I am assuming you are refering to is where it describes the poor food provided but the hotel. With quote 65. However , in her authorised biography it states that she began writing for magazines due to financial difficulties not due to the bad food she was served. That was why she wrote the recipes awhich were later turned into a book but not the reason she wrote for magazines.. so currently the lead is inaccurate Sharnadd (talk) 19:00, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::I must respect your interpretation of the cited sources, but I think it is wrong: Mrs David's verbatim quote is clear beyond dispute. And I hope you will take due notice of the first, second, third and fourth points above and will find them helpful for your future editing. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></span>''' 19:06, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::the verbatim quote though is not referring to the matter at hand, which is why she started writing for magazines. That is the part of the lead that is being questioned. Her quote is in regards as to why she started to write down her recipes which is fine. It is however being associated in the lead as to why she started to write for magazines 2 years later. That is not correct. She does not state that in her quote and in her authorised biography it gives a different reason Sharnadd (talk) 19:14, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Noted. I repeat that I hope you will take due notice of the first, second, third and fourth points above and will find them helpful for your future editing. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></span>''' 19:40, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::thank you I will and will see if I can add to the talk page to try and get a consensus as suggested Sharnadd (talk) 22:05, 22 June 2026 (UTC)