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I would like to add a sentence to the Hunter Biden laptop controversy article. I see that you have made edits to the page. The page is protected, so I went to the Talk page
Talk:Hunter Biden laptop controversy ↗
and clicked "Click here to start a new topic", then composed my suggestion. But when I click "Add topic", it just shows moving slanted lines for a second, and then gives up. I have tried this several times. What do I need to do to actually add the topic? Swan2024 (talk) 03:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::I reported the glitch at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#IP_editor(s)_cannot_edit_talk_pages ↗. I assume you’re not a registered user, but if you become one then it will likely work for you. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I have a login, Swan2024, which I created several hours ago in case that was the reason I couldn't add the topic. Is that sufficient for "registered user"? Swan2024 (talk) 05:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Should work without logging in, but almost certainly will work when you’re logged in, User:Swan2024. Good luck. The likely cause of your difficulty is that you were trying to add a topic with just one or two words in the header, and/or one or two words in your comment. Wikipedia requires more words from users who aren’t logged in, so as to filter out spam. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Regarding Springfield, Ohio, cat-eating hoax ↗
First, thank you for restoring the text I mistakenly removed. I have restored directly from Carguychris' edit. If you believe your version is better, than just revert my last two edits.
Regarding the neo-Nazi debate ↗, here is my perspective. You made a claim there are not reliable sources, which was refuted. You made a claim that it was the media that amplified the hoax, which has not been proven outside unreliable sources like Fox News. When you provide your list of sources, then we can see your perspective and discuss. Until then, it looks like the three of us don't agree with your perspective. Alternatively, if you want to suggest alternative wording, then go ahead and do so. I already made one such change when you didn't agree with the word 'they' and am willing to work together on wording. I just am opposed to the removal of details about what happened. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:To explain why I didn't get your other ping and seemed to be ignoring your message, you put your signature on a newline. As noted at Template:Reply to ↗, "[t]he edit must be signed by adding <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> to the end of the message." The system acted as if you had made two messages and ignored the ping to me in the first message. Hope that clears things up a bit. --Super Goku V (talk) 05:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:User:Super Goku V, thanks for visiting my user talk. Regarding nazis, please see WP:OPEN ↗, which says, “The first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific.” You say above that you’re “opposed to the removal of details about what happened.” But I don’t object to putting nazi details in the article body, or even later in the lead if people feel strongly about it. Just not in the opening paragraph. As far as I know, nazis had no effect on what happened in Springfield, nor any effect on what GOP politicians did. What a horror show Wikipedia’s articles on political events would become if they all began with commentary from the nazis on the left, and the Marxists on the right. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::Sources say that neo-Nazi groups were spreading the message along with far-right groups. Given the prominence in reliable sources, we are following a Neutral point of view ↗ by mentioning it in the lede. As for the order of stuff, the only thing I could see that has a shot would be splitting off everything after the first sentence of the first paragraph into a new second paragraph and moving all of the old second paragraph into the first paragraph following the first sentence.
::{{Blockquote|text = Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.<br />The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered, then spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups. These claims were amplified by prominent figures in the American right, most notably Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.<br />The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.}}
::I don't know if it could be considered an improvement or not as it waits until the second paragraph to explain what is debunked, though it does put more emphasis that the claims are false. Other than that, I don't have much of a suggestion outside of this other one:
::{{Blockquote|text = Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered and rose to national prominence by Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, followed then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.<br />Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist and having been spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups in the area. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.<br />The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.}}
::If either of the two work for you, then go ahead and try it. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::Oh and I am Subscribe ↗d to this discussion, so feel free to ping or not as I will know either way. --Super Goku V (talk) 08:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I always prefer being chronological where possible, which helps people to comprehend what happened, one step at a time. That’s why I generally like the opening paragraph as it stands now: it summarizes the major developments one step at a time, in a clear manner. Except that I just think the nazi detail needs to be moved lower in the lead or removed from the lead. As I explained here at my talk page, I am not aware that any nazis affected what happened in Springfield, or affected how GOP politicians reacted to the whole thing. When nazis spread rumors, they typically do so on nazi websites and other places where nazis hang out, but AFAIK they’re not able to spread rumors into the mainstream, and the latter might be significant if it happened, but I’m not aware that it did happen. Anythingyouwant (talk) 10:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Understood. I did reply on the talk page about what they did in Springfield. As for lowering it in the lead, try it and see if it works. --Super Goku V (talk) 20:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::::"When nazis spread rumors, they typically do so on nazi websites and other places where nazis hang out, but AFAIK they’re not able to spread rumors into the mainstream, and the latter might be significant if it happened, but I’m not aware that it did happen."
