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FYI

I emailed Connie Boyd using the address on her website so that she could send me scans of some of the key documents we can't access. I note that you don't allow emails within the system here but I do, so if you want to contact me that way I could share anything she sends. No problem if not! Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:52, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

:I noticed she seemed to be putting stuff online, we can't link it but we can read it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, this seems to be developing on the talk page, where I've just given her some advice I hope she follows. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
::Hello, just checking in. At Mike Turnbull's suggestion I have provided original article content in a Google Drive file: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1njS8g56KFVR952CXeLHJsuTBslTzN9Ok?usp=share_link
::Good news, my book won the Women's Literature Award at the Next Generation Indie Awards 2026. I will attend the ceremony and the ALA convention in June in Chicago. Magical Women (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Congratulations! I'm unlikely to look at this draft in the near future. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:18, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
::::Thank you so much for all your expertise, help and support. I am very grateful and very sorry you will be unable to look at the draft in the future. Thank you once again. Magical Women (talk) 12:15, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
:Hello Mike, I am checking in. I uploaded additional original articles to the google drive file I created for Wikipedia content: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1njS8g56KFVR952CXeLHJsuTBslTzN9Ok?usp=share_link
:I have good news, my book just won the Women's Literature category at Next Generation Indie Book Awards 2026, I will attend the ceremony in Chicago in June as well as the ALA convention. Thank you in advance for your help and expertise. Magical Women (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
::@Magical Women That will be very helpful to establishing your notability, as defined by Wikipedia, since we have an article about that Award: Next Generation Indie Book Awards ↗. A secondary source would be useful to back up the primary one at their website. Do you know of any newspaper coverage mentioning you winning? Maybe we'll see that in a couple of weeks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:17, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much Mike. If anything else pops up I will let you know. I am attending the awards ceremony in June. Magical Women (talk) 13:45, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Princebarackalibarrydaddyobamaiii (19:39, 9 May 2026)

Hello how do I eat wikipedia --Princebarackalibarrydaddyobamaiii (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Princebarackalibarrydaddyobamaiii I have no idea! But if you're interested in EDITing WP, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ is a good start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:54, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
::Try it ala Chicago-style hot dog ↗, hold the onions and add well drained sauerkraut. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:56, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

A special type of dog

GGS have you seen the story on Corgi accuses Matcha founders of deleting Wikipedia article, and another on a counter suit by Matcha? They are on ''The Insurers'' by ''Reuters ↗'' a website I always have problems with. See also Corgi (insurance company) ↗ and the earlier AfD of Corgy (company) ↗. As I understand it, it's about using AI in the insurance business. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:46, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

:I tried to access that one earlier today, but couldn't. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:50, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
::OK. Pastrami ↗ for you. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:00, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Mmm... Meat... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
::@Cakelot1 Do you have access, or did you add it anyway? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:24, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
:::No, just added it based on the free snip-it, which at least confirmed it was about the given company/recreated article. Cakelot1 ☞️ ''talk'' 18:32, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
::::@Gråbergs Gråa Sång, while I still haven't found a way to access the article, there is this linked-in summary ↗ (presumably AI generated) by ''The Insurer'' which at least gives an impression of Corgi's accusation here. Cakelot1 ☞️ ''talk'' 19:01, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::@Cakelot1 Judging by that, you may have violated WP:OUTING ↗ by adding that article on WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:00, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
::::::@Gråbergs Gråa Sång, Yeah, you're probably right (I suppose that's the problem with adding an article you haven't read). I've removed it from the article's talk, feel free to redact the above link if you think it's needed. Cakelot1 ☞️ ''talk'' 09:13, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::I have discovered that in the past. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:46, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from KellLeighMartin (01:29, 14 May 2026)

HI there I want to create a company information page for our company called Kensana Health Inc. Im not sure I set up my Wikipedia account properly for this? --KellLeighMartin (talk) 01:29, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

:@KellLeighMartin You have registered your account, so far so good. Now you have a bit of a challenge. I have no idea if a WP-acceptable article on your company ''can'' be made, so I'm going to post some relevant links:
:*WP:NCORP ↗, what kind of sources you would need if an article is to be accepted.
:*WP:COI ↗, your situation
:*WP:YFA ↗, your first article
:*WP:TUTORIAL ↗, it's hard to edit WP without knowing how to edit WP
:*Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia ↗, more advice
:If you're going to work on this, start with going to your userpage, KellLeighMartin ↗, and write something like "I work for Kensana Health Inc, and I'm here to try to make a WP-article about our company." Hope this helps some! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 03:46, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Wrendwyer (07:56, 17 May 2026)

