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Montenegrin L-ATV


When you added Montenegro to to L-ATV/JLTV operator list, you noted that it uses GAU-19 ↗ in its Elbit RCWS. However I can't seem to find any confirmation for that claim, where did you find that info? Whutever1 (talk) 22:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, the media didn't catch up on this, but every image of the Montenegrin JLTV indicates that they are all equipped with the GAU-19.
:https://x.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1664443140181471233 Fabrice Ram (talk) 11:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
::Look at the last picture ↗ that's more close up, the three things on the outside are not multiple barrels but solid rods - there's no holes in them and they are far to thin to be 12.7mm barrels anyway, the actual barrel is in the centre. I think those are some kind of braces/stabilizers. Whutever1 (talk) 07:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

CS1 error on Airbus A330neo ↗


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German Air Force



25px|alt=Warning icon ↗ Do NOT start trying to override community policies for your own personal ideas WP:NOTHERE ↗ - Inventory tables are designed in such a way so they can be compatible with all devices. Community standards like WP:IMAGEMOS ↗, are not there, because of specifics to the inventory tables, but because of having too many images in the article "''Don't use images or galleries excessively''" - If you continue to disruptively edit ↗ on Wikipedia you will be blocked ↗ from editing - <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">FOX 52</b> <sup><b style="color:dark blue">''talk!''</b></sup> 05:56, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

:So ALL equipment inventory of military use excessive imagees?
:That's a ridiculous thing, there ia no community guideline that is violated.What about you disruptively editing and deleting accurate informaton? You are preventing progress on this page, so it's the definition of disrupting a page ! Fabrice Ram (talk) 18:13, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
::You can't say they didn't warn you! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
::''Woah d000d this article suuuucks!'' *proceeds to rewrite several tables without any consideration, posting them in talk pages* <span style="color:lightgray;">フロップ</span> · fL0p <small><span style="color:gray;">(er)</span></small> · <sub><span style="color:darkgray;">'''quaestiōnēs?'''</span></sub> 04:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

CS1 error on Euroradar CAPTOR ↗


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August 2023



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:Hi,
:There is a misunderstanding here.
:Imagine that you're doing an article listing a certain category of something. You know that many appear in another category referencing something else... Why bothering starting from scratch when a table already contains some elements that will be used?
:That doesn't make the history of the other article relevant, and that doesn't make the copy-paste a blind copy paste. So thank ou for the remark, but I don't see at all how this would be relevant to do what you are recommending ! Fabrice Ram (talk) 03:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
::No. The article was moved to the plural spelling of "howitzers". You then created a new page at the "howitzer" spelling. I had fixed your error, and then you went and updated it erroneously again. Stop doing that. - UtherSRG (talk) ↗ 11:23, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on List of wheeled self-propelled howitzer ↗


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CS1 error on Archer Artillery System ↗


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minor edits ? unsourced and biased



Reviewing your overall contributions I see that you declare most of them as minor edits. I need to point out that this aint right and is misleading. please review what a minor edit is supposed to be.

Secondly, you''' must '''provide a reference for each claim you make on a page. I see that you introduced a lot of unsourced claims on General Dynamics European Land Systems ↗.

Thirdly, It does look like you may have been employed- paid to do this. You should identify yourself as such, declare the COI and ask others to edit, if you have such a COI. Wuerzele (talk) 14:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

:Not paid, the minor edits are minor edits... Fabrice Ram (talk) 16:59, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

::That's a good excuse for doing whatever you want in somewhere more of your own property... let's say a blog. You seem to like military stuff, just open your site or blog and dump all that bias there. You'll end up getting away with whatever you add there. I promise. ;) <span style="color:lightgray;">フロップ</span> · fL0p <small><span style="color:gray;">(er)</span></small> · <sub><span style="color:darkgray;">'''quaestiōnēs?'''</span></sub> 04:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Please stop marking your edits as minor



Hello,

It seems like you've ignored @Wuerzele's suggestions and are continuing to misidentify edits as minor. These edits (645 ↗, 838 ↗, 367 ↗ bytes) are quite large and often make significant changes to the page. I'd like to remind you that minor edits are well defined ↗; they are intended to mark spelling corrections, copyedits, minor formatting changes, and the like. They are ''not'' intended for large content changes like those in your edits.

More concerning is the apparent lack of sources for a majority of your content. I would request that you provide more accurate sources for edits in the future and retroactively source your edits when possible.

