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Copyright issues, unblock, etc

Previous discussion at Special:Diff/1294123881 ↗.

@Peachy1621, this is my understanding of your story at present. Can you confirm this?

Peachy1621 is your first account, created 7 September 2023

you also edited as {{np|Vasily1926}}

you also created {{np|Frenchman1953}}, an account which you shared with {{np|Movaigonel}}

Movaigonel (created 13 August 2022) also created {{np|Slemaniye}}, {{np|ArmoGaren}}, and {{np|AmanAmanAmaTurq}}

you know Movaigonel personally

Some other questions, which will be helpful context and save me a lot of digging time if you can answer them:

are you also editing together on other wikis? like the one you copied the infobox from?

are you familiar with {{np|Friedrch2}} and {{np|Samuel Khuspov}}/{{np|Tufffffff}} and/or their socks?

how about {{np|Armenian from Artsakh}} or {{np|JR H44}}?

do you know {{np|Shnorakalutsyun}}, {{np|Amniweb}}, {{np|Fr4you}} to be socks of Movaigonel?

are there any other accounts we're missing?

Sorry, I know that's quite a lot. But if we can clear this up, we can find you a route back to editing in good standing. You may need to take the standard offer ↗ to get there, but we'll have to clear this up in any case, and "six months" is a lot sooner than "never". -- asilvering (talk) 19:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:1. Yes, Peachy1621 is my first account, and it was created on 05:28, on September 7, of 2023.
:2. Yes, I ban evaded using Vasily1926. Also, I just remembered, I did make another account called "Boarduser91". I remember briefly fixing some grammatical error or info error on a draft page for some article. I actually forgot the password to that account and couldn't recover it.
:3. Yes, I did, and I came in contact with Movaigonel, who shared the account with me later.
:4. I don't know if Movaigonel created Slemaniye. However, I can literally ask him (I have contact with him on Discord. I will do that, I can confirm all of this). But, I am positive that AmanAmanAmaTurq is Movaigonel. ArmoGaren is a random person, who I assumed saw the revision deleted by Yamla, remembered the old one, created an account, and tried to restore it. I don't know who that is, or whether he has anything in relation to Movaigonel.
:5. Yes, I have contact with him on Discord. I do not know him in person but I know him across some platforms.
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:1. No. I've only done this on Wikikpedia, and only on the English version. If it helps, I do use Armenian Wikipedia too.
:2. No, but I have seen Sam and Tuff from somewhere. I remember seeing them in some deleted page's revisions I think. I don't know who they are or who really owns them.
:3. I do not know Armenian from Artsakh, but his level of English contribution seems to be similar to Fr4you's. Look at Fr4's talk page, here is an excerpt: "You event don’t respect the second rule, i put my argument and you didn’t respond, you always remove my request for deletion, we can debating here". I do not know JR either, but the Draft:Battle of Karamaryan (1918) ↗ page is something Movaigonel also had interest in, as evidenced through his talk page. To me, that hints to a synthesis between the two.
:4. Shnorakalutsyun must be a SP of Mova. It means "thank you" in Armenian, and, another account of Mova, AmanAmanAmaTurq (yes, the third Aman is spelled without an N) is also spelled in Armenian, which, the name is typically used as an insult against Turks.
:5. You guys should keep an eye on User:AlbertLT. I know some stuff about him that I don't know if I'm allowed to say (his ethnicity—look at his contributions—go ahead and make a wild guess). He has, as far as I know, edited, and even created some pages that Mova and I personally talked about, like Battle of Sadakhlo ↗ and Battle of Ayrum ↗. I'm not saying he's Movaigonel, but it looks suspicious. Armenian from Artsakh made the Template:Campaignbox Armenian national movement (1862-1921) ↗, which later included the battles of Sadakhlo and Ayrum, which, as mentioned earlier, AlbertLT created. Peachy1621 (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::If Mova would also like to return to editing at some point, I'd recommend that he log back in to that account and corroborate the story from there. He's going to have a harder time of unblocking, looks like, since I see a lot of WP:AE ↗ stuff in here and he's surely hit WP:3X ↗ by now, but a helpful statement at this point would probably help. -- asilvering (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Do you want me to tell him? Because he did express a lot of sentiment toward coming back and editing. That's why we shared the Frenchman account; he edited there. Peachy1621 (talk) 20:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::::Please do. I can't promise it will be ''easy'', or that it will be quick, and a lot depends on any blocked editor's self-presentation and willingness to change their previous behaviour. But I ''can'' promise that there's always a way forward for a blocked/banned editor willing to take it. Unless you're Foundation-banned, which neither of you are, and which is very rare indeed. -- asilvering (talk) 20:19, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::@Peachy1621, I just want to say, digging through this kind of thing requires a high level of "being awake", and I am a person who is very often asleep. You're free to send me a ping if I appear to have forgotten about you. I probably haven't, but I'd hate to, and I don't mind the reminder. -- asilvering (talk) 23:28, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|asilvering}} That's okay, take your time. And I typically sleep after midnight and wake in the noon lol, I'm no guest to that. Anyway, I notified Mova on Discord, and he's not responding. I just wanna let you know that I did. P.S. does this count as an edit? Hopefully it doesn't mess with my standard offer wait time. Peachy1621 (talk) 04:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Edits to this page are fine, don't worry about that. -- asilvering (talk) 22:44, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
::Is there something wrong with me??? AlbertLT (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:::@AlbertLT, if there is, an admin will ask you about it directly. Don't worry about it. -- asilvering (talk) 21:54, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::::okak AlbertLT (talk) 21:56, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Asilvering}} Following up on my earlier note, I just found some additional information relevant to the account User:AlbertLT.
:::::Like I said (but just to remind you), Albert has revived and edited Battle of Ayrum ↗ and other pages that were previously deleted and later recreated/edited by sockpuppets. Additionally, on many occasions of Battle of Ayrum being recreated, its page included text that was copied and pasted from the Military Wiki.