How do I write a brand new article about a topic or person --Wrendwyer (talk) 07:56, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Wrendwyer Hello! Making an acceptable WP-article without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.
:That said, your first hurdle is "'''Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?'''" Start with reading WP:BACKWARD ↗. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:YFA ↗. If your choice of topic fails WP:N ↗, the article will not be accepted. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:04, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Bhavishjan (20:36, 17 May 2026)

Hello,
I am facing an issue while uploading images from my PC. It says "You don't have permission to upload this file". Can you guide me on this, what makes me eligible to upload an image on my draft article. --Bhavishjan (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Bhavishjan Sorry, I know too little about that. Try WP:TEAHOUSE ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:47, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Harrybarnet (15:33, 18 May 2026)

I wanted to create a page about a person/busines who is well cited online. They are quoted in several articles in the New York Times, The Guardian and are listed as a lender to major museum exhibitions. Any insight on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. I saw their name listed in the George Condo show in Paris and happened to search online and found they aren't listed on wikipedia yet --Harrybarnet (talk) 15:33, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Harrybarnet Hello! Making an acceptable WP-article without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.

:That said, your first hurdle is "'''Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?'''" Start with reading WP:BACKWARD ↗. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:YFA ↗. A NYT article that just quotes the company won't help much, what you want is a NYT article ''about the company.'' If your choice of topic fails WP:N ↗, the article will not be accepted. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:53, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from VictorBirdSong (15:15, 20 May 2026)

Hey Grabergs, when does an article become to self promoting and not neutral? --VictorBirdSong (talk) 15:15, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

:@VictorBirdSong Depends. WP:PUFFERY ↗, long strings of positive quotes, sometimes with poor sources, stuff like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Puddynose (18:17, 20 May 2026)

Puddynose is my user name. I would like to write a wiki page for a magazine name Irish America
Please help. --Puddynose (talk) 18:17, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Puddynose Hello! Making an acceptable WP-article without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.
:That said, your first hurdle is "'''Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?'''" Start with reading WP:BACKWARD ↗. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:YFA ↗. If your choice of topic fails WP:N ↗, the article will not be accepted. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 03:56, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

Everett Lee

Hi! I saw that you made some changes in the article above. What did I do wrong? I have 200 somewhat edits, so I'm quite new to this!

All the best! Singer80 (talk) 07:46, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Singer80 I didn't edit that article because I saw you doing anything wrong, I haven't checked your edits there at all. I ''did'' find the article because I looked at your talkpage again. And I hope you won't feel that was creepy WP:STALKING ↗ on my part.
:But, you should be aware of WP:COI ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:07, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
::Can we write in Swedish here or prefererably Englsh? Nothing is creepy! I'm glad you reached out!
::Jag gör vad jag kan! Singer80 (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Ah. Jag märkte precis att Everett hade en svensk connection. Vi kan, men eftersom vi är på en-WP, bör vi använda lokalbefolkningens språk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:14, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
::::Absolut! Att jag tar ett visst intresse för detta är att han var min far!
::::But alright; we’ll switch to English again then! 😊 ~2026-30680-72 ↗ (talk) 08:16, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
::::: Absolut! Att jag tar ett visst intresse för detta är att han var min far!
::::: But alright; we’ll switch to English again then!
::::Singer80 (talk) 08:17, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

{{tl|Press}}ing question

Is there an equivalent of {{tl|Press}} for social media posts? See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#RfC: Consistency in chosen and former names in biographies ↗ and the thread above it for context. A TikTok rarely deserves to be memorialized on a talk page in this manner but this one kicked of substantive content discussions on multiple pages whose content was criticized, such as Talk:Muhammad Ali#Use of Slave Name vs. Chosen Name ↗, in addition to the RfC. —Myceteae&zwj;🍄‍🟫 (talk) 21:30, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Myceteae Not that I know, see Template_talk:Press#Mentions_in_user-generated_content ↗. You could perhaps put it on Wikipedia:Wikipedia in blogs ↗, that would make a kind of sense. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:07, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
::Aha! There must be something I the air. Thanks for pointing me to this current discussion. —Myceteae&zwj;🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Presentacion Campos (13:47, 28 May 2026)

Good afternoon! I would like to make a trsnslation to put my page that is originally in english into hungarian..I do.not find the place where to do it? --Presentacion Campos (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

:@Presentacion Campos That would be https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kezd%C5%91lap. If you want to know more about how things work on hu-WP, you have to ask there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:58, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Question from Lucky Goodness on Emulator ↗ (20:10, 31 May 2026)

how do I download an emulator --Lucky Goodness (talk) 20:10, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