Regards, <b style="font-family:Verdana;color:Green;font-size:100%;">''Catalyzzt''</b> (talk) 17:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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CS1 error on List of Airbus A350 orders and deliveries ↗


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March 2024


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:The summary table is awesome. You decided to remove it for what reason? Fabrice Ram (talk) 22:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::How is a section using zero references "awesome"? TylerBurden (talk) 19:37, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::It is a summary of what's below... All the references are below... Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::::The information is already summarized in that section, content with two or six lines of text need to be summarized in a table? Placing it on top of the actual content that is already succinct is not in line with MOS:TABLES ↗, it's a waste of space. TylerBurden (talk) 21:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::You are also repeatedly adding this ↗ unreliable source that uses a random Twitter user: "@T_90_M Russian main battle tank. 48 tons of steel and sex appeal. SAFO = Stalin Apologist Fellas Organisation." as its reference. Doing this with content relating to a contentious topic makes it even worse. You will be reported if you continue, so consider that a final warning. TylerBurden (talk) 21:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::What is your damn problem with a summary table?
::::::This is ridiculous ! Plus you are contradicting yourself on what the problem is...
::::::You are removing an old table that has been accepted for months. Are you the king of the edit?
::::::What space waste is it?
::::::Don't you think that sometimes summaries bring support in reading? Fabrice Ram (talk) 21:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::So now you are violating WP:CIVIL ↗ as well. A table taking up 7,374 bytes of the article is not remotely necessary for content that is already effectively summarized in its own section, especially not when it is badly plastered in front of the actual content it is meant to summarize, that is quite basic Wikipedia manual of style regardless of how "awesome" you personally find it. You need to read up on both WP:MOS ↗ and WP:RS ↗, in particular the latter, because attempting to use "@T_90_M Russian main battle tank. 48 tons of steel and sex appeal. SAFO = Stalin Apologist Fellas Organisation." as a Wikipedia reference is the worst editing I've seen on a contentious topic in a long time and it's exactly the kind of thing that can get you topic banned if not outright blocked. TylerBurden (talk) 19:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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Boxer



Hello Fabrice Ram ↗,
I thought it way better to engage in '''Talk''' than just dive back into the Boxer (Armoured Fighting Vehicle) ↗ article and revert your edits back to mine. In quite a few years on Wiki I have learnt that explaining ones thought processes, and the reason behind a series of edits, is often way way better than just doing, re-doing, re-doing, and then getting into all manner of fuss and disagreement and ending up attracting the attention of the 'Wikipedia Police.' Once they have their claws into you, they're in...

Anyway, my edits you reverted, mentioning 0 references. You are correct, and for that I apologise. My editing session was cut short yesterday before I had a chance to get to inserting the references for the changes to Qatar and to the UK. I have full and detailed references for both. I really should have done them as I worked, but you know how it goes, I'm sure.

So, looking ahead, I will revert to my edits today, '''BUT...,''' with a full set of citations for all the changes etc I make. I have slides of the current ARTEC Boxer 31 variants offering (from ARTEC), plus the current UK order breakdown (Janes/Hansard), and the current terminology they use. Things like reference to a baseline protected mobility (PM) variant (MIV-PM), and command and control (MIV-CC) and repair/recovery (MIV-REP) variants are no longer used. I expect the designations will change again! I was talking to the UK PM for Boxer at a defence event here in the UK in January, and even he used incorrect terminology! What hope is there for the rest of us!

Sadly though, I cannot use those slides in the Wikipedia article as I don't have the copyright to them. However, and while I'm not sure Wiki would allow this, I could try, and would be happy to let you have sight of them should you have any doubts as too their efficacy. Would you like me to try? In broader terms, my primary source for these latest updates is Janes, the AFV Yearbook and Defence Weekly. I've also succeeded in opening up a line of communication with ARTEC, and I'm currently trying to get them to link their mission module designations to what users actually have. Who has APC A, APC B, APC C and so on... They seem a little reluctant to do that at present. We will see!

Back to the actual Boxer article on Wiki, and as to reducing the amount of text in the UK section of Operators, this forms part of a styling approach to make the article a little more consistent, and maybe more readable with some continuity of style. The German, Lithuanian and Netherlands sections of Operators look great, and serve as a one stop shop for the relevant information in one short and sharp hit. It also seems to be, broadly, more in keeping with the wider Wiki style. Currently, the UK (and Australia) sub-sections contain a little too much waffle that bogs the reader down. Much of this waffle is covered in body text, and text that a reader-reader (if that term makes sense) would take the time to read.

At some point I also aim to make Australia in Operators look more like the better German etc. presentation.

On the Qatar subject, again I do have citation references for the changes I made and I will include those. I removed the 'Qatar might buy... Qatar wants to buy...' stuff as this is speculation and not really Boxer article stuff. Would you agree? There's a Wiki guideline somewhere about crystal ball-type stuff.

In fact, looking ahead, I'm not really sure the entire 'Crystal Ball' potential users bit is even really relevant at all. Maybe that's something to open up to the wider Wiki community. Your thoughts?

One of my key aims with this Boxer article is to clear up what I find to be Wiki's biggest problems with larger more detailed records. I don't know if you find these with the stuff you work on, but a random editor who has a little bit but overall limited subject matter knowledge will grab an update from somewhere, dive in, make it, cite it, and walk away. What they seldom do is check the article through for any and all other little mentions of the subject they updated, and that are now wrong to varying degrees, even if by something as simple as 'will do' becoming 'has done'... And the other one... Just dumping updates in random places that screw up any attempt at style, continuity and readability!