:::::However, the reason why I revived this old discussion is because I managed to find his TikTok profile in a comment section. How do I know it's him? Well, first off, with his name, which included extremist and far-right symbols, along with Armenian and Ukrainian flags. And the cherry on top was the inclusion of his Wikipedia username, which spelled out Albert in Armenian script. Now, I wanted to check his user contributions to see if there was even more of a connection, and there was. I found a contribution to the page, Armenian Legion (Ukraine) ↗ (which has been moved, thus, check the revision I linked below). He also edited the Armenian Legion ↗ page, a page about a legion of Armenian soldiers created in Nazi Germany's army during World War II, which connects us to his TikTok username, full of extremist symbols.
:::::Now, I am not sure if personal beliefs like his are allowed on here, but I know that non-neutrality is banned, along with racist behavior and promoting extremist behavior. I don't know if Albert has done any of those actions on Wikipedia, though. However, I believe that now, with all of this information presented in front of us, he should have an eye kept on him. I'm not sure whether he knows that we can see his display of extremist symbols on his '''publicly viewable profile'''.
:::::Notable contribs (that connect him to his off-wiki account): a. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Legion_(Ukraine)&oldid=1283487166 b. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Legion&oldid=1267272444 Peachy1621 (talk) 03:53, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see Yamla has already got to this, but to add: if you have off-wiki evidence that clearly links a current wikipedia account to a blocked/banned editor, please email that to checkuser-en-wpwikipedia.org. As for the rest, extremism of any kind is rarely compatible with Wikipedia editing, but in general, unless someone is actually disrupting Wikipedia, we don't really care who they are either way. If you think someone is stealthily POV-pushing something horrible (say, systematically downplaying evidence of Nazi war crimes) and you have related off-wiki evidence and think it is really quite serious and urgent, ie that it is dangerous to the encyclopedia in general, you should be contacting Arbcom with your case. If you have very clear evidence of POV-pushing on-wiki, sure, we can do something about that (but please be ''sure'' you've got very clear evidence). If it's more a general "I think this person is lowkey misbehaving on Wikipedia and I don't like it, and my off-wiki evidence makes me like it less", my honest advice is, for now, to keep your mouth shut about it. You're trying to get ''out'' of a block, not dig yourself deeper into a WP:BATTLEGROUND ↗-shaped hole. -- asilvering (talk) 20:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:Okay, one thing to clear up that's pretty simple: when you copied from https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/War_over_Mountainous_Armenia ↗, you violated the licensing agreement of that wiki. Are you familiar with what Creative Commons ↗ is? The CC-BY-SA license on the fandom.com article does not allow you to copy directly ''unless'' you credit that source and its editors specifically, but if you do, it's fine. So your edit ''itself'' was fine, but what you needed to do was write an edit summary like "content in this edit is copied from https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/War_over_Mountainous_Armenia see that page's history for attribution". That's it - that would be totally kosher. It looks like you ran into extra issues because the multiple+shared accounts stuff already wore through responding admins' patience. -- asilvering (talk) 22:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|asilvering}} So the severity of the block I got—the permanent one—was solely because of the lack of attribution? The edit I was blocked for was me adding an infobox containing numbers and names related to the war that article was about. Since those are factual details, I didn't alter them (you can't) and simply included them for clarity. I didn’t realize that even copying such factual info without attribution could cause a block. Could you please confirm if the block was because of the infobox itself, the text I put in the edit (which I carefully paraphrased) along with the infobox, or the contents of the infobox? Peachy1621 (talk) 03:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
:::Honestly I think if it had been nearly any other topic area you probably would have simply gotten a slap on the wrist, but we're on a bit of a hairtrigger with WP:CTOP ↗s, especially Armenia-Azerbaijan, and you appeared to be yet another incarnation of someone who had already been sockpuppeting for nearly a year. At least one of the articles created by that editor had been deleted and recreated ''five times''. @Yamla, @331dot, I'm not sure if there's something I'm missing here? -- asilvering (talk) 04:34, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
::::I think that covers it. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
:Okay, I've had a look through your edits on this account and Vasily, and I didn't find anything that's a barrier to returning or that would necessitate any topic bans. Which, by the way, is not exactly common, and speaks very well of you. In the future, please be sure to view content from places like military-history.fandom.com skeptically, and always verify the sources yourself if you're going to copy any of it over (with attribution!). Often, content on those wikis comes from Wikipedia originally, and has been removed because it didn't meet our guidelines for one reason or another. Or it's hopelessly partisan, which obviously we try to avoid. I would also suggest that in future editing you always a) use an edit summary, even for edits you don't think really need "explanation", just to describe what they were, and b) add sources in the edit where you add the text itself. -- asilvering (talk) 16:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the review and the advice. Should I be unblocked, I'll be more careful with sources and summaries. Peachy1621 (talk) 21:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
:I see you say that you use Armenian Wikipedia as well, but I don't see any edits from Vasily on that wiki, and not much from Peachy. Do you use a different account for editing there, or just the Peachy one? -- asilvering (talk) 19:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
::@asilvering Just Peachy. And that was me wanting to edit, since I was really bored. Peachy1621 (talk) 21:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