:I have no idea. Google it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from MindBlownSouth (09:15, 12 June 2026)

Hi can you help me edit the new page I created about Peter Layton. An artist I recently discovered after listening 🎧 to Desert island discs on BBC radio 4. I noticed he didn't have a Wikipedia page even tho he is a very well known artist (in the art world, even Elton John has one of his pieces) --MindBlownSouth (talk) 09:15, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

:@MindBlownSouth Hello! I took a look at Draft:Peter Layton ↗.
:Making an acceptable WP-article without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.
:That said, your first hurdle is "'''Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?'''" Googling a little, I think it can, but you need to change your approach and do some reading and more research. It seems your links are all WP:ABOUTSELF ↗, written by Layton or his associates. You've then WP:COPYPASTE ↗d that stuff into your draft. But as a Wikipedian, you're not here to repeat what Layton has to say about himself, we're not here to "sell" him.
:You need WP-better sources, see WP:GNG ↗. I recommend looking at https://www.google.com/search?num=10&sca_esv=a0947f9821f2bd45&rlz=1C1SQJL_svSE832SE832&sxsrf=ANbL-n7fqzmj1nSaaHOEJ5pKRurnWACcpw:1781256832440&q=%22Peter+Layton%22+glass&tbm=nws&source=lnms&fbs=ADc_l-YGrpJMQtvjQ6h14rj-dfIrUYbG4z7nn6dFrHwWgTmsGlPR9xf8atzm-ajJFk8q278s_jM133kZuZm_VA4jO-SHyUgRhUy09KS8GO97CcnAauD-73unBXpAl3NUZg2eSJHcgf9kNV3fWDllaIx4AclrDTvcV-e3uwKz0l4m1m8OiRm5DrZaDk2T8ijAXr5Wd5Dhgci0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi8-oDmsoGVAxXLCBAIHUZ5KHAQ0pQJegQIERAB&biw=1707&bih=781&dpr=1.13 ↗https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Peter+Layton%22+glass&num=10&sca_esv=a0947f9821f2bd45&rlz=1C1SQJL_svSE832SE832&biw=1707&bih=781&udm=36&sxsrf=ANbL-n7DVWIrQNlIw7_4IUnGMlhLIJGjbA:1781256837679&source=lnms&fbs=ADc_l-YGrpJMQtvjQ6h14rj-dfIrUYbG4z7nn6dFrHwWgTmsGlPR9xf8atzm-ajJFk8q278s_jM133kZuZm_VA4jO-SHyUgRhUy09KS8GO97CcnAauD-73unBXpAl3NUZg2eSJHcgf9kNV3fWDllaIx4AclrDTvcV-e3uwKz0l4m1m8OiRm5DrZaDk2T8ijAXr5Wd5Dhgci0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi10sDosoGVAxWrIxAIHbHhO7QQ0pQJegQIAxAP ↗ He's had a long career, so if you can check in newspaper archives, that could help you further, but what you find on Google might be enough. Read the WP:RS ↗ you find and ''summarize them in your own words.''
:If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really.
:Hope this helps some! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:57, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
::hi I understand but can someone help me create a page for this artist that complies with Wikipedia? I have no idea how to create a legitimate & accurate page that complies with the above.
::Yours hopefully, Luke (MindBlownSouth) MindBlownSouth (talk) 10:10, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@MindBlownSouth Not impossible, but you have to get lucky and find someone who's interested in the subject and wants to spend some time on it, WP is a hobby. You can try asking in places like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arts ↗, but it's likely you'll have to do the heavy lifting yourself. The immediate problem with your draft is the WP:COPYVIO ↗ (big no-no around here), otherwise you could have worked on over days and weeks at your own pace, until you wanted to submit it. More guidance at Help:Your first article ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:29, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Shivgi291025 (03:38, 15 June 2026)

Hi there, I had recently requested to change the title of our company page to HBA/Hirsch Bedner Associates, however I see Wikipedia has changed it to HBA(company) and redirected to HBA/Hirsch Bedner Associates.