You seem to do quite a bit of Wiki editing of stuff I'm interested in, so our paths may well cross again in the weeks or months to come. Do please 'Talk' if you have any queries, or even issues going forwards. Best SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 09:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

:Hello,
:Thanks for contacting that way, indeed, much more efficient, and better for the quality that we all thrive to.
:The potential sales are in my view important in this topic for the readers, as it is a strong indicator of what is going on with that material. The potential sales aren't based on no information but usually on strong indications from concurring information.
:As there is a will from Qatar to purchase 8x8 vehicles at the moment, I believe that it is relevant, but I might be wrong.
:For the UK, the source is highly problematic due to the lack of source from your side. In that peculiar situation, I trust you for having those information, but I do believe that you need a solution for it, and it would be best to have the solution before confirming the modifications.
:BUT as a general rule, this article is highly problematic, and I have started some modifications. It goes in many directions, but I want to implement them at some points.
:What if we collaborate and criticise each other's work, and propose the changes in the "Talk" section of Boxer? Major changes should be discussed as a general rule. So we could do it in a smarter non-conflictual way.
:Regards, cheers Fabrice Ram (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for getting back to me. Been delayed as if you check the Boxer page out, the Wiki Police have been busy. I've encountered this person before, and while Wiki needs to be ''managed'' this person maybe takes it a little to far... I honestly think they sit in a room all day and do nothing other than search out alleged copyright breaches across Wiki. If you can be bothered, look at what was considered a copyright breach on the Boxer page! Compare the difference between what was there, and the source they quoted. If that's copyright infringement then 90% of Wikipedia needs to be taken down! But no matter, as you can't reason with these people and their world is black or white, I rewrote the segment anyway... Part of me thinks that will still be wrong!
::Anyway, our stuff...
::I think the Boxer article is now way better than when I started on it a few days back, and is on the way to becoming a logical progression of a read. There's still a bit to do though, I agree. I tend to work on a article, and not bounce around between many. Just my style.
::I'm best part through making sure there are no contradictions in text, and that the body text as best it can flows chronologically, and with only the necessary repetition. Doing that has brought most sections in line. Next I'll tackle the Design section and just tidy that up with a few updates here and there.
::I've the citations to hand to revert the UK part we have spoken about and may do that later today if I have time. I'm not convinced the Qatar stuff is really relevant, but I do have the acquisition of ten units to add there.
::With regard to the '''Potential orders''' section, if I were writing this as a history or feature, I'd not include it. However, I'm not, it's not ''mine'' as such, and Wiki is all about compromise and working together. So I agree, let's leave it and if we encounter the Crystal Ball Police (and they're out there I'm sure...) we can deal with it then!
::I do think '''Competitions lost / potential sales not concluded''' should be deleted at some point as it's really not relevant, and no other comparable Wiki article has a similar section that I can find, and I'm not so sure that what is essentially a potted history of requirements that went to others for other products (in most cases) is Boxer-worthy material. It should probably be in the article about whatever won the given requirement?
::One thing I will revise shortly is the 38 more Boxer the Netherlands allegedly will buy. Spoke to my PoC at the Netherlands MoD and that's fake news. That said, Google struggled to locate anything beyond one badly translated source. The Netherlands has a desire to up-gun some Boxer, and is looking at an EW variant, but that's about that for now.
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Hey sorry to bug you but I noticed you changed the names regarding the Type 24 ICV, MMCV, and the CTWV RCV. I looked over the FY2025 budgets and none were called by the names you listed. We do have documents where the Type 24 ICV is called "ICV" in relation to the ICV program. Its literal translated name in the FY2025 document is "Type 24 wheeled armored fighting vehicle" and "Common tactical wheeled vehicle for infantry combat" (CTWV-IC). Same goes for the MMCV and RCV. RCV itself is not '''TYPE''' classified. The budget still called it CTWV RCV. I changed the JGSDF article to reflect this as well. We have an image as well with these names translated. I understand you had no malice with changing the names but sometimes its best to check the source of where the vehicles were type classified and check what they were called. Since the FY2025 budget calls the vehicles simply by the generic vehicle type or just CTWV, I defaulted to using their CTWV names for the lack of anything better.


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We don't care how you feel. Go play your propaganda or one-sided source posting in your own website.Kadrun (talk) 17:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

:So they announce more losses than ever donated, but you take it as information?
:This is pure disinformation, and you know it.
:You know that you have the burden of proof? You base your information on fake news agencies... I don't have to prove anything, it did not happen. Impossible to prove something that doesn't happen.
:When some images are M109, PzH 2000, AS-90, and they use it 10 times for different systems, you are the one to prove your dumb claims. Go ahead, report me ! Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::Exactly. Those sources prove both Russian claim / Russian disinformation. Either way. Both side lies so who set the guideline what's true or not? Kadrun (talk) 04:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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:Did you see the content of the article?
:It connects to other pages that contain the information for practical reason and make it readable, and this is filled with sources. Regarding the pages it connects to, those have sources. Fabrice Ram (talk) 07:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
::@Fabrice Ram it has a bit of promotional text. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 15:31, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

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:The Belgian Air Force is a club? WHY THE F are you doing that? It's the beginning of a page.
:Stop doing this kind of stuff Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:17, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

No.



