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If you look at our church ↗, you see three recent pics, on top of a concert that Franz Josef Hamm ↗ arranged for his 90th birthday (and invited everybody), a new one of our conductor, and at the bottom us taking standing ovations (but that conductor still at the keyboard). The other conductor and the organist have an article. The music, Forrest's Jubilate Deo ↗, is quite breathtaking, and the organist (my choral conductor for decades) said we were better than what he had heard on the internet. No youtube upcoming, though, copyright ... - but still on my mind, two days after the second round! - The conductor's pic has a silly mistake in its title, - can you perhaps move it? I stood next to one of his three daughters this time, not his wife as for the 2023 concert. She has a baby girl, and was afraid baby would not let her go, but baby was fine with it. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
: I corrected this filename: :File:St. Martin, Idstein, Franz Fink addressing choirs before ecumenical concert Jubilate Deo.jpg ↗. Is that the right one? Storye book (talk) 06:49, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:: yes! thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:: Günther Rühle ↗ pic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
::: Rühle done. Storye book (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::: Thank you! Brich dem Hungrigen dein Brot, BWV 39 ↗, is my story today: listen! - I returned from a festivity with a great vocal ensemble (in concert and service) and a new song by the birthday child, premiered by the congregation, - see music! - Walter Hagen-Groll ↗ pic? Can we have the one in the last external link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
::::: Hagen-Groll done. Storye book (talk) 06:38, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you, excellent! - Jürgen Kesting ↗ pic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::: Kesting done. Nice, professional picture! A very satisfactory one, I think. Storye book (talk) 18:25, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::: I agree. I read a review today, beginning with what Kesting said, and wonder if the reviewer already knew that he had died. Quite an authority, and looking it. Talking about reviews: the header of the one for our last concert is ''Klangzauber'' - sound magic. The rest is pay-walled, but I've seen it and will add from it to the article about the piece when I find more time. Going for DYK now ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::: Ute Walther ↗ pic? There's a youtube of her as Octavian, 1st act (tv), but I haven's seen a pic not in a role yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::: Walther done. I agree, there is no good picture of her offstage face out there, but this one in stage makeup is so beautiful, I couldn't resist it. What do you think? Storye book (talk) 09:58, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::: I agree fully! Thank you! - If you have time for one more: Mordecai Bauman ↗ is a singer on the main page now (not by me). Came as a surprise because they are running two sets again, - I noticed the discussion but missed that it began today. Pleasantly busy, - will update music next. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::: Bauman done. I could only find one picture, and it's not very clear. Let me know if there is a better one. Run out of time, will do the alt later, unless someone else does it. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 06:44, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::: Thank you for the find, - I didn't even have time to look, and now he's off the main page. The pic has character! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::: Glad it's acceptable. It's nice to have pics of singers while performing, sometimes. Storye book (talk) 10:39, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
{{od}} William Lloyd Webber ↗ pic? - Would you perhaps nominate Walther for DYK? I can provide 2 qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