Is there a way i can just have 1 page with Hirsch Bedner Associates as the name please instead of 2 pages now --Shivgi291025 (talk) 03:38, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Shivgi291025 Per Talk:HBA_(company)#Requested_move_to_Hirsch_Bedner_Associates ↗ it seems you found the right process. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
::Hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I have requested Wikipedia to revert back to the original title of Hirsch Bedner Associates for its Wikipedia page, however, it doesnt seem to answer my query? May i seek your guidance on how I can request to revert back to original please Shivgi291025 (talk) 15:19, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
::Hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, the page has now been updated to Hirsch Bedner Associates.
::I wanted to ask if Wikipedia allows us to rename the page as '''(HBA) Hirsch Bedner Associates''' instead? Does having a bracketted name cause any issues ? I wanted to seek your advice on this prior to requesting the name change of the page. Would greatly appreciate your guidance on this! Shivgi291025 (talk) 05:01, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Shivgi291025 The basic WP-approach is that the title of an article should be the WP:COMMONNAME ↗, which isn't necessarily the official name (or what the subject prefers). I haven't tried to check what that is, but I doubt '''(HBA) Hirsch Bedner Associates''' is it, and parenthesis aren't generally (if ever) used like that on WP, HBA (song) ↗ is an example of how "we" do it. '''HBA ↗''' is "taken" so one alternative could be HBA (company) ↗ ''if'' HBA is the WP:COMMONNAME ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I appreciate the guidance and advice! May I ask if another alternative could be '''HBA Hirsch Bedner Associates''' instead or maybe HBA (Hirsch Bedner Associates) ? Shivgi291025 (talk) 06:44, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::You can suggest them (as in start another "Requested move"), but IMO they are unlikely to be accepted. Pinging @Maltazarian if you wish to comment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:50, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Yeah it's going to need another RM, and no I don't think one would be likely to succeed.
::::::Editors who have the ability to move pages (admins and page movers ↗) have no more right than any other editor to ''decide '' the title. There is a responsibility to not move pages without consensus (see WP:CONSENSUS ↗) if there is reason to believe other editors might disagree with a move. This applies here, as shortly after the title was changed from '''Hirsch Bedner Associates''' to '''HBA/Hirsch Bedner Associates''', @CambridgeBayWeather saw the new title and, after looking into it, changed it to '''HBA (company)''' and leaving a summary indicating they felt it did not abide by WP:COMMONNAME ↗.
::::::It's unlikely to succeed because readers are unlikely to think of it's name as being the initials of the full name and the full name combined; it is significantly more likely for readers to think of the company as either being called '''HBA''' or '''Hirsch Bedner Associates'''. This matters because Wikipedia's article title naming policy ↗ prioritizes making titles match reader expectations as much as possible over the titles being technically correct or "official" (see WP:OFFICIAL ↗). This is in order to make it easier for readers to find what they're looking for and to avoid unnecessary confusion (for example, Switzerland ↗, not Swiss Confederation ↗).
::::::That said, the article is allowed to let readers immediately know what the official/trade name of the company is, and any alternative names, including official/trade names such as HBA/Hirsch Bedner Associates ↗, are allowed to exist as redirects ↗ to the company's article, allowing it to accessed by searching for that name. ⹃Maltazarian ᚾparley<math>\lor</math>investigate ↗ᛅ 08:21, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::@Maltazarian thank you for the feedback! Just to clarify, in summary, does this mean that we should just stick to Hirsch Bedner Associates for now instead of changing the name to (HBA) Hirsch Bedner Associates or maybe HBA (Hirsch Bedner Associates)?
::::::Am I right in also understanding that we cant change to solely HBA as the name is already taken and when we changed to HBA/Hirsch Bedner Associates, it created a sub page and also changed to HBA(company) which was because the name formartting didnt match WP:COMMONNAME ↗ ? Shivgi291025 (talk) 06:58, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::You're both welcome to keep talking here on my talkpage if you like, but consider continuing at Talk:Hirsch Bedner Associates ↗, it's possible that other interested editors will see it and join in. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:26, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Got it ! @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, why is the Hirsch Bedner Associates Wikipedia page suddenly nominated for deletion? Can we please stop the deletion and also advise on how we can prevent it from being deleted. it is quite urgent Shivgi291025 (talk) 05:50, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Because one editor thought it should be deleted and started the appropriate discussion. You are welcome to participate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hirsch Bedner Associates ↗, standard is that the discussion will last for at least a week, then it will be closed by an uninvolved editor. If you can, bring the best 3-5 WP:GNG ↗-good sources you can think of, your hurdle is WP:N ↗. Help:My article got nominated for deletion! ↗ has some guidance. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:15, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::I have added my reply to the discussion. They have deleted the entire Notable Projects section from the Hirsch Bedner Associates wikipedia page.