You can't remove my speedy deletion nomination, as you made Equipment of the Belgian Air Component ↗. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 20:23, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:Fabrice Ram, I've declined the speedy deletion as the reason it was tagged does not apply to the article. However, as the creator of the article '''you cannot remove the tag yourself'''. If you edit war to do so in the future, you will likely find yourself blocked. Please don't do that.-- <span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span><sup><span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span></sup> 20:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for the information. Fabrice Ram (talk) 21:12, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Sorry.



Hi, Equipment of the Belgian Air Component ↗ was marked for deletion by me, but I did a mistake, so it got declined. When you first made it, it looked messed up, but later, when you made it look good, it was too late to remove it, and got declined. Sorry. You also wrote rude stuff on it's talk page which got removed. I was sort of new at csd, I am more active in creating articles so it makes sense. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 22:03, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

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:Collaboration indeed. Which is absolutely not what happened with that page, as I explained to one of the harasser what I was doing, and he doubled down. So please feel free to talk to them.
:The "who cares about Belgium", of a guy criticising the content while not knowing anything about the topic is not what I call respect, and collaboration.
:One good approach would have been to contact me like you just did, and I would have been happy to explain things. Fabrice Ram (talk) 13:25, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
::@Fabrice Ram excuse me? Are you talking about me? Why are you keep on writing rude stuff about me? You even wrote such a rude reply at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equipment of the Belgian Air Component ↗. I only nominated it for speedy deletion once and voted for '''Delete''' at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equipment of the Belgian Air Component ↗ because it was not notable. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 13:55, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:::So why is it notable for other countries and not Belgium?
:::Why was it notable when some of the equipment for in the Army (wrong article), but not notable for a new one?
:::Do you know how many people look at these articles in these moments of conflict risk? Yes, it is notable. Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:47, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It's about the sources. They are not reliable. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 20:50, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@Fabrice Ram what does that have to do with Belgium? ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 20:53, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::What does it have to do with Belgium? The fact that those pages exist for tens of countries?
::::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_military_equipment
::::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_currently_active_military_equipment_by_country Fabrice Ram (talk) 21:02, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::It's not about Belgium, it's about the sources. ~<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold;background-color:white">'''''Rafael!'''''</span> (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 21:53, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Wanna be constructive? Flag each source that you don't like... Fabrice Ram (talk) 22:41, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, that's harassement. I explained to you that it was the beginning of an article. Why don't you reach out and ask what's the plan before doing that? Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:47, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

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Stop adding the GM200 to the List of equipment of the Royal Danish Army



The GM200 is a replacement for the RAC-3D operated by the Danish Air Force.

From the Danish Defence: "https://www.forsvaret.dk/da/materiel2/radarer/"

"Radarer

Flyvevåbnet har forskellige radartyper til den permanente overvågning af luftrummet over Danmark og til indsættelse i internationale operationer.

Kortrækkende mobil varslingsradar RAC-3D
Antal:
4
Rækkevidde mod fly:
100 km
Antennestørrelse:
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Betjening:
2 mand
Samlet vægt:
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The Air Force has various types of radar for the permanent surveillance of the airspace over Denmark and for deployment in international operations.

Short-range mobile early warning radar RAC-3D

Quantity: 4
Range against aircraft: 100 km
Antenna size: 4 m2
Operation: 2 men
Total weight: 10,000 kg"

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You keep changing the format of the tables, but do you look at all at the output? The tables wrap horribly badly on the actual page on full width/high resolution computer monitors (e.g. very narrow columns with single words not even fitting on a single row, also very irregular and uneven spacing of the columns between tables; this being especially bad in the Legacy Vector skin which gives more space for the page itself), despite maybe being better (in your opinion) on the source wikicode - the output should be the primary measure for which the code should be written for, not editability. I would suggest testing the edits and polishing them up (like making the cell spacing/column width properly functioning); a good compromise would be just to open up the tight wikicode without making changes to the table display format itself (the percentages on the columns of the tables were carefully tested for readability in the previous format). Although on a proper computer monitor the previous code also appears well readable in the code editor, and requires far less scrolling to edit, but to some extent I agree with your point on being more difficult to edit, especially for editors new to wikicode. - - On the table wrapping issue, let me explain myself with some screenshots on your new formatting (links to Imgur uploads): https://i.imgur.com/CHHXKdm.png ↗ https://i.imgur.com/Yj9OOP6.png ↗ — XoravaX (talk) 12:03, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

: I made the compromise edit I proposed above, but later considered that it might still wrap suboptimally on narrower screens (mainly scaling the images too small). I guess further optimisation of the tables would be warranted. Screenshots on how it wraps now (again links to Imgur uploads): https://i.imgur.com/KhueRh5.png ↗ https://i.imgur.com/KzhOlow.png ↗ — XoravaX (talk) 12:28, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

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Origin List of equipment of the Royal Danish Army