She is on the main page now, and I made her my story, about a woman on the height of her career, naming the title role she excelled in (with video) and the magnificent house (pictured) on a specific occasion, - and then leaving all that for decades of a different life at a free place. Makes me smile that this happens on the former day of German unity ↗. What of it do you think could be made visible on DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
: Webber done. I'm not sure what you are asking me to do about DYK? Which DYK nom? If it is about when the Berlin Wall came down, I remember that day. My ex and I were on a dive boat in the Mediterranean, with an international group including two young West German men, aged around twenty. They did not know it had happened, and when we told them, they were astonished, and did not know what to say. They were pleasant and intelligent young men, and when they spoke German they sounded elegant and aristocratic to us. The rest of us were happy because it meant peace and friendship to us. I hope the young men were happy when they realised that all was safe for them. Storye book (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
:: Thank you, nice Webber pic - could perhaps even be free, by its age. I asked you to nominate her for DYK. My idea for a hook would be an excerpt from the story, because ... - not that she was some opera singer who loved her dog ;) - What do you think? Her height in the East was 1985, so four years before the fall of the wall. The young folks running DYK have no memory of a divided Germany = Europe, - they will not immediately understand how interesting that was. The opera premiered in the house, which makes it extra interesting for those who know a bit (but is not about her). Her performance there alone is interesting, but the move to the West adds drama. Only I'm the wrong person to tell DYK ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
:: I nominated a different (due) DYK (2 qpq, and they are hard to find now), and will be out for hours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
::: I'm really sorry, I don't think I can nominate a DYK right now. I shall be on a wikibreak from tomorrow so I shall not be able to curate the nom, and when I come back it may be too late to start the nomination. Storye book (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
:::: Nevermind, I nominated and did one review, then fell asleep without telling you, now did the other review but still didn't get to telling you until I saw this on my watchlist. Enjoy your time off! I love my story today - a 2011 hook about centuries of culture and a shock. What would they make of it today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
:::: In case you have a bit of time during vacation: Wulf Herzogenrath ↗ pic? The one in the obit looks fine to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
::::: Herzogenrath done. Apologies for the delay. Is this the one you wanted? Storye book (talk) 08:58, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::: yes, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::: Could you perhaps help me to the {https://www.bach-digital.de/receive/BachDigitalSource_source_00000978 first page of No. 2] from BWV 49 ↗? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::: Sorry, no time this morning. Will try to look at it later today. Storye book (talk) 06:46, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::: No rush at all. I came for Peter Janssens ↗ - pic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::: Janssen done. I could only find one blurry picture - but there are other men of the same name. Is this him? I haven't got time for the Bach picture today, sorry you have had to wait. There is some hassle going on, here. I'll try to do it tomorrow. Storye book (talk) 10:43, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - June 2026

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: Done. System still indicates an error, but there is none. Storye book (talk) 07:52, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

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Edit warring, personal attacks, OWN

As mentioned on Talk:John Turner (miser) ↗, you have edit warred and made personal attacks to preserve language that is contradictory to Wikipedia's policies and MOS for describing subjects in Wikivoice. This is clearly OWN ↗ behavior. Since the beginning of the year, you have reverted six separate editors making the relevant corrections six times: {{diff2|1336533042|4 February}}, {{diff2|1346160031|30 March}}, {{diff2|1356515691|28 May}}, {{diff2|1359282658|14 June}}, {{diff2|1361194852|26 June}}, and {{diff2|1361339113|27 June}}. You have make baseless accusations that other editors don't understand British English (edit summary ↗), were {{tq|lying}} (edit summary ↗), described good-faith changes as {{tq|unthinking editing}} (edit summary ↗), and accused editors of not reading citations (diff ↗). You also misused generic rollback to edit war (diff ↗) and have cited not Wikipedia policy but an 1861 novel to support the tone you keep adding to this article. Indications of this ownership behavior extend far further back, with you in 2024 refusing bot access to the page to {{tq|maintain my access to subscription sources}} (edit summary ↗) and insisting that any removal of a non-MOS piece of content had to be discussed with you first (edit summary ↗). At ANI, I doubt there would be any opposition to you being blocked from editing page. I'm doing you a courtesy by not taking this there. Return that courtesy by '''stopping this behavior immediately'''. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:22, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

: (Copied here from the talk page of John Turner (miser) ↗). As of this moment, I have only reverted your edit once. You, however, have reverted my edit twice in 24 hours and 8 minutes. Your threatening behaviour will not get you anywhere. Your above message is intimidatory and unnecessary. That is why you were not able to bring your accusations to ANI. You cannot take it to ANI because my responses on the article talk page have been constructive and well-intentioned, in order to improve understanding of the article. If you are calling my long and careful explanations "rhetoric", then the problem is yours. And there is a difference between OWNing and explaining. Those explanations were well-intentioned, and intended to help you understand the article. I suggest that you put your feet up, have a coffee, and read them again in a calmer atmosphere.

