User Talk: Heteralocha
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Happy editing! Cheers, 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 <span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup> <span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup> 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 <span style="color: #666; ">20:42, 15 June 2026 (UTC)</span>
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:Alright, thanks for the notification! Heteralocha (talk)
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Hi. It's come to my attention that some of the edits you've been making, particularly those on synonymies, might be based on outdated or incomplete sources (this includes failure to make corrections in entries that were already outdated or erroneous). For two examples: (1) you added the following to the ''Aulacocheilus ↗'' article: "''Aulacochilus'' Chevrolat in Dejean, 1836 (''nomen nudum'')" - but this was never published by either Chevrolat or Dejean, and was not a ''nomen nudum'' - it was published instead as an unjustified emendation by Agassiz in 1846. (2) among the synonymies listed for ''Aplosonyx ↗'', was the entry "''Haplonyx'' Jacobson, 1896" - but this is not a synonym. The author who published this was also Agassiz, 1846, as another unjustified emendation, and Jacobson's use was a subsequent use of Agassiz' name, not a '''new''' name proposed by Jacobson. Also, Agassiz' name is a junior homonym of Schoenherr's weevil genus ''Haplonyx''. If you were using an authoritative source, you would presumably not have made the first error, and would have noticed and corrected the second one. What source(s) are you using? It may be that you are using sources that are not reliable, in which case you might not want to continue editing until you are able to find better sources. Dyanega (talk) 15:37, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
:Oh, ''that'' one. Yeah. Thanks for the note/corrections! No, I did not have a good source for ''those'' and had to default to iNaturalist/GBIF (on which the article was originally based). Usually I don't do that, but my main source here was Chûjô & Chûjô (1989), and they still have ''Aulacochilus''...
:''Aplosonyx'' - I didn't do the ''Haplonyx'' bit, that was done by user B33tleMania12 last year; all I added was the ''Berecyntha'' note (and I am not even sure if I got that right - like here, sources for ''nomina oblita'', for obvious reasons, are not easily found), but at least now users ''can'' get to either of the two genera this named).
:A bot created a lot of Erotylidae stubs and sourced them with ITIS, GBIF/EOL and bugguide.net, with little to no regard for systematic consistency, and for genera with presence within and outside the US grossly misleading species counts. And the latter is what I am fixing first and foremost, because undercounting species is a more serious error than misattributed synonymies.
:I am presently using some of the newer peer-reviewed papers (mostly Paul Skelley's work) to make the erotylid articles at least internally consistent with each other, but for many genera (SE Asian monotypics especially) there simply isn't much since Chûjô & Chûjô or Leschen & Węgrzynowicz. For any non-Erotylidae that were once placed in the family, or have homonymies with erotylids, I am only dealing with whatever specific name is affected and don't check the rest of the synonymies (as the refs I have at hand are all about erotylids).
:Also, I didn't pay that much attention to the synonymies (mostly I just make the redirects, because the bot that created the articles did not do that), because my first priority is to get the species lists right, which are usually still based on ITIS and given as authoritative, but they're usually far from that. But I do have Skelley's "Nomenclatural Notes" paper, and Bousquet & Bouchard on the Dejean collection, and some others on generic nomenclature in the pipeline, and wil lget to the genus names eventually. Right now, however, my priority is to remove patent nonsense like ''Loberus'' having 16 species (actually >40), or ''Tritoma'' having 23 (actually >100)... And in the absence of recent genus-level reviews, one sometimes has to go back to sources which are less-than-reliable as regards nomenclature.
:I have noted already that there are some bad screw-ups in erotylid nomenclature (''Ischyrus'' is actually what got me started with this family); I'll pay extra attention to it now, and if I note anything fishy I'll look for a more up-to-date source. Heteralocha (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks for clarifying things. I also apologize for not having looked at your user page, and instead assuming you were a new editor - you and I have had a fair number of previous exchanges. Oddly, just last week something happened where WP wouldn't recognize my password, though a PW reset let me back in. At any rate, feel free to tag me or PM me in case you have any particularly complex or sticky nomenclatural issues you're trying to tackle going forward. Dyanega (talk) 20:13, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
:::Will do, thanks for the heads-up! Heteralocha (talk) 20:20, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
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