'''Oppose unblock''' This account is one of the at least 39 socks of :commons:user:Crimea Republic ↗. A local CheckUser or Steward view the technical evidence at https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons/Crimea_Republic. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

:Ah, I see Boarduser91 is also in that list, actually, so when I mentioned Frenchman1953 as the connection, that wasn't quite right. @Peachy1621, {{np|Crimea Republic}} is globally locked, which presents some additional issues. Are the accounts at :commons:Category:Sockpuppets of Crimea Republic ↗ yours? -- asilvering (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

::@asilvering @The Squirrel Conspiracy Well, first of all, thanks for showing me that list. Second, I honestly '''do not''' recognize any of the accounts mentioned there (besides Frenchman1953, Boarduser91, and this account). However, I'm sure you guys are aware that Frenchman1953 and Boarduser91 are indeed my sockpuppet accounts. I want to clarify that these accounts are or were solely operated by me, and aren't connected to any other user or group, with the exception of Frenchman1953, which was used by me and Movaigonel, another blocked editor. But seriously, how on earth am I connected to this user, "Crimea Republic"? By IP? I've genuinely never even heard of this guy before. I have zero association with them or any of their socks. I'm really confused about how they made that connection. Could someone explain what's going on here? Because from my side, it just doesn't add up. Thanks. Peachy1621 (talk) 02:49, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

