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Thank you for thanking me over my talk page edit prior to this one ↗. I would appreciate though if you explained we should erase Palestinian Christians ↗ from the article. The editor objecting to its inclusion is, as you can see on the talk page, alone in his opinion that is "anachronistic". If you can explain your rationale as to why we should not use the terminology used by the reliable source cited I would appreciate it. Tiamut (talk) 09:56, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hi Tiamut, I was simply trying to bring some form of concession and peace to the constant reversions on that page. I am more than fine if you revert my changes back to your original version, as the reference used in that section clearly directly names Palestinian Christian identity. Mine was just an option that I hoped would be fair to both sides as previously another editor too removed any mention of Palestine -> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holy_Fire&diff=prev&oldid=1355431173 which I similarly corrected -> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holy_Fire&diff=next&oldid=1355431305, but the sourcing on the current dispute supports your position better. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 10:11, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for your thoughtful and considered reply. I empathize with the desire to bring stability to the page. It is an unfortunate reality here that any mention of Palestine or Palestinians tends to be deleted or contested. And I definitely understand wanting to avoid time-wasting and contentious discussions. But when there are strong policy and sourced based reasons to retain mention of them, (especially an overlooked and undermentioned minority like Palestinian Christians ↗), I feel they should be. Or we will end up with an encyclopedia that does not mention them at all. if you do not want to participate in the discussion, I don't blame you. And I will wait for feedback from other editors to make any more changes for now. Thanks again for your efforts and time. Tiamut (talk) 10:39, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Please stop saying “some”, one person isn’t some



There is at least ome use of it in Tower of Babel im too tired to fix, please fix.it, thanks <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 16:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

:Understood, my mistake, will be sure to mention it is only one person's view, and will name the individual. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 15:37, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Early Christianity article query



Hello. can you please explain:

# how the source you re-added isn't biased
# how the sentence that was re-added could be interpreted as not stating that God exists as fact
# how the wording I provided was not suitable/against the manual of style etc

Ectoplasm22 (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

:Greetings Ectoplasm22, you clearly removed a credible source not just changing the wording, that's why you were reverted -> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Early_Christianity&diff=prev&oldid=1359974789. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 08:51, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::which source did I remove? Ectoplasm22 (talk) 10:01, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::You can see it linked there when I restored it, by Udo Schnelle (2020), ''The First One Hundred Years of Christianity: An Introduction to Its History, Literature, and Development'', pages 58-60 which were referenced in that section. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 10:04, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::In just that section specifically? Ectoplasm22 (talk) 10:04, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::the fact of the matter is, there is no actual evidence that any real God “dwelt in the temple” Ectoplasm22 (talk) 10:06, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but that's what they believed in their religion, the language is neutral when you actually look at the statement within its full context:
::::::"Christianity originated as a minor sect within Second Temple Judaism, the form of Judaism existing from the end of the Babylonian captivity (<abbr>c.</abbr> 598 – c. 537 BC) to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. '''The central tenets''' of Second Temple Judaism revolved around monotheism and '''the belief that Jews were a chosen people'''. As part of their covenant with God, Jews were obligated to obey the Torah. In return, they were given the land of Israel and the city of Jerusalem, where God dwelt in the Temple."
::::::Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 10:10, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::that just says how the jews believe that they are the chosen people. This expression that it is their belief doesnt continue throuout Ectoplasm22 (talk) 10:12, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::if that is part of the source referenced, I really cannot see how this source can be deemed remotely credible Ectoplasm22 (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::It's credible because the author is simply discussing the history of the time, its inclusion in that section of the article is not saying this actually happened and God was literally there, but just what the ancient Jewish religion taught. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 10:15, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::it seems to state that the jews believed they were chosen by god. this is fine. It then goes on to state that because they followed the religions teachings, the were given Israel etc. this part is not stating or inferring that this was their belief rather than fact.
::::::::like it implies that them getting Israel was a direct consequence/ course of action for following Gods law, which as God hasn’t been proven to exist, is not accurate to what has seemed to happen for them to receive Israel
::::::::I also find the part where it says “where God dwelt in the temple” doesn’t really add any substance at all to the article, and this is displayed to an even greater extent to seem to be stated as fact.
::::::::after it is stated that jews believed they were chosen people, it seems to shift focus, and discuss something slightly different. Ectoplasm22 (talk) 12:46, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::I think it is probably best to take any other discussion on this topic to the talk page of the article. Ectoplasm22 (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::I changed the phrasing and tenses, so it should now be clearly understood that such things are beliefs under their religion. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 12:58, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::thank you! your wording makes alot more sense than mine while not removing an important source, and remains alot less leaning towards the religion. :) Ectoplasm22 (talk) 13:00, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Abrahamic religions



Regarding this diff ↗, the article text specifically mentions the set of ''three'' abrahamic religions. If we are to include the other faiths mentioned based on Wikipedia:Describe a religion ↗, would we not need to include at the very least "Baháʼí Faith, the Druze faith, Rastafari, and Samaritanism" ''all'' within the image, not just the Baha'i faith? I understand where you are coming from, but applying your logic, I don't see a justification for adding ''only'' the Baha'i faith to the image. Transgenderoriole (talk) 14:32, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hello Transgenderoriole, it also mentions the smaller religions on that article and I checked the number of Baha'i faith ↗ followers, and it is around 8 million adherents, which is close to Judaism's ↗ 15 million, so I strongly felt it was warranted for an inclusion in the lead image. However, I will not revert you again if you disagree, that was basically my reasoning behind it. I also recognize the user who made that change has a history of many other questionable and even disruptive edits without first discussing anything on their own or other talk pages (sometimes even waiting days, weeks or months to go back and insert or remove images and other changes again), so I understand you as well. If another version exists with all of them including the minor faiths, then that can be added to it as well, I just thought Baha'i has more than enough numbers to warrant such an inclusion alongside Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Ancient Greek Scribe (talk) 15:10, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
::I understand. However, this page in particular has had some of the most unjustified edits by the user, specifically removing content related to the Druze faith, and adding Baha'i to the diagram while not adding the other religions (baha'i probably does not warrant inclusion on that specific diagram due to its comparatively tiny proportion, but if it is to be included, the others should be as well). Transgenderoriole (talk) 15:14, 22 June 2026 (UTC)