::::::::::Could you see if my reply in the deletion discussion is correct? Also, can you advise how I can get back my notable projects sections as it is completely gone now Shivgi291025 (talk) 06:26, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::@Gråbergs Gråa Sång please see my reply above, apologies that I missed out on tagging you Shivgi291025 (talk) 06:27, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::You never have to tag/@ someone ''at their own talkpage'', it has no extra effect. ''Me'' "pinging" ''you'' on this page has an effect, WP:NOTIFICATION ↗. You do that in other discussions, like you did with Pppery at the afd, then it "works".
::::::::::::The Notable Projects thing is something you can discuss with the other editor at Talk:Hirsch Bedner Associates ↗, but since the afd is ongoing, it may not be time well spent for now.
::::::::::::I'll make a comment in the afd. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:02, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I just saw your comments on the deletion talk page, i have come up with 3 to 5 new article links below, would these be alright? I want to make sure they are alright before I comment on the discussion thread again
:::::::::::::https://www.traveldailymedia.com/hba-tops-hospitality-design-list-expands-globally/
:::::::::::::https://inclovermag.com/2026/06/23/hba-ranks-no-1-on-interior-designs-2026-top-100-giants-hospitality-list-and-opens-four-new-studios-across-three-continents/
:::::::::::::https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-realestate/2026/03/19/M4R57VUN6BARNLA7WQBDHVIUZE/
:::::::::::::https://www.sleepermagazine.com/stories/projects/hba-san-francisco-delivers-art-deco-interiors-at-sofitel-new-york/
:::::::::::::https://www.sleepermagazine.com/stories/projects/hba-announces-plans-for-emea-projects/ Shivgi291025 (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Otherwise, maybe you could recommend me some good sources if possible? @Gråbergs Gråa Sång Shivgi291025 (talk) 07:58, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::You have to make your own judgement on these. If I find something of interest, I'll mention it in the afd. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:00, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Alright noted, for now I can try finding 3 to 5 good sources and share in the discussion page. After that, the editors would review it and make a decision based on that, I assume?
::::::::::::::::Since it is my first time editing Wikipedia page, I am quite concerned and would not like to lose the content on our page, or even our page Shivgi291025 (talk) 11:04, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Pretty much, yeah. Fwiw, I appreciate your effort to follow the WP:COI ↗/WP:PAID ↗ rules and adapting to the environment. Perhaps you'll get interested enough to start editing for fun as well. I have a resource I will check, the WP:LIBRARY ↗, but it's down at the moment. A couple of essays related to your situation:
:::::::::::::::::*Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia ↗
:::::::::::::::::*Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing ↗
:::::::::::::::::Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:24, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Hi Greg, thank you for the guidance! I read through Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia ↗ article, and I understand that I shouldn't have edited directly onto the Hirsch Bedner Associates page, but instead done it through the company's talk page.
::::::::::::::::::However, since now the mistake has been made, I am trying to see how I could revive the page.
::::::::::::::::::I have found some links that could support. Could I send these to the deletion discussion page and whom can I tag when contributing to the discussion, how do I contribute to the discussion constructively to hope for my appeal for the page to be retained?
::::::::::::::::::*If I may also add, I noticed other design firms such as Gensler, HOK, Perkins&Will having citations to their own website pages, how does that work? I am genuinely confused (and trying to understand), as I do not want to make the same mistakes again when adding the content to the Hirsch Bedner Associates Wikipedia page.
::::::::::::::::::Some links I found that support on the longstanding presence of Hirsch Bedner Associates. Kindly advise if these may be worthwhile to add.
::::::::::::::::::https://legacy.newh.org/app/uploads/Chapters/SanFrancisco/2017/sfran_2016TopIDInterview-HBA.pdf
::::::::::::::::::https://www.hospitality-interiors.net/articles/interviews/hba-architecture-the-skys-the-limit/
::::::::::::::::::https://www.traveldailymedia.com/hba-tops-hospitality-design-list-expands-globally/?__cf_chl_f_tk=eacg4ltBoEHAbEdH4KMXtEin7ksmUrQuKHTK7D7js6I-1782743710-1.0.1.1-6ImgXSGxvjPANq5vtduvxlz7Pi5P4x4l69D6SHA5KdI
::::::::::::::::::https://www.bestinteriordesigners.eu/top-interior-designers-hirsch-bedner-associates-2/
::::::::::::::::::https://www.bocadolobo.com/en/inspiration-and-ideas/hba-spreading-the-word-luxury-around-the-globe/
::::::::::::::::::https://www.traveldailynews.asia/asia-pacific/hirsch-bedner-associates-launches-new-division-hba-resort/
::::::::::::::::::https://olli.csumb.edu/assets/II_Dawkins.pdf
::::::::::::::::::https://minottilondon.com/largest-interior-design-firms/
::::::::::::::::::Thank you so much for your time and advice, I really appreciate it Shivgi291025 (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Wikipedia is very uneven in quality. We have a ton of rules, but one of those is that you don't have know the rules to start editing. Editors, who mostly are hobbyists, pick what they want to spend their time on. There are plenty of articles here that needs improvement and perhaps deletion. This will happen when/if someone notices and decide to spend some time on it. Is it possible articles on other companies are in the same shape as the HBA, have been edited by employees/PR-people and could also be deleted? Heck yes, COI-people edit WP all the time, and the Wikipedians deal with it when they notice. Sometimes we notice because media notice it first (but the other way around is more common), see some examples at Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia ↗. This https://slate.com/technology/2019/06/north-fake-wikipedia-image.html ↗ is one of my favorite stories.