:::It's possible that they were connected via Frenchman1953. Since multiple people used that account, technical data associated with that one could have linked it to accounts you never created. If Movaigonel shared accounts with more people than just you, a bunch of different people could plausibly all be technically confirmed as a single person. A good reason not to share accounts! I'm not a Commons admin so I don't have the tools to establish whether your two accounts are also behaviourally linked to the others in that group, and that's about all I can say there. In any event, provided that henceforth you only edit from ''this'' account, the standard offer would be open to you regardless of how many sockpuppets you had in the past or where.

:::However, Crimea Republic is also globally locked. Since you ''are'' confirmed as technically connected to that one, that does make this lock evasion, and at any moment someone could refer your Peachy1621 account for a global lock. Which would be annoying. And you won't be able to edit here, even if unblock, if there's a global lock on your account. So you're going to have to appeal your Commons block at some point. You can't usefully do that ''right now'', because you've got a Commons admin in this thread who's already opposed, but provided you don't evade your Commons blocks, you'll be able to appeal it eventually. @The Squirrel Conspiracy, does commons have something like en-wiki's WP:SO ↗? -- asilvering (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

::::@asilvering That actually makes a lot of sense, thanks. I hadn't known that shared use of Frenchman could've caused this kind of cross-linking, especially if Movaigonel may have used it with other people too (though I personally was only aware of it being shared between me and Mova). That being said, I'm wondering what my realistic options are now. Is The Squirrel Conspiracy likely to be permanently opposed to any future appeal I make? And more importantly, how do I prove I'm not connected to Crimea Republic, if the technical evidence already says otherwise? How exactly do I navigate myself out of this? I'm assuming just good behavior on Wikipedia for a while will solve it? Peachy1621 (talk) 04:04, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

:::::Sorry for the much-belated response, @Peachy1621. I was hoping for a response from TSC here would remind me about this thread. (fwiw, I'm counting the standard offer ↗ timer from 5 June, so delays at this point only "matter" insofar as they're personally annoying; I'm also inclined to cut the SO short in your case because I think we jerked you around with the initial blocks.) I asked some Commons admins and the truth is, I'm not sure; it seems that Commons doesn't have a "standard" way forward for ex-sockmasters. I think the way forward here is, as you say, good behaviour here: that you get unblocked on en-wiki, edit here for a while to demonstrate that you're a constructive editor acting in good faith, and then appeal the Commons block with that history as your evidence that you aren't the person they think you are (or that, at least, if you ''are'' that person, you've reformed). If you get globally locked on this account, you'll have to request unblock via WP:UTRS ↗. -- asilvering (talk) 00:31, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|asilvering}} Sounds good! Peachy1621 (talk) 04:17, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|asilvering}} I'm reaching out as it has now been quite a while since our last discussion in August of last year. I took the time off Wikipedia to cool off and reflect. Most of my time away was spent looking through NPOV and proper attribution. I am eager to return to constructive editing. Given that the SO period has concluded, would you be willing to consider an unblock? I'm committed to being a collaborative and low-drama editor from here on out. Peachy1621 (talk) 22:26, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

:::::::Looks like we're good to go here. I'll unblock, with a one-account restriction - that means you can only use ''this'' account, no others, for any purpose, including ones that would normally fall under WP:LEGITSOCK ↗. Welcome back. -- asilvering (talk) 17:40, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

::::::::Thank you so much. I appreciate how much time and effort you put into my case; I know it wasn't a simple one. I'm glad to be back and I will stay committed to the one-account rule. I'm looking forward to proving your trust in me wasn't misplaced. Peachy1621 (talk) 20:58, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