Just going to explain here as it allows for more text

Origin is the contract holder, I do not personally like the solution but it became a neccessity as multi origin(Multiple countries in origin) for some reason wasent acceptable thus the most important, the ones who is actually being paid for the work ended up being the standard so people can use the list to actually see where its goverments buys arms

Same goes for Spike, M25, JIM-LR and a couple others

Cheers and nice catch on the Pir V Eagle V deal being in Spain NobuttoO (talk) 16:43, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

:Why are you changing your "facts"?
:1. That's wrong, that's not what "origin" means.
:2. That's NOT what you said in the past.
:3. And guess what? The contract holder for the Piranha V is? GDELS MOWAG... Not GDELS SBS...
:https://www.gd.com/Articles/2015/05/07/denmark-selects-general-dynamics-european-land-systems-piranha-5
:"General Dynamics European Land Systems S.L. (GDELS), through its Switzerland-based subsidiary GDELS-Mowag, has been notified by the Ministry of Defense of Denmark that the PIRANHA 5 Armoured Infantry Fighting Vehicle has been selected as the new armoured personnel carrier (APC) for the Danish Armed Forces."
:Meaning?
:The subsidiary GDELS Mowag signed the contract. So again, why are you changing the facts?
:It's a Swiss design, made in Switzerland, by a Swiss company.
:Structure?
:General Dynamics (USA) -> General Dynamics Land Systems (USA) -> General Dynamics European Land Systems (Spain) -> all the GDELS subsidiaries in Europe.
:GDELS, the home company communicates for all the European subsidiaries. But as the press release says, it is GDELS-Mowag that signed the contract.
:Other elements? It's Switzerland who approved the export. So I will change it, and if you change that, I will start to have a discussion with the admins. Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
::GDELS MOWAG is manufacturing unit like GDELS Deutchland, GDELS Austria while GDELS is business unit in charge of sales agreements in Europe which is why its the contract holder and in charge of the sale while Mowag manufactures it
::Originally we had it as USA(Contractor) and Switzerland(Manufacturer) in the origin tab as that what the original press statement said refeered to "american defence giant GDLS" and the vehicle was to be manufactured in Switzerland. Now of course with what youve brought it clear the american side hasent been involved, much like the british side of BAE hasent been involved in CV90 sales NobuttoO (talk) 10:21, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::No, you're wrong, why are you changing the facts again? SWISS CONTRACT.
:::You said the CONTRACT mattered?
:::Anyway, the Piranha IS SWISS, so stop that.
:::And the USA is NOT INVOLVED in the Piranha. It's a SWISS PRODUCT. It is THE SAME... Fabrice Ram (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::The contract holder, which is YOUR idea...
:::It is?
:::SWISS, AS SAID ON THIS LINK...
:::https://www.gd.com/Articles/2015/05/07/denmark-selects-general-dynamics-european-land-systems-piranha-5
:::Spain is just where GDELS has its headquarter. The contract still is SWISS, YOU TALKED ABOUT CONTRACTS, so STOP CHANGING THIS.
:::What does this mean?
:::"General Dynamics European Land Systems S.L. (GDELS), through its Switzerland-based subsidiary GDELS-Mowag, has been notified by the Ministry of Defense of Denmark that the PIRANHA 5 Armoured Infantry Fighting Vehicle has been selected as the new armoured personnel carrier (APC) for the Danish Armed Forces."
:::THAT THE CONTRACT IS SWISS, it's a SWISS PRODUCT.
:::Following your absurd logic, I will change the CV90 to British.
:::Why are you doing Wiki terrorism? Fabrice Ram (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Infobox weapon: definition of origin? origin – optional – the country or place where the weapon originated or was first manufactured.
:::Why do you invent alternative meaning that it DOESN'T HAVE? And then not follow your own logic by inventing Spain as the origin of the Piranha V?
:::"General Dynamics European Land Systems S.L. (GDELS), '''through its Switzerland-based subsidiary GDELS-Mowag''', has been notified by the Ministry of Defense of Denmark that the PIRANHA 5 Armoured Infantry Fighting Vehicle has been selected as the new armoured personnel carrier (APC) for the Danish Armed Forces."
:::Meaning? The subsidiary in Switzerland signed a contract, informed then its higher up group. Guess what, that group then informed GDLS in the US who then informed GD.
:::Yet, in all of that, nothing is either Spanish OR American. Fabrice Ram (talk) 15:53, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
::::MADRID –General Dynamics European Land Systems S.L. (GDELS), through its Switzerland-based subsidiary GDELS-Mowag
::::As in GDELS are the once responsible acting through a subsidiary which is why the contract is got signed in Madrid NobuttoO (talk) 19:04, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::The subsidiarygets the contract, it's made AND designed AND contracted in Switzerland, cut those alternatives. You said contract (which is wrong), and no you invent someting elssr. Do you hate Switzerland? Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:30, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::There is 0 consistency on the Danish page with the origins, and you focus on the clearest Swiss product?
:::::*Mowag Eagle V? Swiss or "Spanish"? That project NEVER included Spain. It's based on the Mowag Duro, a Swiss vehicle. And guess what, again, the contract is signed with??? SWITZERLAND. <br>https://www.gdels.com/en/media/news/gdels-awarded-chf-46-million-follow-on-order-for-56-patrol-and-1-reconnaissance-open-eagle-4x4-vehicles-pujhh2ej573240t9xwd1gd2v
:::::*Piranha V? As already confirmed, it is SWISS. The contract (which was YOUR metric is Swiss). Yes, the group communicates from its headquarter. Yet, it's the subsidiary that signed the contract, designed, made the vehicle. <br>As we don't agree, what does your (Danish) government say about the Piranha V? Is it Swiss or Spanish? <br> who won the tender? GDELS SBS (which is the production part of GDELS in Spain? Or GDELS-Mowag? <br> https://www.fmn.dk/da/nyheder/2015/2015/wammen-forsvaret-skal-have-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogne/ <br>https://www.forsvaret.dk/da/nyhedsarkiv/harstaben/2015/piranha-5-er-harens-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogn/ <br>It is SWISS.
:::::Now, let's go further on the lack of consistency:
:::::* WHY are all the SIG products American? L&O Group is the parent company, based in Germany.
:::::* The other way around, the latest Colt rifle became Czech?
:::::Origin, related to weapons are defines as "the country or place where the weapon originated or was first manufactured."
:::::That's the standard used for weapons all over Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_weapon Fabrice Ram (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::RECONNAISSANCE Open EAGLE was a vehicle(Open-top configuration of Eagle V) that was tested by FMI(DALO) as it made sense due to parts commonality with the standard Eagle V already in service but never entered service as III/GHR found it to noicy and isnt in Danish service. The Eagle V in service where part of the deal for the full replacement of the M113G4DK in danish service
::::::The contract for the PIRANHA and Eagle V lies with GDELS and was signed in Spain with GDELS as they are the buisness unit while GDELS-Mowag is a development and manufacturing unit.
::::::I agree with you on L&O Group was also there originally issue is IP temp users, its switched from US to German to Swiss multiple times.
::::::Yes for article regarding the weapons themselves where where they are manufactured is actually relevant NobuttoO (talk) 12:25, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::::WHO CARES WHERE A CONTRACT IS SIGNED.
:::::::IT IS SWISS. Fabrice Ram (talk) 13:08, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Anyone that cares about strategic independence and dosent have some nationalist boner for equipment manufactured in their country
::::::::There is a reason the ARGUS FS NVG is still marked as Greek despite Denmark having gotten manufacturing rights for it
::::::::Should prett much all Gerber tools also be marked as Chinese origin because most of their manufacturing capacity is located in China?
::::::::If people are intrested in the nitty gritty details about an exact platform, vehicle or whatever then then they have a link directly to its main page where they can get all the manufacturing details available NobuttoO (talk) 14:23, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::And you're wrong, the group was informed through its subsidiary of a contract.
:::::::The contract is with the subsidiary, which is GDELS Mowag.
:::::::And AGAIN, it is IRRELEVANT, the origin of the system IS NOT the location of a contract, has never been, will never be, is not considered that way by the Danish government, is not considered that way by anyone. Fabrice Ram (talk) 13:13, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::By the danish goverment its considered American, Nicolai Wammen the Defence Minister at the time refeered to it as a deal with American General Dynamics while mannufacturing would take place in Switzerland
::::::::https://www.altinget.dk/forsvar/artikel/284336-piranha-5-bliver-danmarks-nye-pmv
::::::::Current issues with the US is one of the major contributing political factors for the transition to the Patria XA-300 besides the personels issues with the Piranha V platform and the overall strategic shift to IFVs for troop transports NobuttoO (talk) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::IT IS NOT !
:::::::::Why are you taking links from??? NOT THE GOVERNMENT? Fabrice Ram (talk) 14:16, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::Its a direct quote from Nicolai Wammen the Defence Minister of Denmark at the time..... but im just readding multiple origins at this point as i cant stand the nationalist cringe fest NobuttoO (talk) 14:25, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::Why do you feel the need to invent origins?
:::::::::::You're the one creating that situation. You invented an interpretation for "origin" that includes only you.
:::::::::::And you're trying to divert it, while having 0 consistency. Why? Mowag is Swiss, the Mowag Eagle and the Piranha are both Swiss, all the variants. The fact that the headquarter of GDELS is in Spain is completely irrelevant, same for where the headquarter of GD is.
:::::::::::And all the links that I sent you that are BY THE DANISH GOVERNMENT and the manufacturer confirm all of that.
:::::::::::* ''"Piranha 5 from Switzerland will be the Danish Armed Forces' new armoured personnel carrier."'' <br>https://www.fmn.dk/da/nyheder/2015/2015/wammen-forsvaret-skal-have-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogne/
:::::::::::* ''"The Danish Army's new armoured personnel carrier will be the Piranha 5 from Swiss General Dynamics."'' <br>https://www.forsvaret.dk/da/nyhedsarkiv/harstaben/2015/piranha-5-er-harens-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogn/
:::::::::::* GDELS-MOWAG <br>https://www.gdels.com/en/media/news/gdels-awarded-chf-46-million-follow-on-order-for-56-patrol-and-1-reconnaissance-open-eagle-4x4-vehicles-pujhh2ej573240t9xwd1gd2v
:::::::::::Fabrice Ram (talk) 15:15, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::Im not innventing anything Mowag has not been an independent business unit for 23 years. It was purcheased in 2003 and rolled into General Dynamics European Land Systems in Spain which is the European buisness unit of American defence contractor of General Dynamics.
::::::::::::Mowag is a manufacturing unit along side GDELS Austria GmbH, GDELS Deutschland GmbH and Santa Bárbara Sistemas.
::::::::::::GDELS is the business unit in charge that is then owned General Dynamics NobuttoO (talk) 15:31, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::And?
:::::::::::::Is the Pandur Spanish now?
:::::::::::::GDELS-Mowag is OWNED by a group. So what? Each company of the group is producing its own products, and sometimes, a new local company is made to produce those products.
:::::::::::::The ORIGIN is not "where is the headquarter" question, it's where it was developed and made.
:::::::::::::The Piranha is NOT American.
:::::::::::::The Canadian LAV is NOT American.
:::::::::::::Just like you were happy to keep Sweden as the origin for the CV90, which WAS correct, but you changed it.
:::::::::::::Origin = where it comes from. The Piranha is Swiss, the Eagle is Swiss. It's not magically American or magically Spanish, no matter who owns the subsidiary. And yes, the subsidiaries are managed partially independently. Fabrice Ram (talk) 15:36, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Multi origin is normal just see as exampels:
::::::::::::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_United_States_Army
::::::::::::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Romanian_Armed_Forces
