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Great work on the Innocenzo Cybo ↗ article so far! I hope you'll stay around and keep contributing. May I suggest that you nominated the Cybo article to appear in the "Did You Know?" column on the main page T:TDYK ↗? Savidan 17:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


Great Work!



Vicedomino,
I just assessed your work on the Alessandro Farnese ↗ page per your request, and I am impressed by the work you put in. If you'd like to take the article further, I suggest putting it up for a WP:Peer Review ↗ and then possibly taking it in for a WP:Good Article ↗. Well done! 1bandsaw (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


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Bentivenga da Bentivengi ↗



Hi. I've noticed that you've changed the date of death of Cardinal Bentivenga on the basis of the alleged participation in the General Chapter of Friars Minor in June 1289. However, as far as I see, this account goes back to 16th century Mariano da Firenze, the author not particularly reliable and - in any case - not a contemporary one. At least Wadding cites only Mariano. However, please note that there exists, on the contrary, a contemporary source that confirm Bentivenga was already dead by 29 April 1289. On that day Pope Nicholas IV appointed Berardo da Todi OFM as administrator of the vacated see of Albano, see: Ernest Langlois, ''Les Registres de Nicholas IV'', p. 977 no. 7225; cf. Eubel, p. 35 n. 3 (Albano). I think that the account of Mariano is simply inaccurate and should be dismissed. At least, it seems not sufficient to put in question the date of death given by Ughelli. Cordially CarlosPn (talk) 19:27, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

I commented on your concern for overtagging on my talk page. I am not convinced that it is a significant problem. I am hoping it prods the area towards further coverage.Rococo1700 (talk) 05:11, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Review of Robert Lansing (actor) ↗


Thank you for the quick review of the article on Robert Lansing ↗. I think you also need to delete my user sig from the assessment list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment ↗. Thanks again! <span style="color:Blue; text-shadow:Grey 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">NotaBene</span> <sup><span style="color:Blue; text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">Talk</span></sup> 18:37, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Caravaggio as Baroque


I hope this is not a big disagreement. I altered your entry for Sant'Agostino in Rome.
However, SJ Freedberg's Pelican History of Art review of "Renaissance art" ends at 1600, while Wittkower classic survey of Italian Baroque art and architecture starts in 1600. The latter covers Caravaggio, the former does not. This alone should qualify for this assertion. If you wish I can find other standard opinions, as I said on the talk page, classification can be arbitrary, but there is a general sense that painting styles changed with Caravaggio and the Caracci, and that this was part of a new trend, even though each of these artists would not have necessarily seen themselves as revolutionary or a break with the past.
Rococo1700 (talk) 18:37, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Notability of bishops and the use of Catholic-hierarchy.org



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Porto e S. Rufina



Hi. The source for the real date of Estouteville's appointment is H. Denifle-E. Chatelain, Chartularium Universitatis Parisiensis, IV, Paris 1898, pp. 713-734. Please note, that Piccolomini/Pius II in his ''commentarii'' explicitly says that in the conclave of 1458 d'Estouteville was still a cardinal priesthttp://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/1458_Commentarii.html ↗. Also the bull of appointment of Rodrigo Borgia as cardinal, dated 20 February 1456, was signed by him as cardinal priest of Ss. Silvestro e Martino (the bull was printed by Ludwig von Pastor in the volume about Callixtus III of his ''History of the Popes'') CarlosPn (talk) 08:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
:For d'Estouteville birth date, again the source is Denifle/Chatelain, p. XXII-XXIII. It is based on document dated November 1428, where Guillaume d'Estouteville is mentioned as being 16 years old. Denifle/Chatelain accepted this with some reservation, but surely the document of 1428 is much better source than 17th-century inscription with at least one serious error. Besides, it's much easier to imagine that one takes as 80-years old man someone who is actually only 70, than one takes 25-years old man as 16-years old boy. CarlosPn (talk) 21:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
:And what about Porto-Santa Rufina? Actually, in 15th century there are several instances of longer vacancies in the suburbicarian sees. When Pope Martin V died in 1431, as many as four were vacant, including Ostia e Velletri with no incumbent for almost five years! Regarding Eubel, many of his dates, esp. in the first two volumes, are clearly wrong, but are still repeated on the basis of his authority. I've observed that many such dates were estabslished by him on the simple presumption: if cardinal A died in April 1396 and we know that cardinal B was his successor in his title, then the promotion of B to that title should be dated to April/May 1396 (immediately after the death or promotion of the former). But this is often incorrect and can be easy verified with sources which were available already when Eubel compiled his Hierarchia Catholica. Here is the list of examples of such errors, by no means exhaustive:

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Your editing



I notice you are putting a lot of information on individual bishops in footnotes in the diocese articles. Bishops are basically notable by definition. You could create articles. Srnec (talk) 01:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Council of Perpignan



Thank you for editing the Council of Perpignan ↗-article! All the best,Jeff5102 (talk) 08:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion of Alex Zhavoronkov ↗ page


Dear Vicedomino, can you please take a look at the Alex Zhavoronkov ↗ page nominated for deletion?
Can you please spend another minute looking at the publications - the author is the correspondent author on most. The call to delete the page was made by the editor, who is anti-blockchain following the publication of a research paper on blockchain technology.
::Blockchain technology makes no difference to me. It's not a criterion for notability.

Hi!



I see that you are very active. Could you please help me with this ↗? Thank you! --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 14:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
::Awesome, thanks for your answer and work. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 20:12, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Moving Isabella of Aragon



Hello, I would appreciate your opinion on Talk:Isabella of Aragon, Duchess of Milan ↗. Thank you David (talk) 23:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


Boniface VIII



Please familiarize yourself with the policy around removing tags, which includes {{tq|Any editor without a conflict of interest who sees a tag, but does not see the purported problem with the article ''and'' does not see any detailed complaint on the talk page, may remove the tag}}. The removal of the tag was perfectly valid, because while the lede is brief, it does offer passing mention to the main historical points of Boniface's papacy. If you believe the lede doesn't summarize the article enough, I'm not going to edit war to remove the tag, but saying the removal reason was inadequate is rubbish. It's also goofy to insist on restoring a ''two-year-old'' tag for lede expansion instead of just expanding it, but whatever. Grandpallama (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Diocese of Tortona


In response to your message on my talk page:
#You have undone a number of entirely proper corrections and additions: you were wrong to do so, and should replace them. On your two specific points, for which you have reverted the whole of a much wider edit:
##In English, surely "dignities"/"dignitaries" are synonyms in the specific sense of cathedral chapter officials, and "dignitaries" is more easily understood, but I won't argue with you about it. If you can source it, however, you could usefully add the term to the article on :Cathedral chapter ↗s, where it is not to be found as yet.
##Your assertion about the difference between "canon" and "Canon" is simply wrong: English does not distinguish meanings by the use of capitalisation in this way. The use of capitals throughout the article needs improvement, but I won't waste any more time on it.
#NB :WP:BITE ↗, if you please! I have not even had a welcome message yet!<br>
SpitintheWind (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

DIGNITY / Dignitaries




Ad perpetuam rei memoriam:

DIGNITY / DIGNITARY:

{{cite book|author=Thomas Potts|editor= T. H. Horne|title=A Compendious Law Dictionary|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=JEpfAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA85|edition=New revised, corrected|year=1813|publisher=B. & R. Crosby|location=London|page=207}}

DIGNITY, signifies honour and authority, &c., and may be divided into superior and inferior: as the titles of duke, earl, viscount, baron, &c. are the highest names of ''dignity''; and those of baronet, knight, esquire, &c. are the lowest order. ...

DIGNITY ECCLESIASTICAL, ecclesiastical dignities, are those of archbishop, bishop, dean, archdeacon, and prebendary, and the possessor of these dignities are called ''dignitaries.