::::::::{{ping|Asilvering}} i would like to note that this ip i edit under, 204.108.112.0/20, is also blocked. it expires in june, and i believe it's blocked due to people using it to vandalize. since this is the main ip i edit under, may it be unblocked as well? frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 20:20, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

:::::::::I've disabled the global block that was overriding our local one, which was set to anon-only. You should be able to edit from that IP range now, though you may need to clear your browsing data. In solidarity ↗, asilvering (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

::::::::::{{ping|Asilvering}} i'm honestly not sure how to appeal my commons block. i don't have access to my talk page there and i'm not sure if there's any email i can send an appeal to. i sent an email to what seems to be a wrong one, and was told to email a checkuser or administrator, but it seems i'm not able to do that either. is there anything i can do about the commons block? frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 21:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

:::::::::::Did you email info-commons? In solidarity ↗, asilvering (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

::::::::::::{{ping|Asilvering}} info-commons@wikimedia.org was emailed.

::::::::::::{{tquote|You need to contact a checkuser or an administrator, not us. This mailbox does not handle unblock requests.}}

::::::::::::p.s. should i keep pinging you or do you check these anyway? frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 23:14, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Sigh. @AntiCompositeNumber, sorry for the ping, any chance you can sort this one out? In solidarity ↗, asilvering (talk) 04:19, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

In relation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Abkhazia/Members

Can you {{Courtesy ping|Peachy1621}} add yourself as a member here ↗? I'm asking this since you already have "User WikiProject Abkhazia" on your profile. Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 22:26, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
: hi ‪Lothengrun de Spigel, i thought i was already there, but that must've been wikiproject armenia. sure. frankie 🍑 23:55, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
:: Thank you {{Courtesy ping|Peachy1621}} for your continued contributions, I would especially appreciate more assistance with the Kodori ↗ article. If you have the time, of course! Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 22:26, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::that article seems about done though frankie 🍑 23:14, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::: Ehh, I think there are more dots that need to be connected, since as you know the event took place simultaneously as the Afghanistan war ↗, and the Chechen war ↗. We have to consider also, the Pankisi Gorge ↗, which was used as a staging ground (for Chechen fighters) AND generally a drug trafficking hub. Alas, as you can see there is more to be done! I would appreciate your help with connecting those dots, and of course I will assist as best I can. Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::i did some tinkering in the infobox, i might look through some unomig reports to see what this crisis even ''was'', as i dont know much about it. frankie★ 07:14, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::Well, you do that! I would appreciate the help. Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 14:18, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Hey {{Courtesy ping|Peachy1621}} I have some data integration work, if you are interested (though it falls outside your normal contributions) United States intervention in Somalia ↗ needs an update in relation to 2026 events (in particular) from this official AFRICOM website "https://www.africom.mil/2026-strikes", I think that, rather than having a day by day explanation of events why not have a sum up of strikes conducted by US forces against ISIS-Somalia and Al-Shabaab. However, if you want to maintain the day by day narrative by all means do so. Anyhow I would really appreciate your help! Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 17:07, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
::::::::hi LDS, i am currently unable to work on that (and on a wider note, most things) due to some technical restrictions. when i am able to help, i will. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 17:49, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah don't worry about it Frankie, no rush! Hopefully the technical restrictions will be lifted soon! Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 21:19, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::Hey {{Reply|Peachy1621}}, I see that you are back! Good to see your continued contributions. Lothengrun de Spigel (talk) 01:07, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::i still have some stuff to deal with but i might be able to help soon frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 21:57, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

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Armenian-Soviet conflict

Hey, could you please make an article about the liberation of Goris in 1920 Against the Soviet army? And could you make my article more popular Defense of Zangezur (1920) ↗ ~2026-32746-10 ↗ (talk) 10:10, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