::::::::::::::Where equipment is purcheased matters in terms of dicussion regarding strategic independence
::::::::::::::You also removed sourced additions regarding new body armour which is completly unrelated and is the definition of vandalism. NobuttoO (talk) 15:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Multi-origin when IT HAS a multi-origin.
:::::::::::::::FN SCAR? Employees of FN USA and FN Belgium worked on it.
:::::::::::::::No employee in Spain or in the US worked on the Piranha V on its development.
:::::::::::::::How do I know? If GD USA worked on it, it would not be ITAR free and Denmark would require a US approval to export any of it. The Piranha requires a Swiss authorization to re-export it.
:::::::::::::::Mutli-origin? YES. WHEN IT IS RELEVANT. The CV90 is NOT British. The Piranha IS NOT American.
:::::::::::::::You can discuss for the Skyranger, because the radar is German, and the canon might not be produced by Rheinmetall Italia. But the System for Denmark is Swiss developed AND made.
:::::::::::::::And the vandalism comes from you. You are reinventing the definition of origin EVERYTIME.
:::::::::::::::And strategic independence is a topic of strategic independence. The Piranha is Swiss, with Swiss parts, with German or Swedish engines, and has 0 American parts. So stop reinventing the meaning of origin. Origin in here is not an interpretation of strategy. It's a fact. And Denmark chose the Patria 6x6 because it was the best product in its category, at a cheap price, with multiple allies buying it making it cheap for high quality. But just like the Piranha, it's EUROPEAN, not American in any way shape or form.
:::::::::::::::And guess what. The Stryker is made partially in Switzerland (all the rolling train) and in Canada. The Stryker is assembled in Canada, Lonon Ontario. The USA is doing what? The final assembly, what you said was irrelevant. Fabrice Ram (talk) 16:05, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::CV90 is contracted to BAE a British company and there im just covering my bases so people dont begin with favoratism acusations
::::::::::::::::The contract for Piranha was signed in Spain with the Spanish BU
::::::::::::::::Vandalism is unspecified unsourced reverts, it was changed to Spain due to information provided by you but it seems your issue is more that it isnt Swiss than what actually stated in the contract. Which nationalistic editing and why origin as a whole was removed on most airforce pages.
::::::::::::::::The deletion of actual equipment is more than a disagreement on origin and earns you a warning. If you continue I will be making a report
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:::::::::::::::::It is IRRELEVANT where the origin of the group is for the ORIGIN.
:::::::::::::::::Once it's where it is signed, once it's the group.
:::::::::::::::::STOP WITH INVENTING THE MEANING OF ORIGIN.
:::::::::::::::::Piranha? Eagle? Swiss.
:::::::::::::::::CV90? Swedish.
:::::::::::::::::New assault rifle? Canada.
:::::::::::::::::Pontoon bridges? German.
:::::::::::::::::WHY DO YOU INVENT FAKE REALITIES? Fabrice Ram (talk) 16:21, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::I am not and it is not irrelevant again you have however deleted body armour M/26 because it more relevant that i made the addition than actually making a better page NobuttoO (talk) 16:23, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::No, that's what you're doing. Stop inventing false information, the Piranha has nothing American, otherwise it would be under ITAR regulations.
:::::::::::::::::::Stop that immediately, you're the vandal in that case, you're changeing meaning every 3 explanations. Fabrice Ram (talk) 16:25, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::Im not ive been quite consistent and civil with you. Even readded multi-origin as a compromise. You have instead chosen to attack me at every turn NobuttoO (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::1. Do you know that you're not answering where this discussion is relevant? The talk page of the Danish Army?
:::::::::::::::::::::2. Civil is not changing 5 times what origin means and still continuing with inventions.
:::::::::::::::::::::3. I'm tired of changing to facts everytime, when you bring no facts but your personal interpretation, coming out of nowhere of what origin means.
:::::::::::::::::::::4. What is American or Spanish about the GDELS-Mowag products? NOTHING.
:::::::::::::::::::::You know what I put as mutli-origins? Denmark + Switzerland for the Piranha V. Why? Designed and partially made in Switzerland, and finished in Denmark for the majority of the Piranha.
:::::::::::::::::::::Plus, you invent again facts. Who signed the contract for the Pirahna V? As I sent you mutliple time? GDELS Mowag, as said by the group GDELS itself. Where does the Danish government consider that Piranha come from? Switzerland. Who do they ask if they can re-export? Switzerland.
:::::::::::::::::::::*"Piranha 5 from Switzerland will be the Danish Armed Forces' new armoured personnel carrier."<br>https://www.fmn.dk/da/nyheder/2015/2015/wammen-forsvaret-skal-have-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogne/
:::::::::::::::::::::*"The Danish Army's new armoured personnel carrier will be the Piranha 5 from Swiss General Dynamics."<br>https://www.forsvaret.dk/da/nyhedsarkiv/harstaben/2015/piranha-5-er-harens-nye-pansrede-mandskabsvogn/
:::::::::::::::::::::*GDELS-MOWAG<br>https://www.gdels.com/en/media/news/gdels-awarded-chf-46-million-follow-on-order-for-56-patrol-and-1-reconnaissance-open-eagle-4x4-vehicles-pujhh2ej573240t9xwd1gd2v
:::::::::::::::::::::So yes. Want to put your invented origins?
:::::::::::::::::::::Then write "designed and made" + country first and then write something like group...
:::::::::::::::::::::Because otherwise, you imply that those products are designed or made somehow in those countries, and THAT IS WRONG. The origin of a product is where it is designed or made. End of the story, and which law applies.
:::::::::::::::::::::The American law applies to none of those products. Same, the Sig P365 is an American design and production, the group does not matter.
:::::::::::::::::::::The pontonn bridges are made and designed in Germany. So you want to use the group? Be very precise on the fact that it's only the group, and where it was designed and made. Fabrice Ram (talk) 16:36, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Stop removing the Piranha HMC 10x10 from Piranha V



