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Hey, welcome, and thank you for your recent contributions to China-related articles on Wikipedia! Take a look at the section of the Manual of Style ↗ related to Chinese-language text and China-related articles, and consider taking a look at Wikiproject China ↗, where you can often talk to other contributors on the subject. Cheers!

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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Dong Yuhui ↗ (December 18)


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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Dong Yuhui ↗ (December 30)


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Hey! You're doing great work on Su Shi ↗ etc. Here are a few things I've noticed from your recent edits:
Cheers! <span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span><span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">留</span> 06:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:Appreciate the comments! I'll work on that in the next few weeks. TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::You're awesome! Happy editing.<span id="Remsense:1706310808163:User_talkFTTCLNTheIntrospectorsfacts" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span><span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span> 23:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::User:TheIntrospectorsfacts, I'm just going to add that you do have good editorial skills (based on a brief review of your contributions to "Chinese Mythology"). Also, just now looking at your Talk page -- in terms of creating articles relating to China (at least), I suggest just to create the article. Going through the Articles for Creation is unnecessary, and China related articles tend to be deprecated. I looked at your Dong Dong Yuhui draft: for a Start class article I do not see fault. Me, being completely clueless about Dong Yuhui (which is the point of having encyclopedic articles -- to be able to look stuff up), I did a quick search: yahoo!finance has an article Meet China's new live-streaming e-commerce star: an English-language tutor who lost his off-campus teaching job ↗. An e-commerce star! Wikipedia is worse off without an article about:

:::"China's unlikely new live-streaming e-commerce star is 29-year-old Dong Yuhui, an erudite, former off-campus English-language tutor who now pitches a range of goods online, from books and cooking pans to steaks, shrimp and everyday groceries."

:::This is not my personal area of interest, but I would like to be able to look up information on Chinese e-commerce stars that invokes such "purple prose" praise from yahoo!finance -- in case myself or someone else becomes interested. As much as I am a fan of older, white, european-ancestry males and acknowledge the many encyclopedic notabilities, en.Wikipedia cannot be said to be without systemic bias.

:::Also, I suggest that you create your User page, so that you look more of a part of Wikipedia, at least enough so that your User name is not always in red.

:::Anyway, do as you wish. Cheers and happy editing!

:::And, if you do just post up the article, bypassing Articles for Creation, remember to blame

:::Dcattell (talk) 22:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the feedback. It's encouraging and informative to hear from peers. I threw in the Dong Yuhui page in as a test-water experiment. However, I disapproved my own submission after going through Wiki rules and after reading samples of featured articles. I shift back to edit existing articles on China which are abundant and will keep me occupied and engaged for the time being.:) TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::::I have revamped the page Dong Yuhui ↗ by trimming down unnecessary details and removing peacock words. Would you please take a look and provide feedback on this version. TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 20:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Your article Dong Yuhui ↗ moved to draftspace


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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Dong Yuhui ↗ (March 16)


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:I m glad you enjoyed the reading, I enjoyed researching on the topic and writing it up just as much:) TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

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25px|alt=Warning icon ↗ Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy ↗ by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at :Persecution of Falun Gong ↗, you may be blocked from editing ↗. <!-- Template:uw-npov3 --> Binksternet (talk) 02:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

:In accordance with WP:RS ↗, my edits are supported by several scholarly sources dedicated to the Falun Gong topic based on field work and research, these sources are well acknowledged and frequently cited in the academic circle. {{tq| When available, academic and peer-reviewed publications, scholarly monographs, and textbooks are usually the most reliable sources.|q=yes}}WP:SOURCETYPES ↗
:My edits are all verifiable following WP:V ↗ through clear inline citations. None of my additions is my personal analysis or commentary.
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:The scholarly sources I added offer a more balanced and nuanced perspective on this complex topic than the oversimplified NBC quote. Removing them ↗ would violate WP:NPOV ↗. TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 01:16, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

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You recent removal of sourced material from the Falun Gong article regarding their anti-med positions is non-neutral. I see this is not the first time you have been cautioned about non-neutral edits surrounding this new religious movement. Please remember that Falun Gong is a contentious topic and non-neutral editing is discouraged. Simonm223 (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

:When editing contentious topics, my approach is to focus on fact checking, source verification, and policy based assessment within the article' s Talk space. I would happily engage with fellow editors on productive discussions who adopt the same approach. TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 13:35, 13 March 2026 (UTC)