:for now, you are better off just adding content to the Battle for Zangezur (1920–1921) ↗ page as the background. i'll work to add more sources to it. again, i'll merge the defense of Zangezur page into it, as it refers to the same exact conflict. and you might want to take a look at this ↗ section. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 16:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::I just ask to make separate articles like the liberation of Goris (1920) ↗, the battle of Kapan ↗ in 1920 and a series of battles in 1920. You can also make one about the First Battle of Yerevan in 1921, and one about Sevan-Gavar operation ↗ which also took place in 1921.
::It is even possible to make a story about the anti-Soviet uprising in Artsakh that took place during the February uprising. Where Artsakh had success in the first days, and then the Soviet army defeated Artsakh, but not Syunik. Zangezur held out until the end when Soviet Russia did not promise the Armenians about the annexation of Zangezur and there was a peaceful departure of Nzhdeh, or rather, Nzhdeh fled to Persia.I advise you to do this so that we can make such projects, for example, the defense of Zangezur (1920) ↗, make a separate article, since there are few articles about Armenians defeating the Bolsheviks and I would like to do something ~2026-32746-10 ↗ (talk) 19:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::i'm not sure if the goris or kapan battles are notable enough to have their own articles. you'd need to find several sources. i'll see about karabakh later. in regards to it, this ↗ source seems to have some info about it. the defense of zangezur in 1920 had been merged into the battle for zangezur, since they essentially refer to the same topic, and info from the defense of zangezur in 1920 is already in the Battle for Zangezur (1920–1921) ↗ page. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 21:42, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::The liberation of Goris and the battle of Kapan have an important part in Armenian history because if it had not happened, the Soviet authorities would have given these territories to Soviet Azerbaijan, I hope you understand.If it weren't for that, the article about the Battle for Zangezur (1920-1921) ↗ would mean nothing. ~2026-33127-86 ↗ (talk) 05:06, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::if you'd like, you can add the battle of kafan to the article. goris, however, is already there, and is not notable enough for its own page, it seems. i don't see many sources on it solely. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 06:30, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Bro, I understand you want everything to be good, but a separate article about these battles is the perfect idea. ~2026-33127-86 ↗ (talk) 06:41, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::if the battle is notable enough, go ahead and create an article. creating an article for every minor engagement is not something i typically do, unless each have strategic value of some sort. the battle of goris is already in Battle for Zangezur (1920-1921) ↗. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 20:41, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::If I create it, it will not be distributed because I do not have copyright. I previously created an article a year ago about the liberation of Goris in 1920 and it was simply not accepted.Since I added few links and I didn't have copyright and that's why I ask you about it ~2026-33562-90 ↗ (talk) 07:18, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::what? frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 01:07, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::If I create an article, it will be deleted because I don't have the copyright. ~2026-33837-49 ↗ (talk) 05:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::i'm not sure what you're saying. are you taking a page from the Military Wiki? and if you do not have the copyright, why not just write it from scratch? frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 05:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::Look, Wikipedia can simply delete an article due to the fact that there is no copyright, no matter how much I write, Wikipedia does not accept this ~2026-33837-49 ↗ (talk) 09:36, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

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How was this edit ↗ created? fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four ↗ (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

:i found a good source on the page's topic and i decided to expand the page with the content in the source. the edit itself might look odd, i'm sure. in pretty much all of my edits, i make use of the preview feature. so as opposed to making edits in small chunks, i typically work on a large section, keep previewing it until it looks good, then publish it. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 21:00, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
: {{ping|fifteen thousand two hundred twenty hour}} oh, i see what was in question now. yeah, the citation itself was LLM generated. i assume that was back when i didn't know LLM usage wasn't allowed on here. i didn't know how to cite a source back then, so i used an LLM to make it. and it seems you're wondering how the [cite] thing is generated -- as for that, i'm not exactly sure either, in my case, i used Gemini, so it's likely something with the model. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 22:01, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
::That would explain it, what all did you used to use Gemini for and for how long? fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four ↗ (talk) 23:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
:::i've used it to make citations and find synonyms for words. as for how long, i can't be sure, but likely around when i started editing after being unblocked, and probably a bit after the edit was made (the one you reverted). i'm not 100% on when exactly i found out LLM usage was banned, but i do remember having used it for quite some time to make citations and change up wording, whether that be to find synonyms or make an article's text read better. frankiethey/them (t • c ↗) 23:45, 23 June 2026 (UTC)