:::::::::::::::::::On citing own websites: this is fine, to an extent: WP:ABOUTSELF ↗. We can use HBA publications for name of CEO, where is the HQ, etc. Not we are the greatest, we won these awards, these are our best works. BUT: on the question "should WP have an article on this company/person/whatever" (WP:N ↗), your own websites are irrelevant, only independent coverage matters. Hope that makes a kind of sense.
:::::::::::::::::::I'm not going to go through your list of links, but take the first one, it's an interview with one of your people, that's not independent and won't help with the afd. https://olli.csumb.edu/assets/II_Dawkins.pdf ↗ is absolutely independent, but it says very little about HBA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:47, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::Hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång. am I right in understanding that right now, what our page lacks the credibility to make people believe that Hirsch Bedner Associates has been around for 60 years and right now, we need to prove that we have independent articles (not influenced & contributed by HBA and republished)
::::::::::::::::::::Also, how do I know how many days are left for the AFD to close?
::::::::::::::::::::Currently, I intend to place the articles found that seem independent directly onto the AFD so that other editors also have a view of the potential articles on Hirsch Bedner Associates. I hope this works! Shivgi291025 (talk) 01:52, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::WP:GNG ↗ sources is what you need to show in the afd. They ''usually'' lasts 7 days from start, but this can be extended. Credibility isn't ''exactly'' the problem, GNG coverage is. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 03:48, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::Hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I understand! Currently, what would be the next steps though? Would it be waiting for the AFD to be closed and then I could continue or should I start curating the content in my own talk page first (for review - which is what I read from Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia ↗)
::::::::::::::::::::::As there isnt a deadline to the AFD Shivgi291025 (talk) 04:23, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::Nothing prevents you from trying again, you have declared your COI etc. If the article is deleted, you can start a new draft, work on it as long as you like and then submit it for review. More at WP:YFA ↗ and WP:BACKWARD ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:29, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::Unfortunately, the page got deleted.
::::::::::::::::::::::::I'd like to work on recreating it properly. Before I start, I have a few questions:
::::::::::::::::::::::::# Given the sources available, do you think HBA meets Wikipedia's notability standard at all, or would a new article face the same outcome? In my opinion, there may be some more independent articles, just that I would have to dig deeper and see if there are any journals etc.
::::::::::::::::::::::::# If yes, would you be willing to review a draft before I submit it?
::::::::::::::::::::::::# Is Articles for Creation (AfC) the right process for me to follow given my COI? I referred to the steps on Wikipedia:Article wizard ↗ that allows to create a draft
::::::::::::::::::::::::# What would the ideal source look like for establishing HBA's notability in your view?
::::::::::::::::::::::::Shivgi291025 (talk) 10:54, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::1. I don't know. It seems ''likely'' for a company of this size and age that WP:GNG ↗ sources exists, but most of what's come up so far seemed to me to have WP:TRADES ↗ and WP:PRSOURCE ↗ issues. This could be a consequence of HBA mainly doing a good job and not getting in trouble over the years.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::2. No. You can try WP:AFCHELP ↗.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::3. Yes, more text on this at WP:AFC ↗.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::4. Something like https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c1j5w5kgn50o ↗. It's in-depth about the org, not an interview with a rep, and clearly independent of org. I still think <ref>{{cite book |last1=Yee |first1=Roger |title=Hotel and Restaurant Design |date=2005 |publisher=Visual Reference Publications |isbn=978-1-58471-085-1 |url=https://www.google.se/books/edition/Hotel_and_Restaurant_Design/YCtTJqFQB_cC?hl=sv&gbpv=1&dq=%22Hirsch+Bedner+Associates%22&pg=PA212&printsec=frontcover |language=en}}</ref> ''helps'' towards WP:GNG ↗, but it's not enough by itself. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:35, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Hi, alright I understand the above points! Just one thing I don't quite understand - we had the Hirsch Bedner Associates page for more than a decade, and then when we made edits to it, it got deleted as suddenly WP editors saw that our page is suddenly actively making edits and we had too many promotional links?
::::::::::::::::::::::::::I am trying to understand as to why this sort of thing happened just now, and not when the page was active for many years (I also need to seek clarification to explain to my reporting manager)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::i would really appreciate your advice on this Shivgi291025 (talk) 03:17, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::WP:ARTICLEAGE ↗. Wikipedians only notice what they notice and feel like spending time on. Imperfect/bad stuff can last for years on this open wiki. One editor thought an afd was in order, and the editors who looked at that thought deletion was the way to go. Also, WP-rules like WP:N ↗ and WP:NORG ↗ has gradually gotten stricter over the years, and articles that was ok-ish earlier may not be anymore. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:34, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::If you decide to make a new draft, one place you can try asking for input is the talkpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:54, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
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Question from Ezekiel Sunday Effiom on Talk:Steve A. Cohen ↗ (15:45, 16 June 2026)