--Vicedomino (talk) 02:16, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

A view of the origin of canons




{{cite book|author1=Mildred Anna Rosalie Tuker|author2=Hope Malleson|title=Handbook to Christian and Ecclesiastical Rome|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DYhoAAAAMAAJ|volume=Parts III and IV|year=1900|publisher=Macmillan|location=London and New York}}

p. 203: A list of persons entitled to a fixed allowance from the common ecclesiastical fund was kept from the first by the Christian Church; this list was called the matricula. It included the clergy of both sexes, the consecrated Virgins, the old, widowed and poor. The recipients were called Canonici or Matricularii. Thus “canons” is one of the oldest of the terms applied to the clergy, signifying all clerks, presbyters, deacons, deaconesses, lectors, cantors, receiving a fixed allowance.* To be ''in the Canon'' in time designated legitimate clergy, and was a term precisely equivalent to our present use of the word canonical.

pp. 207-208: The Canons Regular of the Lateran are the most ancient Community of canons now extant. In 440 Leo I. ordered Gelasius, afterwards pope, and the friend of Augustine, to cause the Lateran clergy to live according to the Rule which had been prescribed by the latter at Hippo. The disorders of the Roman clergy of this epoch are known to us through the letters of Jerome. In 1061 these Regular clerks or canons needed reform, and Alexander II. brought to Rome for the purpose a canon of S. Frediano of Lucca, of which Chapter he was himself a member.” The Lateran was declared to
be the head and chief of its many dependent houses, at a Council held two years later; and all the canons of these houses were to be styled Lateran Canons.

p: 212: Canons keep their name and surname like secular priests. Originally all canons were ruled by Priors, but at the present day two out of the three Congregations — namely, those of the Lateran and Prémontré — are governed by an Abbat-General, with abbats over the different houses. They wear pontifical vestments at the great ceremonials. Canonesses are ruled by a Prioress and have no Generals or Provincials. The Lateran Canons (Canonici Lateranensi) have
their Procura at S. Pietro in Vincoli, and their chef-lieu in the Macao, Via S. Martino 12 ; they also have the basilica of S. Agnese Fuori.” The Canonesses (Rocchettine) are established at the historic church of S. Pudenziana (Via Agostino Depretis 80--Vicedomino (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)).


A question



Hi. I noticed you removed a set of "Citation needed" tags at Cardinal Richelieu ↗. Would you be willing to share your reasoning, to help me learn? I'm not questioning your actions, which is why I haven't brought it up on the articles talk page. My guess would be that the editor simply tagged statements and started no discussion about the objections on the talk page. This sort of "drive by tagging" does irk me. Is it as simple as that? Or is it something else? Thanks---- Work permit (talk) 03:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


Septizodium ↗


Hello, I admire your work. I wanted to let you know that the Septizodium ↗ page still references that conclaves took place there, but as pointed out in several places and here too ↗, it is unclear whether the conclaves took place in the Septizodium ↗ or in the church of Santa Lucia in Septisolio ↗. Since you're an expert, could you take a look at it? Maybe correct it and add information about the dispute?--Eccekevin (talk) 06:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

::This is an old mistake, sanctioned by repetition after repetition without looking at evidence or archaeological facts. Meetings could not take place IN the Septizodium, because it had no rooms. It was a three-story high fountain. See: ''The New Topographical Dictionary of Ancient Rome'' (Baltimore 1992, pp. 349-350): "It was actually no more or less that what appears from the plans and drawings that survive, a scaenae frons intended as a frame for a program of statuary, probably portraits of the imperial family. Thre is no sign of water, and though the architectures of nymphaea and scaenae frontes were always closely related and crossed boundaries with each other, it seems unlikely that water was ever intended to be introduced. Rather we should think of this as complete in itself.... What was left in the sixteenth century was a building of three storeys, progressively diminishing in height like a scaenae frons, all three with Corinthian colums.... There was evidently rich coffering in all three storeys, but the upper storeys can have been accessible only by ladders, and there is no sign of a building of any sort behind this façade." The Deaconry of Santa Lucia in Septasolio did have a church, and it seems there was a monastery attached. I go with Saepta Solis (Septasolio), not the medieval corruptions.

--Vicedomino (talk) 07:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)


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Copyright problem on Joannes Anagninus ↗



Content you added to the above article appears to have been copied from http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1159.html, which is not released under a compatible license. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy ↗. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, some content had to be removed. Content you add to Wikipedia should be written in your own words. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Alderano Cybo



Hi, Vicedomino. In March 2019 you edited ↗ the article on Alderano Cybo ↗ as follows:
"His family had been forced into exile, due to the murder of the mistress of Alderano's brother-in-law, Jacopo Salviati, allegedly at the instigation of his wife, Veronica, Alderano's sister. The family took up residence in the Palazzo Salviati in Rome".

