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Please clarify if you have used any AI tools such as ChatGPT in the process of your editing. Please note that doing so is generally not allowed ↗. Fermiboson (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

:Hi Fermiboson, thank you for your message. I am happy to clarify the process of my editing. All the content has been sourced, reviewed, verified, and adapted by me in accordance with Wikipedia’s sourcing and neutrality guidelines. I may have used an AI tool to help verify my grammar and syntax for certain sentences, as well as a neutrality checker. I take full responsibility for the edits. Kaspar-trout (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
::It appears that your use as described is in violation of policy ↗ and therefore I would appreciate if you could cease your use of AI tools in editing and use your own words instead. Typos and grammar mistakes are easily fixable while AI induced errors are not. (Also, there is no "may have used", either you have used or you haven't.) Fermiboson (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

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:Hello @DiannaaDiannaa. Thank you for checking out and help me improving this article. I wrote a new version and found more referenecs as well. You'll let me know. Thank you Kaspar-trout (talk) 19:23, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
::The new version looks okay. Thanks for taking the time to do that. — Diannaa&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(talk) 22:19, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Benlee ↗ moved to draftspace



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When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. <span style="font-family:times new roman"><span style="background-color:purple; color: #7FFFD4">~ŤheŴubṂachine</span>-<span style="color:#339966">840</span><span style="color:red">≈</span></span> ● <small>'''<span style="color:#339966;font-family:times new roman">✒️</span> ↗'''</small> 10:08, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

:Absolutely. Thank you Kaspar-trout (talk) 11:40, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

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:@Mariamnei Thank you for your comment and your help. I'm collecting a long list of sources to be added today. Kaspar-trout (talk) 12:40, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

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:@MCE89 Thank you for helping. I'll rephrase. Kaspar-trout (talk) 13:05, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Green Blue Deal for the Middle East ↗ (June 8)


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:Thank you @Ohnoitsjamie I suggest that the entire section then should be deleted, as it's almost impossible tou source within WP standards. What do you think? Kaspar-trout (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
:: I was reluctant to do that at first because it seemed like there ''should'' be a source out there somewhere that wasn't a promoted product guide, but on second thought I decided that weighted training gloves are not really boxing gloves in the first place, and more of a general fitness device, so I removed it as off-topic. OhNo<span style="color: var(--color-progressive, #36c);">itsJamie</span> <sup><b style="color: var(--color-progressive, #F00);">talk</b></sup> 23:38, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Agreed Kaspar-trout (talk) 05:42, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

George Kadish ↗



Hi, your edit here ↗ caught my attention because of a reference with the title "Making sure you're not a bot". Now I've looked at it in more detail, I notice you there is a sentences you added that is uncomfortably close to the source material. I see also that you have been warned about copyright violation before on multiple occasions.

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{{quote|Titled "Pictures of the Ghetto", the exhibition was shown as early as summer 1945 and displayed in makeshift venues in Displaced Persons (DP) camps in Landsberg and Feldafing, as well as in Munich.}}

Your text, my emphasis

{{quote|'''As early as summer 1945''', Kadish used his photographs in his traveling exhibition ''Pictures of the Ghetto'' '''displayed in makeshift venues in Displaced Persons (DP) camps in Landsberg and Feldafing, as well as in Munich'''}}

I advise you to stop doing this. It would be also nice if you could find other instances where you've done this and sort that out, because I really don't want to have to go to every edit you've made and see if they're copyvios or not.

Morwen (talk) 14:11, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hi @Morwen, yes you're right. There shouldn't be more. I remember that edit because I was trying to compress several details into one sentence and a part of it remained unchanged, but that is not an excuse. I’ll rewrite it now. Also, I see that the reference title also clearly captured the wrong page. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Kaspar-trout (talk) 14:44, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks! Morwen (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

There is at least one other one I have spotted, by the way. Morwen (talk) 15:15, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

:I'll go through them Kaspar-trout (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

From Our Latin Thing ↗:

quote from: https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/book-extracts/read-an-extract-from-made-in-nuyorico-fania-records-lain-music-salsa-s-nuyorican-meanings

{{quote|The New York Times review described them as “blocks where the city sanitation sweepers seem never to have visited”. Indeed, the mise-en-scène underscores the deteriorating economic conditions at the end of the 1960s and in the early 1970s, a period marked by the serial displacement of Puerto Rican residents, increasing unemployment, and disinvestment in Black and Puerto Rican neighbourhoods throughout the city. The opening scene also summons memories of the Young Lords garbage offensive in 1969 in East Harlem.}}

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{{quote|Critics have read these street sequences in relation to the <strong>deteriorating economic conditions</strong> of the period, including <strong>displacement, unemployment, and disinvestment in Black and Puerto Rican neighborhoods</strong>, and has linked <strong>the opening</strong> street <strong>scene</strong> to <strong>memories of the Young Lords’ 1969 “Garbage Offensive” in East Harlem.</strong>}}

Morwen (talk) 11:08, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

:I could rewrite like this: Critics noted the film’s urban setting situates the film within the social and economic context of New York City in the late 1960s and early 1970s, when many neighbourhoods faced '''disinvestment, unemployment''', poor municipal services, and eventually '''displacement'''. '''The opening scene''' has been interpreted as evoking the '''Young Lords ↗’ 1969 garbage offensive ↗ in East Harlem ↗''', a protest against unequal sanitation conditions. Kaspar-trout (talk) 11:44, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