::::They do it all the time. You yourself spread constant disinformation just like Nazis do, rewriting history to fit your a-historical right-wing world view. You are an enemy of the free world, "Ferrylodge". Danielfreebee (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::You haven’t given the slightest example of any article edit I made, that you disagree with. Instead you make disgusting accusations, and try to intimidate. One more comment like this and I will ask you to stay away from my user talk. My goal at Wikipedia is NPOV, not obeisance to the likes of you. I can make mistakes, and try to do better. I can see that you make mistakes too. Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm wondering about the edits you made on {{noredirect|Wikipedia:Not a forum}} and {{noredirect|Wikipedia:NOT A FORUM}}. The RfD above ended with retargeting the redirects to {{sectionlink|Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|not a forum}}, but you changed this back to the version before the RfD discussion. Can you explain why? Justjourney (talk | contribs ↗) 23:55, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
::Hmm, I just got back home from a long drive, sorry if I messed up that edit. I was trying to avoid a double redirect. Is there a double redirect now? Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#not a forum ↗ seemed like a redirect to me because there is no section titled “not a forum”, right? Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Oh I see, it’s not a redirect, but rather is an anchor. Sorry for the oversight, User:Justjourney. Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:05, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
::::That's alright, I also only figured out anchors recently, they seem very new to me. Justjourney (talk | contribs ↗) 01:58, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
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:I only inserted the Pew footnote once, and it hasn’t been reverted. If someone reverts it, I would take it to talk. OK? Anythingyouwant (talk) 13:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
:On second thought, I did a partial revert per your request.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&diff=1314635989&oldid=1314633276 ↗ Anythingyouwant (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you. I don't care about the Pew citation either way, but for now it's odd to be using the quote parameter the way we are. We use it to quote text, usually from less-accessible sources, that explicitly supports the claim being made in the body text. Now we're quoting a fully accessible source in a way that is unrelated to the claim made in the body text. Awkward, I think. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs ↗) 13:27, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
:::I started a talk page section. You are free to insert the words “of the 49” as proposed, or to delete the quote from the footnote, or to await an outcome at the talk page. Anythingyouwant (talk) 13:36, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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Based on this ↗, this ↗, and this ↗, you seem to be renewing some of the same WP:ABOUTSELF ↗ issues that were discussed here ↗. Your overwhelming preference to use politicians' descriptions of their own positions over secondary reliable sources received broad disapproval. Please note that the primary issue described in the ANI (allegedly suggesting Wikipedia is complicit in political violence) is not pertinent here, as you have not made any statements at Talk:Winsome Earle-Sears ↗ that could be construed as such even in the least generous light. However, in the ''most'' generous light, multiple editors still felt your prioritizing of statements from the subject of an article was not in keeping with sourcing policy. Separately, it is also probably best to refrain from saying you were going to stop assuming good faith and making comments like {{tq|All anethema to Pbritti, it would seem}}. I don't intend to discuss this further on the article's talk page (as stated there), nor do I think extended discussions on user talk pages are typically helpful. Hope you are well and that, if you desire it, you can find the time to edit at the pace you did in the past. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:41, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
::User:Pbritti, first of all, I have no such preference to use politicians' descriptions of their own positions over secondary reliable sources. You know that, because I did not remove anything from the Sears BLP, I only added additional stuff. And not from any self-published source either; both sources I added are from reputable interviews, one by Jillian Michaels ↗ and another from an ABC affiliate WRIC-TV ↗. So you've already jeopardized your credibility here in this user talk page section. You apparently accuse me of committing the same sin that you believe I committed five months ago, and you call it WP:ABOUTSELF ↗. In your zeal, you neglected to notice that the BLP subject in question five months ago was being characterized as bad precisely because of a video showing that person speaking, I merely disagreed with those who drew that conclusion from the video. As I recall, my objection helped cause the BLP to be deleted, which was the proper course. Now, I have a question about something you said above, which was this: "Hope you are well and that, if you desire it, you can find the time to edit at the pace you did in the past." What pace is that, more than now, or less than now? Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:59, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
:::I was telling you I hoped you could find yourself able to edit more frequently, as you did until a few years ago. People change their editing habits for all sorts of reasons (jobs, other hobbies, a loss of interest, etc.), and I hope you are in a position in life where you can dictate how much you contribute to the project. ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:08, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I found it frustrating that so many Wikipedians are unreasonable and/or lack neutrality, and so I scaled back my editing to avoid the heartburn. A good example is the Wikipedia page for the Gaza genocide which still violates Wikipedia's NPOV. As Jimbo has said, it "is a particularly egregious example" of not maintaining neutrality, but there are many many others. If I can do more to try and make the world a slightly better place by spending my time elsewhere, then that's what I tend to do. I have always been in a position to dictate how much I contribute to the project. Anythingyouwant (talk) 06:20, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
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Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1353030571 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&diff=1353089168&oldid=1353049136 ↗
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::Hi User:Mandruss, I've always preferred raw refs, they're so much quicker and easier. Do you want me to use the templates at the Trump article? Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:23, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
:::That's the local convention. Using the templates is just part of internal consistency. Granted, we set a higher-than-average internal consistency bar at that article. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 09:18, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
:::{{tq|You do understand the rationale for using the templates?}} After re-reading, I'm not sure you do.
:::*Site-wide standard presentation of citations.
:::*Any change to the above automatically picked up by all articles.
:::So it's not ''only'' internal consistency. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 03:36, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::::User:Mandruss, of course I will use citation templates at the main Trump BLP, if it's important to you. But elsewhere I would like to continue in my primitive ways. My understanding has always been that if the <ref> symbol works without citation templates then that must mean citation templates are not required. It's not like, say, WP:DENIALS ↗ where something is indeed actually required. :-)  Anythingyouwant (talk) 03:54, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::I don't care about other articles for the most part; it's a tenet of my <del>self-retirement</del> <ins>semi-retirement</ins>. I just wanted you to know the effect of what you're doing. Not all good things are required. ―<b style="color:#775c57">''Mandruss''</b> <span style="color:#888">☎</span> 2¢. IMO. 05:02, 9 May 2026 (UTC) Edited after reply ↗ 05:12, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::Just watch, you will be happy. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:08, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
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I want to apologize for the WP:SHOWN ↗ mix up I had on the talk page. My intention was to keep all of the discussion in one section so we could see how our ideas evolved and where the existing consensus was in order for us to avoid edit warring over the same arguments. With the appearance of new accounts and others simply ignoring the talk page altogether, things became overwhelming in discussions pretty quickly as people tried to keep up with the news.
We worked well through our discussions before and I don't want my mistake to create any concerns about any future collaboration. Thanks for your help and patience! WMrapids (talk) 09:57, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
:Thanks for the kind message, I probably make more mistakes than you do, no worries. Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:35, 30 June 2026 (UTC)