In fact, however, his family was the ruling house of the sovereign Duchy of Massa and Carrara ↗ and was to maintain control over the duchy until their merging into the House of Austria-Este ↗ at the end of the 18th century, thus never being exiled. I suppose you might have misinterpreted what the source you mention writes, reporting a very colourful episode, albeit of marginal interest in the cardinal's own life. Here is the English translation of the source’s statement:
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I have not found any reference oinline to the possibility that he took lodgings with his sister at the time of his transfer to Rome. I wonder if you'd be willing to look into the matter. Sorry for disturbing. Cheers. Jeanambr (talk) 23:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

:With every friendly intent, I must say NO to your request. I worked on that page (as you indicated) three years ago, and I have moved on. I did not say that he took up residence with his sister. I do not dispute what you say about the Cibo family ruling Massa and Carrara. I specifically stated that the persons involved in the exile were Alderano, his sister and his brother-in-law. I see nothing to correct. If you do, as an editor you are entitled to repair or add, in accordance with reliable sources. Thanks for your message. Vicedomino (talk) 05:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

:::I express my regret again for the inconvenience I have caused you, but, before intervening in the work done in good faith by other users, I usually prefer to contact them in advance to ask for their opinion and, if of their interest, to suggest their possible direct intervention. That's all. Cheers.--Jeanambr (talk) 00:52, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


Frederick II



Your recent editing of the second paragraph of Frederick II is totally messed up. I would fix it but can't make out what you intended to do. Go have a look at it. 92.6.175.196 ↗ (talk) 05:09, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

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Western Schism ↗



Your change here ↗, is not supported by the reference, which states, "''On 20 September thirteen members of the Sacred College precipitated matters by going into conclave at Fondi and choosing as pope Robert of Geneva, who took the name of Clement VII. Some months later the new pontiff, driven from the Kingdom of Naples, took up his residence at Avignon; the schism was complete.''"

Can you show where the source supports your change to; "'' Following Pope Gregory's plan, Clement VII returned the part of the papal court which was with him in Italy to Avignon.''"??? --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

:The source to which you refer (a third level source) is (1) A POV Roman Obedience source; (2) editorializing: "precipitated matters", "driven from the kingdom of Naples". The article earlier states that Gregory XI intended to take the papal court back to Avignon as soon as the Easter festivities were over, AND that he intended to visit Naples on his way out of Italy. You should read the entire article, and more of the sources, not just one. (3) There is no evidence that Clement VII was "driven out". By whom??? He was accepted and protected by the Neapolitans, and generally by the king of France. This is all general knowledge and not in need of special citation. Vicedomino (talk) 01:11, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Asking your advice...



Hi Vicedomino, do you have any idea how to get an administrator to decide about a proposed page deletion? There are several deletions I proposed which are a bit difficult to decide (it's in the German Wikipedia) and there's one case in which nothing has happened in over a month. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 08:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

:I've never dealt with administrators, let alone German ones. I am not in favor of users going about finding things to delete. There's so much that needs to be put in. An article deficient in content may just be an article waiting for an interested user to take up the subject.
:Vicedomino (talk) 09:09, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

::Thx for answering! I delete self-promotional puff which abuses Wikipedia as a free platform. Inflated presentation of banal facts and insignificant careers does serious damage to the information culture on Wikipedia. --Melchior2006 (talk) 10:22, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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You added a Guilelmus Gulik as an author of a work here ↗; I cannot find his name listed in the book ↗ so I removed it from the list of references. But I am also not fluent in Latin and not sure if I am reading things correctly, so please feel free to show me where his (amazing) name appears if I am wrong. <span style="background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="color:#FDEE00;">'''&nbsp;Mr.choppers&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;'''</span><span style="color:#FDEE00;">✎&nbsp;</span></span> 04:42, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

:It's right there on the title page:
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