How do I start trading on this company --Ezekiel Sunday Effiom (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

:I think you're on the wrong website. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Kagwiria kaberia on Wikipedia:Contact us ↗ (13:04, 17 June 2026)

Bryson Munene is a young Kenyan entrepreneur, technology founder, and innovator known for building advanced digital and future-focused technology ecosystems across Africa.

Bryson Munene is the Founder and CEO of 911 Astropulse, a technology ecosystem focused on artificial intelligence, digital communication systems, and next-generation social platforms. Under this ecosystem, he developed Lumi, an AI companion designed to enhance intelligent interaction and communication, as well as Varanova, a modern social media platform that integrates communication, content sharing, and AI-driven experiences.

He is also the Founder and CEO of Kededro SpaceTech, a space technology and exploration company focused on advancing African participation in future aerospace innovation, space systems development, and long-term exploration technologies. The company reflects his long-term vision of positioning Africa as a meaningful contributor in global space advancement.

Bryson Munene is recognized for his ambition in combining artificial intelligence, social technology, and space exploration into interconnected innovation systems. His work focuses on building scalable technology ecosystems that aim to influence future digital communication, learning systems, and exploration technologies.

Through his projects, Bryson Munene continues to develop a growing ecosystem of innovation centered on AI, communication platforms, and future space technology, with a strong focus on long-term impact and African technological advancement.

He is regarded as a young founder working toward shaping the future of technology through creativity, persistence, and ecosystem-driven thinking.

— Written profile of Bryson Munene
Bryson Munene is a young Kenyan entrepreneur, technology founder, and innovator known for building advanced digital and future-focused technology ecosystems across Africa.

And no one has written his article for me to be editing --Kagwiria kaberia (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Kagwiria kaberia If you want to try to write an article about this person on WP, WP:YFA ↗ has guidance on that. Making an acceptable WP-article without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL ↗ can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Camnewtown (19:25, 19 June 2026)

Hello --Camnewtown (talk) 19:25, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hello. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from PawnJawn2 (16:39, 22 June 2026)

Hello! Thanks for being my mentor, I have a question about my article. I’m currently waiting to get the article published but that’s not the question. Do I have to have a certain length on my article? --PawnJawn2 (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

:@PawnJawn2 No, the length is fine. A very short article is called a WP:STUB ↗, but your draft is longer than that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:24, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Dufitimana on File talk:Reba McEntire (51936713933) (cropped).jpg ↗ (04:50, 26 June 2026)

Hello --Dufitimana (talk) 04:50, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hello. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:53, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Hirematviru (15:27, 27 June 2026)