::Personally I think that's still too close a paraphrase. The aim here is not to take a quote and then slowly permute it word by word until it is sufficiently different. If I were you I would identify all the places I have done this and remove the copyvio. I wouldn't even worry about replacing it for now. Morwen (talk) 11:49, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Morwen thank you for your help (and friendly tone). i appreciate it. I'd like to replace this paragraph though. maybe the Young Lords' garbage offensive isn't necessary. I think it could be cut as it is interpretative anyways Kaspar-trout (talk) 12:37, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
::::It must be removed now. You can replace it at your leisure afterwards. Morwen (talk) 12:39, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mendel_Grossman&diff=prev&oldid=1359477788 ↗

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{{quote|Grossman had taken steps while still in the ghetto to ensure that his photographs would be preserved by frequently distributing them among his friends who hid them (Arieh Ben-Menachem thus retained 417 prints) and hiding them before his deportation in October 1944 (he had been part of the “cleanup commando” after the liquidation of the ghetto).

Grossman’s friend, the designer Pinchas Shaar, said the photographer stashed thousands of negatives, hundreds of prints, his Leica camera and jewelry entrusted to him by relatives, in two big clay jars and buried them in opposite walls of an abandoned bunker. Ben-Menahem gives a somewhat different account, writing that Grossman packed his archive in tin cans inside a wooden crate, “with the help of a friend he took out a window sill in his apartment, removed some bricks, placed the crate in the hollow, then replaced the sill.” The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., says the prints were hidden in the apartment and in a cellar.

After the war, part of the archive was recovered by Shaar and Grossman’s sister Rozsa, and taken to Israel where many disappeared during the Arab-Israeli war of 1948 ↗.}}

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{{quote|'''Before his deportation''' in October 1944, Grossman attempted to preserve his photographic archive by '''distributing prints among friends''' and hiding negatives and prints in the ghetto. One of them, Arieh Ben-Menachem later '''retained 417''' of Grossman’s prints. Accounts differ on how the remaining archive was hidden: Pinchas Shaar recalled that Grossman placed negatives, '''prints and his Leica camera entrusted to him <s>by relatives</s> in two <s>big</s> clay jars <s>and</s> buried <s>them in opposite walls of an abandoned</s> in an abandoned bunker''', while Ben-Menachem wrote that the material was '''packed in tin'''<s>can</s>s '''inside a wooden crate''' and concealed behind a window sill in Grossman’s apartment. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ↗ describes the photographs as having been hidden in the apartment and in a cellar. After the war, part of the archive was recovered by Shaar and Grossman’s sister Rozsa, and taken to Israel '''where many disappeared during the Arab-Israeli war of 1948 ↗.'''}}
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wikis as sources


Hi again, I thought I'd check back to see how you're getting on with removing the sort of thing I highlighted earlier and I'm afraid I've seen some additional concerning edits - specifically that https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al_Weill&diff=prev&oldid=1360583671 ↗ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charley_Goldman&diff=prev&oldid=1360511453 ↗ both add facts sourced to a wiki at boxrec.com. We usually can't use wikis as sources - see WP:USERGEN ↗. Morwen (talk) 15:02, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

:Hi again, sorry for the delay. If I understood properly, your concern is about the nature of the two BoxRec sources, right? I had the same doubt, but I noticed that BoxRec is cited on many boxing-related pages because sources are not always straightforward in this field, especially for figures who were not major headline names. My understanding was that BoxRec could at least support basic factual information such as fight records or professional activity. That said, I can either remove those references or keep them only where they support simple record-based facts, while trying to replace them with more appropriate secondary sources where possible. Kaspar-trout (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::A wiki is usually WP:USERGEN ↗. With boxrec in particular it possible to see here ↗ that it has at least a couple of dozen of active users, which i would say puts it beyond any possible argument that it could be treated as an expert source. There may be existing references to it and these should be removed - I've added it to my backlot to investigate. Morwen (talk) 01:35, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
:::Yes, agreed. I tried to remove the BoxRec sources I had previously used. i'll make a new pass and see if there's some more to be replaced. I'll do that next on my list. Thank you Kaspar-trout (talk) 08:53, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::::@Morwen typically on this page, Monte Attell ( Monte Attell#cite ref-BoxRec 7-0 ↗ ) BoxRec is cited a number of times, mainly to support boxing records. I haven't sourced this page but I know that some of these old sports results aren't findable on the internet other than through the BoxRec database. My question is, if BR isn't an expert source (which I agree in principle) then how do we support these claims if no other sources are available? Kaspar-trout (talk) 10:49, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::::if no reliable source can be found that supports material then the material should be removed. Note that offline sources are perfectly allowable in Wikipedia. Morwen (talk) 12:08, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::I've now had time to look at the reference on Monte Atell and it's a link to an entirely different part of the website. It's the wiki part of the website I was saying should be avoided. It's not clear to me how reliable the other part of the site is. Morwen (talk) 15:08, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
::::::I'll let these sources in place for now. I'll try to spot the wiki part of the website on WP boxing pages and replace them when possible or maybe take them out. Kaspar-trout (talk) 19:46, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

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