: The reason why readers have not read the citations in the article is that it costs around £90 per year now to subscribe to the British Newspaper Archive, and one cannot ask or expect the average WP editor to do that, especially if they are in another country and might have no further use for it. The recent history book, which is entirely about Turner and used for citations in the article, is unlikely to have been easily available to libraries in other countries, being mainly of interest to British residents, so again one would not expect many WP editors to have read it, and certainly not in full. Our editors are not neglectful; most of them probably don't have access to those types of citation. Their problem is that they have responded to WP requests to play down strong or opinionated language, which is fair enough, but they have made assumptions that Turner was an ordinary person with ordinary behaviours, and that is not the case. They tried to convert some rather distressing true facts about Turner into something anodyne, which made him look like an everyday, plodding worker - which he was not. He was a man with extreme and unexplained behaviours which were remarked upon by his contemporaries. One can surmise that he was driven by some extreme anxiety, because extreme behaviour demands explanation and anxiety would fit, but we cannot write that in the article. The article sets out the fact of his extreme or eccentric behaviours with appropriate citations, but those editors that you are defending have changed facts without recourse to citations. What they should have done was to have asked for further quotations on the talk page. If they had asked, I could also have uploaded screenshots of out-of-copyright newspaper cuttings, so that they could read those citations for themselves. The previous wording of the header was fact, not opinion or hyperbole. If a reader/editor cannot accept in good faith the cited facts in an article, when the citations are not easily available to them, they should ask for quotations and/or screenshots where appropriate.

: There are, however, plenty of British WP editors who can check out and verify for WP the facts via the British Newspaper Archive and other sources. For Americans, Gale can possibly find at least some of the newspaper citations for free. I am currently working on a further constructive response by developing a rewrite of at least part of the article by revisiting the sources and providing more quotations. Please do not confuse matters by referring to my mention on the talk page of Eliot's novel, which was on my part an explanation of Victorian attitudes during Turner's era, written on as part of the process of improving the article. There is no mention of the novel in the article, because Eliot does not mention Turner, therefore no rules have been broken. My use of it was only to help you understand the article's historical background, in respect of Victorian attitudes to the miser mythology. Storye book (talk) 07:18, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

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: The image has been replaced in the article, so this one can be deleted. Storye book (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :File:Heinz Kluetmeier sports photographer (1b).jpg ↗

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: Delete. Getty is an issue. Storye book (talk) 06:40, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

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Nomination of :John Turner (miser) ↗ for deletion

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: I replied. Storye book (talk) 13:00, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

DYK for Edgar J. March

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* {{cite news |author=Abbott, Stephen title=The story of a Starbeck miser |date=16 July 2004 |url=https://www-britishnewspaperarchive-co-uk.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/viewer/bl/0005146/20040716/157/0014 |url-access=subscription |access-date=30 June 2026 |work=Harrogate Advertiser and Weekly List of the Visitors |page=14 cols 1-3 |via=British Newspaper Archive}}

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: Done. Storye book (talk) 10:36, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - July 2026

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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WikiProject Yorkshire ↗ has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 21,830 last month to 21,946 on 29 June 2026). In the area of GAs WikiProject Yorkshire ↗ at 249 is ahead of WikiProject Greater Manchester ↗ who have 89. WikiProject Yorkshire ↗ also has the lead in FAs at 101 while WikiProject Greater Manchester ↗ has 66 out of a total number of 5,911 articles.

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July music

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Thomas Fey ↗ pic? Sad story how music ended for him (haven't touched the article yet, - Dunn made it to the main page, from a copyvio article without a single link to an opera, - writing from scratch would have been easier ...). - I like him at work ↗, but he isn't facing the viewer. Many offered for just the name. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
: Fey done. I agree, that's a nice picture. Storye book (talk) 18:33, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

On Edgar James March's WikiPage

Thank you @Storye book for making this page ↗!

I have been looking forward to seeing March's history organised in one place for a while, looking around the internet finding scattered information was difficult and time-consuming. He has become some-what of an idol for me after reading his impressive work's (''Sailing Trawlers'', ''Sailing Drifters'', etc.).