:''Note: Hirematviru's mentor Cyberdog958 is away.''
Hi Mentor For the past several months I've been facing repeated accusations of having a conflict of interest (COI). I genuinely have no financial, personal or professional connection with any of the subjects I edit. Could you please guide me on how I can avoid these accusations? What kind of edits should I focus on and what practices would help demonstrate that I have no COI? I'm willing to follow your advice and improve my editing. I just want to contribute in line with Wikipedia's policies and avoid any misunderstandings --Hirematviru (talk) 15:27, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Hirematviru I can take a guess, scrolling your talkpage, but I'm not an admin so I can't see deleted articles/drafts. It seems you have uploaded pics of people as "own work". "Own work" in this context means "I took this picture myself with my own camera." And if you did that, it's fairly likely you know that person and so you have a COI. The other explanation is that you are calling something someone else created your "own work", and that's against the rules here and can get you blocked. The rule of thumb for uploading pics on Commons/Wikipedia is that almost every pic you see online is under copyright, and so you can't upload them. Take the time to read COM:THIRD ↗. WP and Commons takes copyright '''seriously''', pics, text, whatever.
:Other things that can make people think COI is WP:FLOWERY ↗ writing, and using a lot of WP:ABOUTSELF ↗ sources, this includes interviews with the subject, perhaps with WP:COPYPASTE ↗ thrown in. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:58, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::I am still not very familiar with all the Wikipedia guidelines. For example, I didn't even know about the Commons policy and I also don't know how to upload fair-use files properly. Because of that... I will make sure not to do anything in the future that goes against Wikipedia's rules. I also hope my account won't be blocked. I have seen that many users face a lot of difficulties after being blocked. I am here only to volunteer and contribute positively, not to create conflicts. If I make any mistakes, I am always willing to learn from them and follow the guidelines correctly. Hirematviru (talk) 16:02, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Hirematviru Fair-use on Commons is very easy: Commons '''accepts no fair use at all.''' Follow that rule, and you'll have no trouble on Commons.
:::Now, English Wikipedia ''does'' in some '''very limited''' situations accept a fair-use pic, '''if''' there is no "free" alternative. These pics are uploaded on en-WP, not Commons, and basically includes WP:LEADIMAGE ↗s for
:::*Filmposters or bookcovers, like Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↗.
:::*Dead people, like Don Shirley ↗.
:::*Fictional people like Quark (Star Trek) ↗.
:::Wikipedia is a learning-by-doing place, you will pick up on our strange rules and customs as time goes by. You may want to take a look at WP:BLP ↗ and Wikipedia:A picture of you ↗. Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:20, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::::I am totally understand now.. I will keep this in mind Hirematviru (talk) 16:24, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thanks for being my partner in Larries ↗ & other related articles! This was pretty early on in my Wikipedia journey, so I appreciate the support :) jolielover♥talk 15:44, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
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:Thank you! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:59, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:@Jolielover Backstory on the Larries article: Via a noticeboard or something I noticed that people was deleting Olivia Wilde ↗ from Harry Styles ↗. I checked the source, and as Wikipedian and fan of ''House ↗'' leapt to her defense. Then, in an idle moment, I google a little to get a hint on ''why'' this was happening. And boy, had I found a rabbit-hole. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::Haha, funny you found out through Wikipedia! I was just a Louis Tomlinson fan, and naturally heard about these theories, which led me down a rabbit hole as well. Funny in isolation, er, not so much 15+ years and many girlfriends later. jolielover♥talk 16:39, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Speaking of funny, I still get annoyed looking at the DYK. You'd just GA:d it, but nooooooo... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:57, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Aha, oh well :( jolielover♥talk 16:59, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Question from Duh.gloss (18:33, 28 June 2026)

Hi, I was going to edit an article that's wildly inaccurate, but per COI I didn't. So, I went to "Talk" at the top of the article to call out inaccuracies, but the article hasn't changed and no one has responded. What's the best way forward? --Duh.gloss (talk) 18:33, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Duh.gloss Welcome to Wikipedia! Fwiw, this is not unexpected around here. We have about 7.2 million articles and about 260 thousand active editors (meaning they did at least 5 edits in the last 30 days), so a lot of talkpages have no eyes on them.
:BUT there are ways to proceed. Try this: at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/United States and Canada task force ↗ and WP:BLPN ↗, post a message like:
:"Hello! I would like your help with some corrections at Talk:Bruce_Anderson_(American_football)#Corrections ↗, please."
:In WP-verse, this is known as WP:APPNOTE ↗. And btw, if you're interested in providing a better picture for the article, there is guidance on that at Wikipedia:A picture of you ↗. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
::This is great! Thanks so much Duh.gloss (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

The Huntsman (2026) ↗ moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to The Huntsman (2026) ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing as a live article at this time because '''it consists of machine-generated text''' and '''Even the remaining content after several passes of ref-citing is not fully supported.'''.
I have converted it to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. DMacks (talk) 05:00, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Question from Zakou salifou on Live television ↗ (07:15, 2 July 2026)

Bonjour comment allez-vous --Zakou salifou (talk) 07:15, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

:I'm fine, thank you. Since this is the English Wikipedia, please communicate in English. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:21, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Question from Sksisks (08:28, 3 July 2026)

How to make good looking articles with enough information and how to get as much information as possible for an article? --Sksisks (talk) 08:28, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

:And blocked. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:43, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

You're invited to the Mentorship noticeboard

Hi, Gråbergs Gråa Sång. You are cordially invited to the brand new Wikipedia:Mentorship noticeboard ↗. I get the impression sometimes that we mentors are each toiling in our own cubbyhole or hamster wheel, quietly answering mentee questions with little to no interaction with other mentors. I think we have a lot to share and learn from each other, and I know it will make me feel better just having the opportunity to interact with you and other mentors there, and I hope it will for you, too. Look forward to seeing you there! Mathglot (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2026 (UTC)