The HMC 10x10 is a configuration that exists for both Piranha III, IV and V just because the Swiss went with the IV HMC to match their IV fleet and other nations havent bought III HMC or V HMC dosent mean those generations of HMC stops existing

From GDELS:
"All PIRANHA variants share a common chassis and drivetrain concept, along with many similar sub-components" as in drivetrain is not specific to generation
https://www.gdels.com/en/products/wheeled-vehicles/piranha

PIR III HMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawRKYdC9tQ NobuttoO (talk) 10:59, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

:WHAT?
:The Piranha III is not a "HMC"...
:Yes, the drivetrain is not the same from one generation to the next. The weight it carries is not the same, and the torque is not the same, so all the drivetrain parts are different.
:For the Piranha V, it doesn't exist, it is an offer, that countries are free to purchase. It's called "variants" and not "potential variants". Fabrice Ram (talk) 14:34, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
::HMC is a configuration for the PIRANHA family as a whole that has existed since the PIRANHA III its neither an IV or V GDELS as whole dont even consider them seperate vehicles NobuttoO (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

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Vandalism of List of equipment of the Royal Danish Army due to ongoing origin disagreement



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Your removal of new body armour M/26 sourced to danish DALO is vandalism NobuttoO (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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I have seen it necessary to make a report as it seems I can come to no actual compromise with you

I have edited with soruces provided by you, that wasent acceptable to you

Ive added multi origin that again wasent acceptable to you

Ive tried to have a calm and civil discussion with you and you have in return accused me of "trying to make wikipedia worse", "making things up" and attacked my grammer in a language that isnt my own

And now the recent vandalism of sourced material just because it an edit mad by me NobuttoO (talk) 16:54, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

:You're not being consistant at all, and your multi-origins are wrong.
:There is already a discussion page on origins on the page in question, you refuse to participate in the discussion with other people.
:And you refuse to give ANY source that is relevant to the discussion in question. Your "facts" are your interpretation with 0 source. Fabrice Ram (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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Nomination of :Thales RapidFire ↗ for deletion


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Belgian Army Ground Master 200 Multi Mission radar



You added the information that Belgium will procure 14 GM200 alpha radars from France. However, it has been specified by the Belgian Defense minister ↗ that these will be the Dutch variant Ground Master 200 Multi Mission ↗ (GM200 MM/C). Thanks for your additions!


Mahna Mahna 55 (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

:My bad, changing it then Fabrice Ram (talk) 22:29, 9 July 2026 (UTC)