A shipwright and former owner of the Sailing Trawler ''Deodar'' BM-313 (Brixham) gave me the idea to buy a copy of March's works after his long talks on how invaluable those books have been for helping him restore ''Deodar'' to working order. The trawler continues to float lively at Isegran in Fredrickstad, Norway; previously having it's berth in Stockholm, Sweden before change in onwnership.

I went to a traditional wooden boat-building course at a cummunity colleage in Sweden in pursuit of understanding maritime craft and culture. What I learnt and experienced there reminded me of feelings and imaginations I had reading March's recollection of an old trawlerman's description of the old shipyards: "In the old days there was always laughter when the men were working [...]" — I remember laughing at the boat-shop almost every day, singing or whistling a tune with the others, or telling a bad joke. There was so much more, but that is beyond the scope of this message.

I plan to go on a trip to London, specifically Greenwich's National Maritime Museum to look at Edgar James March's legacy collection. You may have already looked through them? Also, those 15,000 magic lantern slides seem like an alluring adventure waiting to start.

Again, I want to thank you greatly for writing this page in so much detail. I aspire to write stories about people and places like you and March do one day. I am still in my youth, however, so there will be time for that, I'm sure.

Additionally, I saw some possible typos after reading the page. I would have edited them myself if I had more confidence to use Wikipedia's editing tools:

"March told of many ways of dong the work... ↗"

"...officers <u>n</u> the navy. ↗"

P.S. I realised that I can only link the highlighted text if I say the link is 'external', ortherwise it replaces spaces with underscores and then won't be able to find the text. (programming bug) TrawlerWrightGuy (talk) 21:22, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

: Thank you so much, {{u|TrawlerWrightGuy}}, for your message. (I have corrected the typos!) Your words are very much appreciated, and it means a lot. The research for the March biography did take a lot of work - the most difficult bit being the identification of his mother Lissie Barr. That's why the notes show a number of ways of identifying her, which all fit together and fit March's background history. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, one's background meant everything. If you met someone new, they tended to want to know who your parents were, because that helped them to know your class status, understand you, and trust you. March was "decent working class", and that set was bettering itself by hard work and self-education. March certainly personifies that. And he was extremely lucky as a researcher who needed funding, since he was helping his father run the hotel, then inherited it.

: Like you, I have a background in and on the sea. My parents were descended from sailors in the Royal Navy, and from a deep-sea fishing tradition going back at least to the 18th century. I did not fish, but was a volunteer SCUBA diving instructor in the 80s and 90s, and a dive coxswain running a dive rescue boat. My boat was named "Fly" after my 2 x great grandfather's gaff cutter well smack ↗ called Fly (which in those days meant "go fast") out of Barking ↗ (then a fishing village). My grandfather's generation trawled with long lines baited with whelks etc., from spring to autumn for prime fish (expensive bottom fish like cod and turbot) from Iceland to the North Sea. So yes, March is very much a hero in the UK, for all those thousands of coastal people who are descended from fishermen and want to know their heritage.

: If you come to the UK, try to go to Scotland and its Scottish Fisheries Museum ↗ in Anstruther ↗. Its website is: Scottish Fisheries Museum ↗. You are lucky to be going to Greenwich to see March's legacy collection. So far I have seen no evidence that they have the 15,000 magic lantern slides. Do you know something I don't? That would be marvellous if it's at Greenwich.

: And that reminds me. There are no proper photographs or films of any identifiable well smacks (with hatch, augur holes etc) as far as I know. In the 90s I contacted the consul in the Faroes ↗, where the last well smacks ended up, and where the last ones had sunk by 1920 – and where a few of the last well smack fishermen were still alive. But he found no photos for me. I have so far heard of no archaeological evidence of extant well smack shipwrecks. But I do remember many years ago seeing a very old black and white film clip of a well smack at sea, and men in oilskins pricking the gall bladders of prime fish (to stop them floating) and throwing them back, alive, into the well. I have since tried to trace the film, but cannot. Perhaps the film came from the Faroes or Scandinavia? Thank you again for all that you have told me. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2026 (UTC)